7/7     So, Jesse Helms #1 Fan, what do you think of teh gay?
        \_ ???

7/7     Damn those racist babies!
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/6m2pkn    [telegraph]
        \_ Ummm, wow.  You can turn up your nose to things you don't like,
           unless they are from a foreign country, in which case you are
           mandated by law to eat them.  Awesome.
        \_ So, is it racist if a muslim kid refused to eat pork?
           \_ "Muslim" is technically a religious affiliation, not a race.  But
              I'd ask the same question myself.
        \_ So there's no chance this quote was pulled out of context and
           is totally bullshit.  Oh wait, there isn't even a full quote.
           But don't let that stop you.

7/7     I didn't know Mayor Daley had a soda account
        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/05/AR2008070501736.html
        \_ Wow, there are some amazing quotes in here.
           "Clearly, the bad guys can get guns...[but]... I shudder at the
           thought of everyone packing heat."  This guy is literally in favor
           of only criminals having guns?
           "Just because it's constitutional doesn't mean it should be
           allowed."  Okay....

7/7     Oh Merkel!  Trying to deploy her Weapons of Mass Distraction again.
        Only that they are much less effective this time.
        http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080706/germany_g_8_food_prices.html
        \_ lolol she has boobs!

7/7     I didn't know Mayor Daley had a soda account
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/5kbjqh [washington post]
        \_ Wow, there are some amazing quotes in here.
           "Clearly, the bad guys can get guns...[but]... I shudder at the
           thought of everyone packing heat."  This guy is literally in favor
           of only criminals having guns?
           "Just because it's constitutional doesn't mean it should be
           allowed."  Okay....

7/7     We Americans are no longer the worst tourists.
        http://www.csua.org/u/lv7  (Yahoo! News)
        I wonder if it's the decline of the US dollar that made us more humble.
        \_ I doubt it, that wouldn't fit with this: "Americans wind up as the
           biggest-spending and best-tipping tourists."
           \_ we're very generous with money we borrow.
        \_ More likely the decline of the dollar has simply made us travel
           abroad less.

7/7     Reiser leads police to body of Nina
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/6xwgsg [sfgate]
        \_ i can't believe this is the same reiser of ReiserFS
           \_ then you never met him.
              \_ does he have Asperger's Syndrome and carry a gun like emarkp?
                 \_ At least he doesn't think God talks to him.
                 \_ emarkp is a nice enough guy in person, he just has a
                    ridiculous world view.  Reiser is insane.  -tom
                    \_ Almost all Aspies appear to be nice but have really
                       really warped perception of the world view. Also,
                       almost all Aspies deny that they are Aspies despite
                       rigorous clinical checks. Yeah, typical Aspies.
        \_ carrying your gun into church isnt aspie, it's just stupid.
           \_ Unless it saves your life and the lives of others.
              http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=3980889&page=1
              or, another
              http://preview.tinyurl.com/5rwuem
              -emarkp
              \_ ok i'll give you that.  if you live South Africa, you probably
                 need to carry a gun in some places.  I live in AMERICA.
                 \_ carrying a gun makes the carrier feel safe and everyone
                    else unsafe. Arms race, anyone?
              \_ Cool. I wonder if taser would help in this case. Also,
                 how carrying a handgun helps in cases like the
                 North Hollywood shootout?
                 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout
                 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuhP2Y18CkI
                 \_ emarkp's awesome CCW handgun sure would have helped
              \_ typical religious nutcase takes 1-2 examples and say
                 "yes it works!" and also cry out "statistics lie!"
                 Typical Aspies also don't change their view point once
                 they've made up their mind. Hello Aspie emarkp!
                 \_ Hi anonymous troll!  You said "it's just stupid".  I post
                    counter-example.  You go ad hominem.  Thanks for making my
                    point. -emarkp
              \_ http://www.wjactv.com/news/16728776/detail.html
                 Two dead after Clearfield church shooting
                 http://www.wsbtv.com/news/16639564/detail.html
                 Shooting outside Cobb church leaves 1 dead
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080625/NEWS03/80625083/1005
                 Pontiac teen sought for allegedly killing boy at church
                    \_ Oh, this is a good one.  What is a 16-yr old doing with
                       a handgun?
                 <http://http://www.nbc5i.com/news/16659670/detail.html
                 One dead after police-involved shooting at Rockwell Church
                 And that's just a trivial Google News search from the
                 past month.  I'll also point out that the Colorado Springs
                 incident was an *armed security guard*, which is a lot
                 different than some random dweeb with a gun.  -tom
                 \_ Incorrectly reported.  She's a *volunteer*.
                    \_ She's a volunteer security guard.
                 \_ These events are pretty random.  The first one is about a
                    guy who went and killed the janitor at a church because the
                    guy was having an affair with his wife.  The second is a
                    guy driving up to a church parking lot and shooting someone
                    there.  The third was a guy who drove into a church parking
                    lot and pointed a gun at the officer, who shot the guy
                    dead.  What do these have to do with anything?
                    \_ I thought the topic was gun deaths.
                       \_ The claim above was that "carrying your gun into
                          church" was stupid.

7/7     Welcome to Tijuana, formerly South Central LA
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/6b5w2a [la times]
        \_ Sad part is that Tijuana would be an upgrade from what it was
           in the 1980s and 1990s.

7/7     Obama: "We cannot continue to rely only on our military... We've got
        to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful,
        just as strong, just as well funded."   Wait, what does THAT mean?
        http://csua.org/u/lva
        \_ If you read the article and didn't cut out important words
           with that eplisis it would be a lot clearer.  But then you
           couldn't take a quote out of context, removing the words that
           it obvious the quote is out of context, and make it look like
           Obama is spouting nonsense.
           \_ Isn't that guy some kind of Marxist or something?
           \_ Sorry, full quote is still nonsense.
        \_ we already do.. every able bodied american citizen has the
           right to bear arms
        \_ "Obama repeated his pledge to boost the size of the active military"
           Gee, that sounds so hopeful and changey!  I bet that will cut the
           deficit!  Health care and boosted military and peace corps expansion
           and who knows what else!  Obama has a tax dollar for everyone.
           \_ The military could be 5X as large and it would still cost less
              than blowing shit up in Iraq.