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2008/10/8-9 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Academia/GradSchool] UID:51424 Activity:kinda low
10/8    http://tinyurl.com/4pyc3o
        The difficulty with the evaluating the Chicago Challenge is that
        Chicago schools improved dramatically overall during this study. There
        were already vast improvements happening within Chicago Schools when
        the Annenberg Grant came through. It was difficult to tell what
        improvements were the result of the challenge and what improvements
        were the result of other improvements already in play. The Chicago
        Challenge failed only in our inability to reach conclusions based on
        the data. Chicago's schools faired far better than the other cities
        studied (including Gulliani's New York). The fact is that the
        Challenge very well could have improved all Chicago schools. We simply
        can't know this for certain based on the research.
        \_ Now how is this related to Obama having weekly dinners with
           a domestic terrorist?
           \_ Weekly? Is there a legitimate source for this?
           \_ You are so cute when you foam at the mouth.
2008/10/8-9 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:51425 Activity:nil 57%like:51426
10/8    Nikkei 225 getting fucked up the ass
        UK getting super fucked - oh wait, UK equity indices haven't yet caught
        up with this fact.  Don't worry.  They will.
        \_ Japanese schoolgirl anal.... sorry, what did you say again?
2008/10/8 [Uncategorized] UID:51426 Activity:nil 57%like:51425
10/8    Nikkei 225 getting fucked up the ass
        UK getting super fucked
2008/10/8 [Finance/Investment] UID:51427 Activity:nil 80%like:51429
10/8    Coordinated intl rate cuts
        In case anyone didn't see it yet, please see "Stock tip 3" from two
        days ago
        \_ I asked and he doesn't know what he's talking about. Now what?
           You didn't give a single advice.
           \_ well, my advice from two weeks ago was for the desired safe part
              of your portfolio to be out 33% at 11388.
2008/10/8-9 [Finance/Investment] UID:51428 Activity:nil
10/8    By the time the next president takes office, President George W. Bush
        may have earned the dubious honor of being the first president to see
        the Dow Jones Industrial Average fall, on a percentage basis, during
        his two terms of service, in almost 90 years.
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/4wzjws
        \) what's the point of saying "on a percentage basis"?
        \_ what's the point of saying "on a percentage basis"?
        \_ The Dow never fell before?
2008/10/8-9 [Finance/Investment, Finance/Banking] UID:51429 Activity:kinda low 80%like:51427
10/8    Coordinated intl rate cuts
        Ten year note up significantly even though equities down
          -> potential "game over" (or ass-raping) scenario
        In case anyone didn't see it yet, please see "Stock tip 3" from two
        days ago
        \_ I asked and he doesn't know what he's talking about. Now what?
           You didn't give a single advice.
           \_ well, my advice from 3 weeks ago was for the desired safe part
              of your portfolio to be out 33% at 11388.  I said back then that
              this market could shitnap at any time so it was time to sell the
              pop the next day.
              My advice in "Stock tip 3" is:  Don't go "all-in long" now in
              case you're thinking about it.
              Should you sell now, now that we're down to 9,270?  It's your
              call, but do your research and ask me a fundamentals question.
              At this point I won't tell you to sell (but I will tell you to
              "don't buy" index funds or the equivalent).
              Actually, I will say I would go 80% into safe money right the
              fuck now, but I'm not going to tell you to do that.  It's your
              money.
              \_ I think it's time to buy. The market has overreacted.
                 \_ dude, the tip is:  LEH CDS settlement in TWO FUCKING DAYS.
                    you don't hear this in mainstream news.  i haven't been
                    playing a game with you guys for the last three months.
                    \_ what is LEH CDS
                       \_ lehman credit default swap settlement
                          financial institutions (including insurance co.'s)
                          will need significant cash to pay off insurance on
                          Lehman debt and other securities as a result of LEH
                          bankruptcy.  these swaps are held around the world.
                          \_ oh i thought that all got sold to barclays
                             \_ only brokerage piece, because that has a whole
                                bunch of regular-investor money, I believe
                    \_ This is already priced in, imho.
                       \_ okay, I'm glad you're thinking though.  IMO you
                          stand a better chance than people who haven't done
                          enough research to confidently say that.
                          \_ do you think the solvent finance firms will ask
                             for a gov. loan to help cover the costs of buying
                             the former assets of Lehman at firesale prices?
                             that would be ironic.
                             \_ if no one objects, sure!  solvent financial
                                entities will be getting a whole lot of free
                                money. -op
                           \_ Well, I thought so last week and I was obviously
                              wrong. I am about 90% in right now and really
                              itching to go "all in" but the 10% that is still
                              out is my wife's IRA and she won't give the go
                              ahead. At some point I will start selling bonds
                              and buying stock, but I will probably wait until
                              Q1 for that. To clarify, I mean "all in" for the
                              65% of my capital that I risk in the equity
                              markets. I always keep about 6 months cash (that
                              works out to about 10%) 10% in US Bonds and 15%
                              in CA munis.
                              \_ marital bliss >> possible equity gain
                                 besides, you already are 90% in.  you'll be
                                 a hero if you can sell at a good price.
                                 a hero if you can sell at profit.
                                 \_ I am pretty sure that by the time I
                                    retire the stock market will be higher
                                    than it is today.
                                    \_ ^will be higher^return better than CD
                                       rates -op
                                       \_ Since the dividend yield on the SPY
                                          alone is equal to current CD
                                          alone is close to current CD
                                          rates, it is hard to imagine how
                                          I could go wrong. I guess all the
                                          companies in the S&P 500 could cut
                                          or eliminate dividends.
2008/10/8-9 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51430 Activity:kinda low
10/8    Meghan McCain is totally hot.  Can we keep her if Obama wins?
        \_ You can keep that picture you keep beating off on.  Isn't that
           enough?
           \_ You harshed my mellow dude.  tnx.
        \_ She looks just like her dad.  WHAT a turn-off!
        \_ I want some hot conservative slightly chubby sex.
2008/10/8-9 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51431 Activity:very high
10/8    So McCain just wants to buy people's mortgages?  And the government
        will eat the difference?  Thank you McCain, now not only can I not
        buy a house because of the stupid bubble, all the idiots who did
        buy a house and couldn't afford it will get a giant bonus from
        the government.  What the fuck?
        \_ If you need it in simple terms,
           http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/07/martin-feldstein-on-the-financial-crisis
        \_ Wow it's even worse.  He wants to buy them from the lenders
           who made totally irresposible loans AT FACE VALUE.  What the
           hell is this kind of maverickness?  Please tell me he is just
           desperatly trying to throw things at the wall and seeing what
           pandering sticks.  I mean at least that's just cynically treating
           our economy like a joke.  The only other option I can come up with
           is McCain has the economic sense of a retarded tapir.
           \_ And then he wants to renegotiate them down to current market
              value with the borrower, so that the government eats the loss
              for both the lender and the borrower. Can you say Moral Hazard?
              \_ Moral Hazard.
        \- mccains mortgage repo idea is from martin feldstein ... who may
           or may not be an evil fucker -- i am not sure --- but he certainly
           knows more about economics than you do, so trivial complaints
           like "moral hazard, moral hazard!" are silly, espcially when you
           dont know the full extent of the plan, which has to do with piggy-
           back/bridge loans which are not non-recourse loans. --psb
           \_ ok smart guy tell me why McCain's plan is not full of holes.
              though at the end of the day, we're both voting for Obama
              \- if you are interested in *martin feldstein* and glenn
                 hubbard's [?] plan, use google. in case you are interested,
                 MF is "clearly" in the first rank of economists. as for
                 GH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u2qRXb4xCU
           \_ You know what, this plan is actually the smartest thing I have
              heard from McCain yet. It is not enough to make me vote for him,
              but it reinforces my claim that both are very strong candidates
              and both would do a good job in the Oval Office.
              \_ You need to sign this so we can mock you for it. -aspo
              \_ maaaybe , but remember McCain chose Palin to be his VP,
                 and there's a 25 percent chance McCain will die, and Palin
                 does not have the gravitas to be VP.
                 \_ There's a 25% chance?  According to what?
                    \_ you know what?  72 year old dudes who have had cancer
                       5 times have a higher chance of dying than say...
                       YOU.  Palin comes off as shrill and unable to hold
                       a discussion that doesn't involve the talking points she
                       just learned from her campaign handlers.  I think Obama,
                       Biden, and even McCain occasionally say things that
                       they came up with ON THEIR OWN.  Palin just pisses me
                       off.  McCain choosing Palin pisses me off.
                       \_ Republicans cheer Palin with the same intensity
                          that you jeer Palin. Think about that.
                          \_ I know they do.  I don't really understand it.
                             Every statement she makes, makes me cringe.
                 \_ Palin would be no worse than Bush, most likely better,
                    since she is hopefully more aware of her own inadequacies.
                    \_ "she might be better than the worst president in
                       history" is not exactly an endorsement.  -tom
2008/10/8-9 [Uncategorized] UID:51432 Activity:nil
10/8    She said MAVERICK again.  make it stop make it stop make it stop
        \_ Val Kilmer was Iceman, Goose was the one who died and Maverick
           was Tom Cruise, right?
        \_ hopefully the use of that word will be deprecated after the
           electoral race is over.
2008/10/8-9 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus] UID:51433 Activity:nil
10/8    Fossil shows how turtles evolved their shells:
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/4dqlhk [new scientist]
2008/10/8-9 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51434 Activity:kinda low
10/8    Newsweek under fire for *not* Photoshopping Palin photo.
        link:www.yahoo.com/s/967288
        First, fashion magazines are frowned upon for Photoshopping pictures of
        supermodels.  Now a news magazine is frowned upon for not Photoshopping
        pictures of a political figure.  Go figure.
        \_ I don't understand the bitching.
           \_ The article's or the OP's?
        \_ An extreme close-up to the degree that you can see pores?  Compare
           that to the covers with Obama.
           \_ Desperation level infrared.
2008/10/8-9 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:51435 Activity:nil
10/08   Anyone notice ann increase in SPIM oflate?  I am recent Mac convert
        and I dont see an option in Adium to  only accept messages from those
        on my contact list. Any add-ons do this? Thanks
2008/10/8-9 [Uncategorized] UID:51436 Activity:nil
10/8    Evacuate?  In our moment of triumph?  I think you overestimate their
        chances!
2008/10/8-9 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:51437 Activity:low
10/8    Curious, how does our economy today compare to Japan's economy
        10-15 years ago? I heard that they had a housing crises as well
        in the old days where home values dropped over 50% of the value
        and had an extended (decade long) recession. Is this true? What
        are some similarities and differences between our current economy
        and Japan's economy 10-15 years ago?
        \_ U.S.:  No savers, reserve currency, natural resources, WMDs
           Japan:  Savers, carry currency, export driven, no WMDs
           Common:  Housing bubble, equity bubble, zombie banks
           \_ Not bad. You get a B+.
        \_ A big difference is that Japan has declining population, with
           low birth rates and virtually no immigration.  -tom
        \_ Japan has no gay people, just like Iran.
           \_ http://www.japanboyz.com  BTW what does this have to do with
              their economy anyway?
              \_ We should be able to export gay porn and build our economy
                 that way, an option that was not open to the Japanese.
                 \_ Have you heard of yaoi?
2008/10/8-9 [Reference/RealEstate, Finance/Investment] UID:51438 Activity:nil
10/8    Fed cuts interest rate by 1.5%. It's going to save the housing
        market! Yeah baby! Good job! Make America an ownership society!
        http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/fed/main-surprise.asp
        http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/fed/winners-losers_surprise.asp
2008/10/8-9 [Finance/Investment] UID:51439 Activity:nil
10/8    Stock market finally getting to about where it should be
        http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2008/10/stock-market-is-about-where-it-should.html
        \_ This person is an idiot.  Even he is right about this (which I
           doubt).  For instance he also is a global warming denier.
        \_ So should I buy stocks now? It's so low and tempting...
2008/10/8-9 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51440 Activity:nil
10/8    Which candidate pals around with terrorists?
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/4zeonz
        \_ Wait, they're recycling this?  Wow, salon sure has dropped in
           quality.
           \_ Dittohead Desperation Level: Chartruse
            \_ With faint hints of perrywinkle.
2008/10/8-9 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51441 Activity:high
10/8    Palin = Star Wars, Clinton = Star Trek:
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/4xcgzj [io9]
        \_ Obama won his Senate race because of Star Trek, no joke.
           \_ How so?
              \_ The Illinois senator/incumbent/expected to win candidate
                 dropped out of the race after it became public his wife,
                 Jeri Ryan, divorced him because she got sick of him dragging
                 her to public sex clubs and him trying to nail her in front
                 of other people.  The Illinois Republican party couldn't
                 find anyone popular enough to run in his place... so they
                 invited Alan Keyes to move to Illinois and run for the empty
                 spot.  More people voted for Obama than Alan Keyes.
                 \_ You forgot that Obama sued to unseal their divorce records.
                  \_ No, the Chicago Tribune sued, on grounds that they were
                     unjustly sealed.  But why stop making shit up?
                     \_ He got his Obama and Liberal Media talking points
                        mixed up, you have to excuse him.
                 \_ Jeri Ryan as in 7 of 9? Wow.
                 \_ That's semi revisionist history going on.  Yes that all
                    happened, but my memory was it was a close race but
                    Obama was in the lead before the whole sexual scandal.
                    Also, Jack Ryan was not an incumbent.
                    \_ I can't tell reliably. I found a page by Michelle
                       Malkin about this subject. puke.
                 \_ People should be a little more understanding for someone
                    wanting to nail Jeri Ryan in public.
                    \_ I'd rather nail Jeri Thompson in public.
                       \_ I want her all to myself.
2008/10/8-9 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:51442 Activity:nil
10/8    motd pregnant guy i have a date for you
        http://meetme.hotornot.com/r/index.html?emid=ORALSMA
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