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| 2008/8/8-13 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:50816 Activity:nil |
8/8 Russia invades Georgia
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4486208.ece
\_ Welcome back Soviets, we missed you.
\_ They picked the luckiest day to invade!
\_ Anyone have any idea what's really going on here? Georgia wants
to join Nato and be west aligned, so Russia has been supporting
some rebel/seperatist groups? These groups are Russian citizens
or what? I don't really get that part. Georgia just made a major
offensive against a seperatist group and crushed them, so Russia
is rolling in the tanks?
\_ There's a population of ethnic Russians in that region of Georgia
who want to break away and join Russia. Mind you, given Russia's
opposition to Kosovar independence and Chechnyan separatists,
the irony is appalling.
\_ Just curious, was that population of ethnic Russians shipped
there by the soviets? They did that with some areas.
\_ Turns out (on closer viewing) that the separatists are a
different ethnic population from Russia and Georgia. As
usual, the BBC has an excellent primer on the region:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3261059.stm |
| 2008/8/8-13 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Others] UID:50817 Activity:high |
8/8 Edwards admits affair, doesn't admit for being incredible
stupid dumbass who apparently thought having an affair and having
his life withstand the scrutiny of being a viablepres. candidate
were sustainable
\_ He's a Democrat. This is expected. No big deal. Suck dick,
fuck pussy, whatever. Just don't do anything stupid like
invading a country and getting ourselves into deep shit.
Look you fucking Conservatives. Adultery is a sustainable
business. Invading countries in the Holy Name of Freedom
is NOT a sustainable business. Ok?
\_ Liberals invaded Vietnam and Korea. Actually, liberals invaded
Iraq too, in the Senate anyway. Atheist liberals ran the USSR.
Look at the subways and efficient apartment buildings they built.
Iraq was a fucked up country already. I don't like that I had
to spend my tax dollars fixing their problems but in the long
run they will probably be better off. I dunno about us being
better off though. Also, Bush != "Conservatives". Bush is
not a classical conservative.
\_ "Liberals" invaded Vietnam and North Korea? Wtf are you
talking about? If you mean that Democrats got us involved in
those two conflicts, you seriously need to read a book some
time. The people who ran the Soviet Union are not the same
as the Clintons. Get out of the 50s. Wake up. -!pp
\_ Harry Truman.
\_ What, are you channeling Batman from the video below?
You're not making any sense. What are you trying to
say?
\_ "...liberals invaded Iraq too..." It's almost like
they're proud of being ignorant.
\_ Harry Truman was President when Vietnam started.
He was a Democrat.
\_ And? When did this supposed invasion occur?
\_ Well, I might argue it was when the first
American soldiers entered S. Vietnam. Or
could be during LBJ's term with passing of
the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution.
the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution. The start
and escalation of the conflict happened
with Democrats in office. They could have
just sent all Americans home but instead
sent troops. Sending troops is an invasion.
\_ In earnest after Gulf of Tonkin Resolution,
but before then even. Troops were pulled
out under a Republican, of course.
\_ Send combat troops to aid friendly
govt. != invade. Running away !=
pulling troops.
\_ Ask the Vietnamese if they consider
it an invasion.
\_ North or South?
\_ Either/or. Fully 80% of Vietnamese,
whether in the North or South,
considered the US an unwanted
aggressor. It's one reason we
left. No one wanted us there
except a minority of elites.
\_ Truman? Are you proud of being ignorant? The
puppet state was set up by Eisenhower.
\_ Are you proud of being a douchebag?
Truman started it. (D) Kennedy was the first
to send combat troops. (D)
\_ You keep saying that "Truman started it" but
you are unable to explain what you mean by
"it." The nation of Vietnam? It has existed
for at least 1000 years. Try again, in
English this time.
\_ Duh, US military involvement in Vietnam.
Do you have a cognitive impediment?
The point was, Democrats got us involved
in the Vietnam War (and Korea). Why not
explicitly say whatever it is you think
refutes this instead of dancing around
with your head in your ass?
(the puppet government is irrelevant)
\_ Christ, if you're going to go down
this route, why not just say that
Wilson started it when he wouldn't
hear out Ho Chi Minh's proposal for
Viet independence after the signing
of the Treaty of Versailles?
\_ Because Kennedy and LBJ are the
ones who actually started US
combat operations in Vietnam.
Keep dancing.
\_ I can't wipe out a lifetime of
ignorance in a few paragraphs, sorry.
From the Vietnamese eyes, the
Vietnamese war of independence started
in 1885. The first direct US involve-
ment in Vietnam was during WWII, so you
might as well blame FDR. The actual
Civil War between north and south
started during Eisenhower and JFK sent
sent first US combat troops Trying to pin
US involvement in Vietname on Truman
is just bizarre.
sent first US combat troops. Trying to
pin US involvement in Vietname on
pin US involvement in Vietnam on
Truman is just bizarre.
\_ Truman was President first and
the US was already involved
militarily by the time Eisenhower
was elected. However, you can blame
FDR, too, if you want.
\_ Google MAAG
Besides, we sure were lucky D's were
elected and stopped the conflict before it
got out of hand!
\_ So your claim is that the US/Vietnam conflict
started while Vietnam was still a French
colony under French control? How did you do
in your history classes? Get any A's?
colony under French control?
\_ No, my claim is that US military
involvement started then.
\_ You're wrong.
\_ Am I? Whew. Thank you for, um, your convincing
argument backed up with facts.
\_ My point exactly! Have a cigar. And a dick.
\_ No thanks, you're a big enough dick for
the both of us.
\_ Shit, good thing the Democrats didn't nominate him.
\_ What happened to 'mccain has affair, nytimes reports on it,
mccain served in vietnam so no one follows up' |
| 2008/8/8-13 [Uncategorized] UID:50818 Activity:nil |
8/8 I find this video incredibly amusing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2yv8aT0UFc
[Batman is hard to understand] |
| 2008/8/8-13 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:50819 Activity:nil |
8/8 One Nation, Under a New Obama Salute (USNews)
http://csua.org/u/m1n
Whoever thought this was good idea....
\_ Clearly stolen from Star Trek
http://tinyurl.com/6fc8zb
\_ Who must have stolen it from the University of Oregon. |
| 2008/8/8-13 [Consumer/CellPhone, Computer/Companies/Apple] UID:50820 Activity:nil |
8/8 Should I pwn/unlock my iPhone 3g? Anyone do this yet and regret it?
-scottyg
\_ pwn it. But don't upgrade to 2.0.1 firmware yet.
Do you want to customize your iPhone and put different icons on it? --oj
Do you want to customize your iPhone and put different icons on
it? --oj
\_ Too late on the upgrade...and yes I would like to customize it,
but more than just different icons. I was more interested in
running Python scripts or NES emulators. Thanks. -scottyg |
| 2008/8/8-13 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:50821 Activity:nil |
8/8 http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080808/sc_afp/usenvironmentclimatewarming "WASHINGTON (AFP) - US and British researchers have *confirmed* the link between warmer climate and an increase in powerful rainstorms, according to a study released Thursday that underscores one of the challenges of global warming." |
| 2008/8/8-13 [Computer/HW/Memory] UID:50822 Activity:nil |
8/8 Just got my 16GB Rally2 USB flash drive, for $50. I can't believe the
pace of technology.
\_ http://woot.com has an 8GB Kingston DataTraveler 100 for $20+s/h. |
| 2008/8/8-11 [Uncategorized] UID:50823 Activity:nil |
8/8 GO HOME EARLY. Traffic will be horrible due to Olympics.
\_ ? |
| 2008/8/8-11 [Uncategorized] UID:50824 Activity:low |
8/8 Have you guys ever a really old woman and said to yourself
WOW she's suppose to be 6X 7X? I bet she was a total hottie
when she was younger!
\_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liza_Wang Age 60.
\_ Not really. More like seen a picture of a hottie from back in
the day and then compared to now. For example, Sophia Loren,
Liz Taylor, Racquel Welch, or (before she died) Rita Hayworth:
Liz Taylor, Raquel Welch, or (before she died) Rita Hayworth:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rita_Hayworth_(1977).jpg
The one that always throws me is Angela Lansbury.
Then:
http://content8.flixster.com/photo/93/88/26/9388262_gal.jpg
http://content8.flixster.com/photo/30/85/89/3085890_gal.jpg
Now:
http://content7.flixster.com/photo/93/54/25/9354257_gal.jpg
\_ Watch the (very enjoyable) "The Court Jester" to see Angela
Lansbury at her best.
\_ Seen it:
"The pellet with the poison's in the flagon with the dragon;
the vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true."
\_ GMILF |
| 2008/8/8-13 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:50825 Activity:kinda low |
8/8 Drive Naked, Save America
http://tinyurl.com/6xmyer [cnn.com]
\_ Is this worse or better than reducing the national speed
limit back to 55 (and 65 in some cases)?
\_ This is better than handing out tire gauges how?
\_ For one thing, there would be lots of naked chicks on the road.
\_ And more accidents.
\_ Drilling for oil in the OCS is going to have a negligible effect,
too. As much as it will pain conservatives, they are just going
to have to learn to live with less oil.
\_ And you won't?
\_ Since I already don't own a car, I doubt it will have a
huge impact on me. Perhaps on food prices, but that is
a very small part of my budget.
\_ The price of oil affects the price of almost everything.
\_ http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/10/opinion/10friedman1.html
Too bad the conservatives blocked the CAFE standards
from going up for all those years.
\_ Yeah, incinerating trash sure sounds environmentally
correct.
\_ This is moronic. Way more oil would have to go towards climate
control because clothing helps people regulate temperature. This
guy ridicules Obama for proposing a good idea and being stumped
that the Republicans would mock him for it. Its dumbass partisan
politics to mock someone for an idea you agree with. May as well
mock yourself. |
| 2008/8/8-13 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:50826 Activity:low |
8/8 Interest rates have risen over the past several years, but for now
are still at historically low levels. Favorable interest rates,
combined with the new first-time homebuyer tax credit of 10% of the
price of a home (up to a maximum of $7,500, applicable to certain
home buyers) might add up to a good time for you to start searching
for your new home.
\_ if I wait, I can collect more cash, wait for interest rates to go
up, which will cause house values to go down. Then I can buy:
- a cheaper house
- with higher interest rates
- and a smaller mortgage (on account of a cheaper house and having
more cash)
- and I can refi if the interest rate drops
- and live like a renter for the next 3 years while the other guy
is 3 years into his $800K mortgage already
is 3 years into his $800K mortgage already
\_ What if it's not 3 years? What if rates rise but prices
don't fall enough to offset them? If you can comfortably
afford to buy now then just buy now. If you can't then don't.
PS. Is there some reason you keep deleting this?
\_ it's not me that's deleting it.
if I can comfortably rent, why not rent? I can always buy
later with more down payment.
\_ How do you know that home prices are going to go down?
Which area are you interested in?
\_ how do you know home prices are going up?
\_ I don't know which way they are going to go. Neither
do you, actually, you are taking a chance.
\_ I agree.
\_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt_GhcQ5EtU |
| 2008/8/8-13 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:50827 Activity:nil |
8/8 The Tiananmen Massacre Map
http://pajamasmedia.com/claudiarosett/the-tiananmen-massacre-map
In that 1989 article, in the closing paragraph, I tried to set down
something that still applies today; not least as visitors to Beijing
survey the massive security efforts, not all of which are intended
strictly to protect the Olympics:
"No doubt when the Chinese government has finished dealing with its
people, the tidy square will be presented again as a suitable site for
tourists, visiting dignitaries and the Chinese public to come honor the
heroes of China's glorious revolution. It will be important then to
remember the heroes of 1989, the people who cried out so many times
these past six weeks, .Tell the world what we want. Tell the truth
about China.' " |
| 2008/8/8-13 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:50828 Activity:nil |
8/8 China Olympics opening ceremony is currently sucking like GWB.
\_ The ceremony looked great to me, but while I was watching I kept on
thinking about the % of annual GDP that it was burning.
thinking about the % of annual GDP that it had burned.
\_ It cost very little. Most of it was manpower. Cheap Chink
power, in the millions.
\_ I read it cost $300M. |
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