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| 2008/8/26-9/3 [Politics/Domestic] UID:50965 Activity:nil |
8/26 Republicans are getting violent. How far will they go?
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=160453
\_ They're not Republicans, they're Hillary supporters.
\_ They could be "Recreate '68" type bozos. |
| 2008/8/26-9/3 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:50966 Activity:nil |
8/26 How dare anyone question The One!
"Obama not only aired a response ad to the spot linking him to William
Ayers, but he sought to block stations the commercial by warning
station managers and asking the Justice Department to intervene. The
campaign also planned to compel advertisers to pressure stations that
continue to air the anti-Obama commercial."
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D92PL7400&show_article=1
\_ Obama's response is pretty funny. "He blew things up when I was
eight years old, so it's ok!" Ummm... what?
\_ Dittohead desperation level: purple
\_ Ok, now you're just in denial, troll.
\_ You aren't really anyone to call someone else a troll, troll.
\_ typical dictator
\_ Let's see: someone starts publishing ads slandering you, and you
turn around and call them on the slander. Hm, yeah, I guess you're
right; only the guilty would call bullshit, right? Btw, would it
affect your vote if you knew that McCain had a black baby out of
wedlock? -krove@csua |
| 2008/8/26-9/3 [Politics/Domestic/California, Reference/Law/Court] UID:50967 Activity:nil |
8/26 Bernie Ward, super-perv
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/08/22/BA0912G3V4.DTL
\_ Man, that article is full of all kinds of irony. |
| 2008/8/26-9/3 [Consumer/Camera, Computer/SW/Apps/Media] UID:50968 Activity:nil |
8/26 Recreate '68 tries to start riot in Denver, is shut down cold
http://csua.org/u/m6q
\_ Son, that urine doesn't look healthy.
\_ Here's a great pic from the Denver post:
http://www.denverpost.com/denver/ci_10306204
\_ See, once you start attacking police, you should probably just be
shot.
\_ The problem with shooting people (they learned in the 60's)
is, even if the people you're shooting at deserve it, there
tends to be collateral damage. I'm very impressed with how
these bozos have been handled by the Denver police. I'd buy
'em all doughnuts.
\_ no one remembers the nice meek protestors who follow the rules and
tastefully politely hang out in the Freedom Cafe knitting and
pleasantly expressing their right of free assembly
\_ Just what exactly are the Recreate 68 people trying to recreate?
The only thing that comes to mind for me is that MLK and RFK were
both assasinated leading up to the DNC. |
| 2008/8/26-9/3 [Finance/Investment] UID:50969 Activity:nil |
8/26 I just place limit buy on Etrade for X amount worth of $$$ but I
don't actually have X amount in the trading account. What would
happen if the order actually executes? Do I owe Etrade a steep %
of interest or it gets taken out magically from my savings/checking
accounts?
\_ The buy probably doesn't execute, unless you have a margin account
with them.
\_ I'm going to guess that you get as many shares as you have $$$
for, but it's possible it will execute and you will have to
fund the account ASAP (plus fees, I'm sure). This will depend
on your brokerage, so ask them and not us. |
| 2008/8/26-9/3 [Finance/Investment, Industry/Startup] UID:50970 Activity:moderate |
8/26 I just bought GOOG at 500 last week, WHY IS IT DOWN??? What's
up? I don't see any news that would indicate that it's in
trouble. Argh! -newbie investor
\_ http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=324097
Opinion: Why Google has lost its mojo -- and why you should care
Sorry. You should have shorted it.
\_ that article is awful.
\_ if you're going to freak out every time a stock you own goes down,
you shouldn't be investing in the stock market. What's your
time horizon on GOOG? -tom
\_ I'm looking at maybe 5 years? -op
\_ So don't worry about the stock price. Do you think the
company has changed since last week? -tom
\_ No, but it's possible sentiment has. GOOG was driven to
heights by investor sentiment more than by any actual
quantitative analysis. Number of insider buys over
the last year: 0. 399 sells, though.
\_ GOOG was driven to heights by making enormous gobs
of money. They appear to still be making enormous
gobs of money. If you believe they will stop making
money, sell. If you believe they'll continue to grow
and make more money, don't worry about the stock
price. "In the short term, the stock market is a
voting machine, in the long term, it's a weighing
machine. --Buffett". -tom
\_ Interesting that insiders don't see it as a buy,
but as a sell. As for the long term, how did
GOOG do 5 years ago? Oh wait, it wasn't around.
Nice quote from Buffett. I doubt he owns GOOG.
\_ Isn't this what they mean when they say
"X continues to defy analysts expectations"?
\_ Why would insiders buy, when they already have
stock built into their compensation package?
And of course insiders sell; that's what
happens when you use stock or stock options
as part of compensation. Microsoft had 77k
shares purchased, 40 million shares sold by
insiders. That has nothing to do with the
propsects of the company; it just has to do
with whether people's options are above water
or not. -tom
\_ Would you buy if you strongly felt it would
double in a year and the market was
undervaluing it? I'm not saying it's a
predictor necessarily, but 399 sells and 0
buys doesn't fill me with warm fuzzies.
\_ you really have no idea what you're
talking about. -tom
\_ Nice rebuttal. Did you spend all day
coming up with that?
Maybe you should read some of these
papers:
http://tinyurl.com/5ahs5d
One of his conclusions:
"This paper provides evidence that
insiders possess, and trade upon,
knowledge of specific and
economically-significant forthcoming
accounting disclosures as long as
two years prior to the disclosure.
Stock sales by insiders increase
three to nine quarters prior to a
break in a string of consecutive
increases in quarterly earnings.
Insider stock sales are greater for
growth firms, before a longer period
of declining earnings, and when the
earnings decline the break is
greater. Consistent with avoiding an
established legal jeopardy, there is
little abnormal selling in the two
quarters immediately prior to the
break."
Another addressing the <DEAD>dot.com<DEAD> bubble:
"Furthermore, stock corrections
after the bubble burst are strongly
negatively associated with estimated
levels of earnings management and
insider selling during the bubble."
\_ how about this: find a technology
company that uses stock-based
compensation, that has gone up in
stock price over the past year,
that doesn't have a huge amount
of insider selling. -tom
\_ That's the catch. If the stock
went up significantly then why
would they buy? It's already
higher than their built-in price
target. If you only look at
companies whose stock has gone
up of course you will find few
buyers: It's overpriced! Why not
find one which has few sales, or at
least a better ratio than 399:0?
AAPL has had some inside buyers. I
am not sure GOOG has ever had an
insider buy. (Not that I could
find.) Are you implying this guy's
research is garbage? It implies
that insiders trade on knowledge
they have, which anyone with common
sense would think is a sound
conclusion. Compare AAPL to
GOOG. AAPL has some buyers. I
am not sure GOOG has ever had
an inside buy.
conclusion.
\_ In the last 6 months Apple has
zero insider purchases and
> 1 million shares sold by
insiders (14.6% of the total
insider holdings). That's
just what happens when stocks
go up. That doesn't mean the
stock is overpriced; it means
that people are exercising
options and having to sell
to cover taxes, or just taking
profits. If you are getting
stock-based compensation, it's
probably a stupid idea to
buy more stock in your company;
you should be diversifying.
-tom
\_ AAPL has had zero insider buys
and over 1 million shares sold
in the past 6 months (16% of
insider holdings). That's just
what happens when you have
stock-based compensation; people
sell to cover taxes on their
option exercises, or they just
take profits. It is generally
stupid to buy stock in your
company when you already get
paid partly in stock; you
should diversify. -tom
\_ shouldn't you be shorting GOOG at 100 ?
\_ I'm not the short GOOG at 100 guy -op, different guy |
| 2008/8/26 [Uncategorized] UID:50971 Activity:nil |
8/26 Dave Freeman, an advertising agency executive who co-wrote "100 Things
to Do Before You Die," an adventure-seeking and often unconventional
travel guide that personified the way he lived his life, has died.
He was 47.
Freeman died Aug. 17 after falling and hitting his head at his home in
Venice, said his father, Roy.
lolz.
\_ two questions for you, paolo:
1) "lolz" is fucking stupid. Are you brain damaged?
2) What's funny about this? -tom |
| 2008/8/26-9/3 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Others] UID:50972 Activity:nil |
8/26 Gary Glitter spent months in a Vietnamese prison cell. Can I vote
for him too?
\_ that's a fit punishment for writing "Rock and Roll Part II". -tom
\_ What are you talking about?
\_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Glitter
\_ I know who Glitter is--I didn't ask *who* the op was talking
about.
\_ Did you see the part about how he was sent to jail in
Vietnam?
\_ BUD DAY doesn't appreciate what you are trying to imply here.
\_ OJ Simpson is a black celebrity. Can I vote for him too?
\_ Your analogy doesn't hold since Barack Obama isn't so much a
celebrity as a politician. Your analogy would work somewhat
better if you stated that the similarity between OJ and Barack
is that they're both black, but that would make you sound
racist, esp. as op drew parallels between experience and not
skin color. Would you like to try again?
\_ No, because you are incredibly stupid and not worth
conversing with.
\_ Yay! Win by annoying you! Yay! |
| 2008/8/26-9/3 [Uncategorized] UID:50973 Activity:nil |
8/26 I *hate* it when that happens
http://failblog.org/2008/08/26/golfing-fail
\_ Too bad, I was hoping these idiots would fall over and
crack on their heads. |
| 2008/8/26-9/3 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:50974 Activity:nil |
8/26 http://kernel.org seems down and I'm unable to install git-core via macports. is there anything I can do to get this installed? thx \_ sure, use the magic Facebook mirror http://mirror.facebook.com/kernel.org \_ amazing! thanks. that worked. so this is like the new and improved (tm) http://archive.org wayback machine? \_ amazing! thanks. that worked. \_ in the future, you could also try www{2,3,4}.kernel.org, http://www.eu.kernel.org http://www.us.kernel.org etc. |
| 2008/8/26-9/3 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:50975 Activity:nil |
8/26 I've been wondering about the Georgian side of the story, here it is
http://preview.tinyurl.com/6bn2co
Very interesting.
\_ Can you summarize? I'm not going to read this unless it blames
Obama for the whole thing.
\_ Can you summarize? I'm not going to read this unless it blames
McCain for the whole thing.
\_ Can you summarize? I'm not going to read this unless it blames
Bush for the whole thing.
\_ Can you summarize? I'm not going to read this unless it blames
Putin for the whole thing.
\_ Can you summarize? I'm not going to read this unless it blames
Rice for the whole thing.
\_ Can you summarize? I'm not going to read this unless it blames
Gorbachev for the whole thing.
{Obama,McCain,Bush,Putin,Rice,Gorby} for the whole thing.
\_ No, if I could summerize in 80 characters, it would not be very
interesting. I will say this explanation makes much more sense
than the reported one, although I would need futher confirmation
to totally believe it. It does have much less "WTF?".
\_ This is the part I don't understand. It is Georgia started the
whole thing, knowning fully well that Russian is going to step in.
Now, they are crying foul?
\_ So, you didn't read the article? |
| 2008/8/26-9/3 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:50976 Activity:nil |
8/26 Damn wind turbines. They're exploding all our bats!
http://tinyurl.com/5hfhj5 |
| 2008/8/26-30 [Recreation/Dating] UID:50977 Activity:low |
8/26 Hey, motd boob guy, I have got a story for you:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/6gkcae
\_ No pics, damn.
\_ I don't understand her outrage. She's got metal on her body. How
does the TSA know it's a bra and not a box cutter or whatever?
They have to err on the side of caution, because otherwise
someone will smuggle something in their bra and they will be
taken to task for not being diligent.
\_ a 9/11-style takeover with box cutters would not be possible
anymore; keeping people from bringing nail clippers or swiss
army knives on planes does nothing meaningful for security.
\_ Thank you Security Guru. Don't quit your day job.
\_ There is no way that confiscating nail clippers makes
anyone more safe. It is a "feel good measure" and nothing
more, just like most of what the TSA does.
\_ The amount of metal in an underwire bra is very small, and
overwhelmingly the choice for large-breasted women because of the
support. So why are the sensors tuned up so high as to detect
that tiny amount of metal?
\_ How else would they have an excuse to strip "A big-busted
woman wearing a large underwire bra"?
\_ Do you want them to detect metal or not? The amount is not
very small if you've ever taken apart a bra, by the way,
and they have no idea of knowing it's even the bra that's
setting the sensor off until they check. She can say it's
her bra, but who is to know? |
| 2008/8/26-9/3 [Uncategorized] UID:50978 Activity:nil |
8/26 natalie coughlin about to get married
i lost my chance!
\_ You had a chance with her?
\_ tjb part deux
\_ ob i denied her sex that's why she won gold |
| 2008/8/26-29 [Uncategorized] UID:50979 Activity:nil |
8/26 Okay, this is a lame request, but I need a copy of IE 6 for Windows
unpatched (SP 0, if you will). I cannot seem to find it. -ausman
\_ http://browsers.evolt.org
\_ Thanks! -ausman
\_ I could probably arrange to get you a giant 3 gig VM, would that
work? |
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