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2008/7/29-8/3 [Uncategorized] UID:50713 Activity:nil
7/28    what is a lemon party?
        \_ Google for it.
        \_ I don't think it's work safe.  Something to do with old people
           and orgies.
        \_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon_party
           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_site#Lemonparty.org
           Both are hilarious.
2008/7/29 [Reference/BayArea, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:50714 Activity:nil
7/29    I guess this is a good argument for CCW in church:
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/6nl6nr (SF Gate)
2008/7/29-8/5 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:50715 Activity:nil
7/29    Is there a verbose option for shutdown in RedHat Linux? I'd really
        like to see the messages being generated without have to 'tail
        /var/log/messages' over and over.
        \_ stick this in your .bashrc
           "alias mtail="sudo tail -F --retry /var/log/messages"
           and do it in another window after you type shutdown
           \_ >.< Silly me, forgot the option to "follow" with tail. This
              will do nicely. Thank you.
        \_ login in on console and watch th shutdown process there?
2008/7/29 [Reference/BayArea, Reference/RealEstate] UID:50716 Activity:high 90%like:50720
7/29    Swami! Your prediction is off by 6 months!!! You SUCK
        http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/28/real_estate/another_home_price_dip/index.htm?cnn=yes
        \_ Wow San Francisco went UP by 22%. How about San Jose, Sunnyvale,
           Mountain View, Santa Clara, etc?
           \_ Fuck SF. Let them pay for their own stupid bridges.
2008/7/29-8/3 [Uncategorized] UID:50717 Activity:nil
7/29    Ouch, that had to leave a mark
        http://failblog.org/2008/07/29/track-fail
        \_ whoa, what happened? How did the guy trip right before the
           jump?
2008/7/29-8/3 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:50718 Activity:low
7/29    Place your bets:
         Sen. Stevens of Alaska faces criminal charges
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/6yrtp2 (Yahoo News)
        \_ I knew we should have gotten rid of that dick weed when he
           offered.  -R
           \_ People like that is why I left the party. -I
              \_ huh, people like BUSH-II CHENEY ADDINGTON ROVE is
                 why i left the party.  a little 100k graft never hurt
                 anyone.
              \_ Disloyalty is evil                     -Reagan
              \_ Is our children learning?
2008/7/29-8/3 [Politics/Domestic/Abortion, Politics/Domestic/Immigration] UID:50719 Activity:nil
7/29    Monica Goodling and Alberto Gonzalez routinely broke the law
        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/28/AR2008072801007.html
        \_ "young political aide" ... "Goodling, 34".  Wow, 34 is young. I feel
           better now.
           \_ 30 is the new 20.
        \_ They were following a higher law. God Bless!
        \_ Goodling was already granted immunity in return for her
           testimony and Gonzalez will be pardoned. Is it really "breaking
           the law" if you believe you are above the law and have the
           power to get away with it?
           \_ Of course it is. Whether you get punished for it is something
              else.
2008/7/29-8/3 [Politics/Domestic/California, Reference/BayArea] UID:50720 Activity:nil 90%like:50716
7/29    Swami! Your prediction is off by 6 months!!! You SUCK
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/6opb7h [cnn]
        \_ Wow San Francisco went UP by 22%. How about San Jose, Sunnyvale,
           Mountain View, Santa Clara, etc?
           \_ Fuck SF. Let them pay for their own stupid bridges.
           \_ Based on the for sale flyers I see, prices in the parts of
              SJ near Cupertino/Saratoga have gone up slightly from January.
           \_ This is a typo. "SF" for Case Shiller means SF MSA, which is
              SF, CoCo and Alameda counties.
              SF, Marin, San Mateo, Alameda and CoCo counties.
        \_ What is the peak of this graph?
           http://bubblemeter.blogspot.com/2007_09_01_archive.html -GS
2008/7/29-8/5 [Politics/Foreign/Canada, Science/Space] UID:50721 Activity:nil
7/29    More ice breaking off:
        "Giant chunks break off Canadian ice shelf"
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080729/wl_canada_nm/canada_arctic_col
        "Temperatures in large parts of the Arctic have risen far faster than
        the global average in recent decades, a development that experts say
        is linked to global warming."
        \_ It's summer.
           http://icecap.us/images/uploads/NSIDC071708.JPG
           \_ It didn't break off in 3000 other summers:
              '"Whatever has kept this ice shelf in balance for 3,000 years is
              no longer keeping it in balance," he told Reuters, saying he too
              would not be surprised to see more ice breaking away from the
              Ward Hunt shelf this year.'
              \_ So since it's been warmer in the past 3000 years, global
                 temperature must not be the triggering factor.  What about the
                 rise of volcanism in the arctic?
                 \_ Water keeps heat over time, and it probably took longer
                    than a couple of months to go from stable for 3000 years
                    to where it is now.  But don't stop wearing those
                    blinders, they look good on you.
                    \_ Sigh. I know water has a heat capacity.  There have been
                       warmer trends for longer in the last 3000 years.
                   ty.  There have been
                       warmer trends for longer in the last 3000 years.
                       \_ See billy, elves did it.  And I prove that by
                          making up data!
                          \_ Hell, elves are more consistent than AGW, which
                             seems to make no falsifiable claims.
                             \_ So where is your 3000 year old temperature
                                data?
                                \_ GTFW "medieval warm period"
                                   \_ "the idea of a global or
                                      hemispheric "Medieval Warm
                                      Period" that was warmer than
                                      today however, has turned out to
                                      be incorrect" and that what
                                      those "records that do exist
                                      show is that there was no
                                      multi-century periods when
                                      global or hemispheric
                                      temperatures were the same or
                                      warmer than in the 20th century" (NOAA)
                                      \_ Damn you and your facts!  Don't
                                         ruin a perfectly good rehashed
                                         flamewar.
                                      \_ "The summers 9,500 years ago were
                                         warmer than today"
                                         http://tinyurl.com/5nc58b
                                         \_ 3000 < 9500
                                            \_ Damn, you're right.  It's out of
                                               the time range, so we must be
                                               causing this warming.
                                               \_ Nice blinders.  Wanna fuck?
                    \_ Guys!  Note that I already inserted the flamewar
                       placeholder for you.  No need to actually have
                       the same old flamewar again.
        \_ Insert usual AGW flamewar here.
2008/7/29-8/3 [Science/Disaster] UID:50722 Activity:nil
7/29    5.8 quake in LA
        \_ Felt exactly like Whittier quake, so it's not surprising it's
           roughly the same size. A whole lotta shaking, though.
        \_ Chino Hills is NOT Los Angeles. Los Angeles is in-between
           the 110 the 10 and the 5. Chino Hills is far away from
           Los Angeles. Fucking ignorant northerners. To be precise,
           you should say "The Greater LA"
           http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsus/Quakes/ci14383980.php#details
           http://preview.tinyurl.com/67pu5h [usgs]
           \_ LA is not only between the 110, 10, and 5, angry dude. LA is
              south of the 10, for instance. Chino Hills is rightly
              considered a suburb of LA, even though it is in SB County.
              Plenty of people in LA proper were shaken pretty good.
           \_ The epicenter was Chino hills.  Are you saying there wasn't any
              shaking in LA proper?
        \_ revised down to a 5.4
2008/7/29 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:50723 Activity:nil 90%like:50726
7/29    McCain far less active than Obama on the hill
        http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/sen.-mccain-holds-off-putting-his-name-on-gop-energy-proposal-2008-07-28.html
        \_ So what?  I mean, I know what you're trying to say, this is supposed
           to defuse the critisism that Obama isn't doing anything.  The
           difference is that McCain has been very active for 25 years.
           Obama has been pretty much inactive for 3 years.  What they are
           doing right now matters much more to Obama since his history is
           so much shorter.
2008/7/29-8/5 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:50724 Activity:nil
7/29    Turns out that putting people in housing actually reduces
        homelessness, who could have guessed that?
        http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/us/30homeless.html?hp
        \_ And we care because... ?
        \_ Does that include a nurse maid to wipe their ass? I thought it was
           "teach a man to fish", not "give him a fish."
           \_ Because the govt wastes time and money to create reports on such
              obvious matters?  -- !OP
2008/7/29-30 [Science/Electric, Computer/SW/Security] UID:50725 Activity:nil 78%like:50729
7/29    Pepperspray vs. taser, round #1:
        http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/self-defense-personalsecurity.html
        http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/tasers_vs_pepper_spray_evaluation_of_police_weapons.htm
        http://videos.caught-on-video.com/Player.aspx?fileid=513DC6A2-FF6A-40F9-9893-589AC926FCCE&p=0 (taser takes down a BULL)
2008/7/29-8/5 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:50726 Activity:nil 90%like:50723
7/29    McCain far less active than Obama on the hill
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/6re4qd [the hill]
        \_ So what?  I mean, I know what you're trying to say, this is supposed
           to defuse the critisism that Obama isn't doing anything.  The
           difference is that McCain has been very active for 25 years.
           Obama has been pretty much inactive for 3 years.  What they are
           doing right now matters much more to Obama since his history is
           so much shorter.
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