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2009/1/5-8 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:52313 Activity:kinda low
1/3     no hurry but do you know of:
        $ chsh
        Password:
        Enter the new value, or press return for the default
         Login Shell [/usr/local/bin/bash]: /bin/zsh
        failed: Insufficient access
        \_ Yes. For now, email root@csua if you'd like to change your shell.
           \_ oh i'm more interested in the how'd this happen/why, from a
              system analysis/no fault point of view.  was it the ldap?
              \_ Yeah, it's the LDAP. sudo'ing chsh worked last time I tried
                 which, admittedly, was a while ago. We may just move back to
                 passwd and put up LDAP w/ a passwd backend. --t
           \_ The underlying reason is that the way we 'sorry' people
              who need to have their account disabled is by changing
              their shell.  If you can change your own shell, you could
              connect to LDAP directly and change it to be un-sorried.
              So we need to figure out a way to fix that little
              loophole...  that's why changing shell is disabled.  As
              mentioned earlier, email root@csua for shell changes.
2009/1/5-8 [Finance/Investment] UID:52314 Activity:low
1/3     Need stock market tip. What is the historic normal for the
        first quarter of the year? Up, down, random, etc? I had a bunch
        of limit orders but there were very little movement in the second
        half of Q4, which was expected but disappointing considering that
        I make most of the money on big swings                  -week trader
        \_ http://www.moneychimp.com/features/monthly_returns.htm
           In general, the first part of the year is not so great,
           especially the first year of a new President's term. However,
           based on history 2008 should have been a great year and we know
           how that went. That's why past results don't guarantee future
           returns. Overall, the markets have been more stable and less
           volatile recently which has been making it harder to trade, but is
           better for the long-term outlook of the markets.
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              \_ Typo. Fixed.
2009/1/5-9 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:52315 Activity:kinda low
1/5     About half a block's worth of protesters just showed up at the Fed
        Bldg in SF demanding Israel out of Gaza. Not a bad showing, given
        the cold and the sprinkling rain. --erikred
        \_ They're too stupid to stay out of the rain.  Just like they're too
           stupid to understand what's going on in Gaza.
           \_ The rain works to their benefit.  "Anti-Israel protesters
              demonstrated outside Fed Bldg amid chilly rain" vs. "Anti-Israel
              protester demonstrated outside Fed Bldg in cozy sunny weather."
           \_ What is going on in Gaza that this war/bombing thing will solve?
              Evidently those rockets keep coming.  Should they just firebomb
              them all into oblivion?  They should have wiped them out back in
              the sixties.  Some of these guys will never accept the loss of
              lands to "the Zionist enemy" so they will always have these
              rockets etc.  Maybe they could come up with some sort of giant
              laser weapon to instantly blow away the source of a rocket
              rockets etc.
        \_ I really doubt Israel can defeat the Palestinian demographic
           birthrate bomb.  They should surrender now.
           \_ Israel won the 7 day war....  It's not how big the military,
              it's how good it is.
              \_ He's talking about then citizen birthrate.  See "those
                 scary brown people are going to outreproduce us!" for
                 more info.
                 \_ They already did.  It's not about whether they're scary,
                    but this is lowering everybody's standard of living.
                    It's happening all over the world.
                    \_ call it revenge for centures of economic oprression
                       and uncle toms.
                       \_ Yes let's sink the boat we're all in for revenge
                          against people who are dead.
                          Who gives a shit?  Have more kids, struggle like rats
                          to get that Black Friday sale item.
        \_ http://z.about.com/d/atheism/1/0/L/7/3/Chosen-People.jpg
        \_ http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/chosenness-and-its-enemies-13662
        \_ the one million plus people crammed into the west bank are going
           to overflow into Israel eventually.  might as well get used to it.
           I salute the military might of Israel but the math says they're
           screwed.
           \_ now you know why "no birth control" and "every
              sperm is sacred" are key tenets in fightin' faiths
           \_ The West Bank is not really that crowded, but Gaza sure as
              hell is.
2009/1/5-8 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:52316 Activity:nil
1/5     He's good enough, he's smart enough, and doggone it, people like him!
        \_ Well, the Sec of State likes him enough to steal the election.
           \_ I guess the Republican leaning election board liked him too.
           \_ Someone had to win. The error measurement of an election is
              greater than the difference of votes in these cases, so it is
              basically a toss-up.
2009/1/5-9 [Politics/Domestic, Computer/SW/Security] UID:52317 Activity:nil
1/5     http://indiacgny.org/php/showContent.php?linkid=200&partid=96&sub=sub2  IRONY
2009/1/5-8 [Politics/Domestic/California/Arnold, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:52318 Activity:kinda low
1/5     congrats, al franken.
        \_ Why are you congratulating him for theft?
           \_ welcome to the new government, when lawyers, not voters decide
              who rules.  I welcome our now obvious lawyer overlords.
              \_ New? You forget Bush vs. Gore.
              \_ They counted the votes according to state law. Franken had
                 more of them. The process was pretty transparent, especially
                 compared to FL in 2000.
           \_ You're 8 years too late to think that joke's gonna fly.
           \_ http://www.theonion.com/content/news/supreme_court_overturns_bush_v
2009/1/5-9 [Computer/SW] UID:52319 Activity:nil
1/5     What the hell happened to my good 'ol @cal (cal.berkeley.edu)
        account? I'm forced to create a totally new @calcafe account.
        What the hell?
2009/1/5-9 [Computer/SW/Apps/Media, Recreation/Music] UID:52320 Activity:nil
1/5     Norway is posting every Beatles song on the Internet:
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/8zyln9 [ars]
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