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2008/7/1 [Computer/Companies/Google, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:50431 Activity:high 68%like:50435
6/30    Blog: Why I left Google. Politics, underperformance, infefficiencies,
        ineffectiveness, and things that are plain stupid.
        http://1-800-magic.blogspot.com/2008/06/back-to-microsoft.html
        http://dannythorpe.com/about2
        This is the auther of Delphi, Google Gears API, etc etc etc.
        \_ he wrote the google gears API and delphi?  really?  i don't see
           that in there.
        \_ I think you've seriously misread this blog post. This guy has no
           really valid criticisms of Google, other than things that affect
           every workplace (which he admits, after listing a bunch of Google's
           virtues).  The main thing this douche seems to hate is open source
           software.
        \_ I wish him well having a great time managing inflicting the next
           version of Windows Home Media Time Suck Fest Screw You Consumer
           2010.  Seriously, he should just shoot himself.
2008/7/1-14 [Reference/RealEstate, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:50432 Activity:nil
6/30    Grim proving ground for Obama's housing policy
        The Boston Globe: http://csua.org/u/lu6
        \_ I hate to sound like a partisan defender, but what do the failures
           cited in this article actually have to do with Obama or his
           proposed policies? Many of the failures began before he became a
           State Senator.
           \_ This is actually Bill Clinton's fault.
2008/7/1-14 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:50433 Activity:nil
7/01    Obama: "I'll meet McCain anywhere, anytime!" ... "or not!"
        http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/5837182.html
2008/7/1-14 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:50434 Activity:low
7/01    Obama's continuing flip-flops.  This time on same-sex marriage
        http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/1051404.html
        \_ hey guess what dittoheads: conservatives are the only people who
           care about "flip flops."  The rest of us call it "reconsidering."
           \_ I don't think _anyone_ here listens to Limbaugh.  You might as
              well put that one to bed.
           \_ No wonder you like Obama, he reconsiders his opinion each time he
              speaks!  He's so nuanced!
        \_ I hate to sound like a partisan defender, but what do the failures
           cited in this article actually have to do with Obama or his
           proposed policies? Many of the failures began before he became a
           State Senator. (Aargh. Posted in response to wrong troll.)
           \_ The problem which keeps being hilighted is that Obama changes his
              opinion every time he's asked or talks to a different group.
              He's said in the past he's not for same-sex marriage.
              Just like he said he'd filibuster FISA, and now voted for it.
              Just like he said he felt the DC gun ban was constitutional, but
              now says the court made the right ruling.
              \_ What does this prove? That he's capable of being persuaded of
                 another opinion? What makes this newsworthy? If we're going
                 to go this route, how about McCain's flip-flops on the tax-
                 cuts and off-shore drilling?
                 \_ When the change is within a short time, it's a flip-flop.
                    More time allows for 'persuaded'.
                    \_ McCain in May: Off-shore drilling will not help.
                       McCain in June: Off-shore drilling for life, yo.
                       \_ I have no love for McCain--it's the worship of Obama
                          I find confusing.
                       \_ I just looked this up (HuffPo: http://csua.org/u/lu8
                          and I think you're a bit off the mark.  He's argueing
                          short vs long term, which I think is correct.
                          \_ Agin' it before he was for it:
                             http://preview.tinyurl.com/3zzkof (cbs)
                             \_ This adds nothing to the HuffPo link, it's
                                almost content free.  Why did you post this?
                                \_ It says that he was against off-shore
                                   drilling at all before he was suddenly
                                   for it. This was my original point. There
                                   was a month's time-difference here.
                 \_ Haha "persuaded of another opinion."  That's a pretty nice
                    way of putting it.  I'm not against people changing their
                    minds, but Obama is flopping all over the map.  He never
                    seems to give a reason for the changes either.  It just
                    matches whatever the audience wants to hear.  -!pp
                    \_ Pfft. I thought, for a moment, that you had an actual
                       point, but I see you're just trolling now. Looking
                       forward to more bitterness when President Obama is
                       inaugurated in '09.
                       \_ How do those blinders fit? (Not same person BTW)
                          \_ Willing to listen and talk, but not interested
                             in childish characterizations like "flip-flops"
                             especially when ignored in your own candidate.
                             \_ Who said I ignore them in McCain?  Did you
                                miss the McCain thread a while back?  But as
                                the guy says above, time allows for persuasion.
                                Changing your stance the NEXT DAY is a little
                                extreme.
                                \_ Potato, potato. If we're back to flip-
                                   flops, the election's already over.
                                   \_ Ummm... it worries me that they guy has
                                   \_ Ummm... it worries me that the guy has
                                      changed position so many times I can't
                                      even figure out what is position IS on
                                      most issues.  You appear to just be
                                      complaing about the word.  Ignore that.
                                      I don't think it's the right term for
                                      what he's doing anyway.
                                      \_ Then let's stop using the word
                                         flip-flop for anything apart from
                                         footwear. Given its historical use
                                         as propaganda against Kerry, it's a
                                         loaded term, and it needs to be
                                         retired.
                                         \_ Works for me, I never use it.
                                            I'm not the guy who posted the link
                                            though.  I actually have no problem
                                            with Obama's position here anyway.
                                            It's a dumb link. -pp
                    \_ GOP in 1996: VOTE FOR DOLE, he's a WAR HERO!  GOP in
                       2000: Forget that this guy is a draft dodger, it's
                       CHARACTER THAT MATTERS! GOP in 2004: Don't vote for
                       Kerry, he's a FAKE WAR HERO!  CHARACTER MATTERS!
                       GOP in 2008: Vote for MCCAIN, he's a WAR HERO!
                       \_ What, you mean the GOP backs its canidate? Sacre
                          Bleu!
                          \_ And throws logic and previous statements under a
                             bus in his support? Quel shock!
        \_ This is not a flip-flop, you are just too stupid to understand
           his stance. He has said repeatedly that he believes that each
           state should set its own same sex marriage policy and that the
           the federal government should not set it nationwide. He has not
           changed on that. He also disagrees with the initiative to ban
           same-sex marraige in California. He can have an opinion on a CA
           state proposition, in fact I expect my elected officials to have
           opinions. That is not the same thing as trying to legislate your
           opinion. Your black and white view of the world is precisely why
           Conservatism is in the sorry shape that it is in.
           \_ I agree.  This is a dumb link.  -Obama hater guy !op
2008/7/1-14 [Computer/Companies/Google] UID:50435 Activity:nil 68%like:50431
6/30    Blog: Why I left Google. Politics, underperformance, inefficiencies,
        ineffectiveness, and things that are plain stupid.
        http://1-800-magic.blogspot.com/2008/06/back-to-microsoft.html
        \_ what blog are you getting these links from
        \_ I think you've seriously misread this blog post. This guy has no
           really valid criticisms of Google, other than things that affect
           every workplace (which he admits, after listing a bunch of Google's
           virtues).  The main thing this douche seems to hate is open source
           software.
        \_ I wish him well having a great time managing inflicting the next
           version of Windows Home Media Time Suck Fest Screw You Consumer
           2010.  Seriously, he should just shoot himself.
           \_ He's got a pretty good point about bugs in Google apps...
        \_ The whole article can be summed up with this line: "For me, this
           really does make the project less interesting if people are not
           willing to pay for it."  I don't think this reflects badly on him
           or google, they're just a poor match.
2008/7/1-14 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:50436 Activity:nil
7/01    Stevens' dissent in Heller (DC gun ban) has a few factual errors.
        http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2008/06/stevens_dissent.php
        \_ Don't you have a job or something?
2008/7/1 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:50437 Activity:high 90%like:50441
7/01    Reid self-Godwins
        http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/news/2008/feb/19/sen-reid-accuses-coal-industry-using-old-hitler-li
        \_ ffs, tinyurl your links. They don't work as well across line breaks.
           Here, I'll help you: http://tinyurl.com/423xaf
2008/7/1-14 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:50438 Activity:nil
7/1     Obama to expand faith-based funding
        http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/07/obama.html
        \_ Waiting for emarkp's brain to asplode...
           \_ Huh?  -emarkp
2008/7/1-14 [Health] UID:50439 Activity:nil
7/01    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080701/hl_nm/drugs_who_dc
        "The United States leads the world in rates of experimenting with
        marijuana and cocaine despite strict drug laws, World Health
        Organization researchers said on Tuesday. Countries with looser drug
        laws have lower rates of abuse, the researchers report in the Public
        Library of Science journal PLoS Medicine."
        \_ Experimenting with drugs and abusing them are WAY different.
2008/7/1-14 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:50440 Activity:nil
7/01    Awesome, now we can't even do solar power
        http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/27/us/27solar.html
        \_ its just a moratorium of solar projects on public BLM land.  Nothin
           stopping folks from doing solar power on private land.   Still the
           vast tracts of cheap desert land under the BLM's control are
           probably the best resources for solar plants.  A government
           concerned about alternate energy wouldn't put up obstacles like
           this.
           \_ ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
        \_ "assess the effects of construction on the desert tortoise and
           Mojave ground squirrel." I hate squrrels.  Kill the squirrels!
           \_ This is actually pretty funny.  The continued carbon emissions
              will drive the extinction of far more species than just
              these two.  Pave the desert!
        \_ http://www.012009.com
        \_ Or coal: http://preview.tinyurl.com/598vzr [treehugger]
           \_ If you believe in clean coal, I have bridge in Brooklyn to
              sell you.
                \_ I refer you to
                http://langmuir.nuc.berkeley.edu/~peterm/COAL_VS_NUCLEAR.html
                   for a discussion of the side effects of a coal plant.
                   \_ I'll gladly take nuclear as long as the safety
                      requirements are not neglected and the industry is
                      heavily regulated.
2008/7/1-14 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:50441 Activity:nil 90%like:50437
7/01    Reid self-Godwins
        http://tinyurl.com/423xaf [lv sun]
2008/7/1-6 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:50442 Activity:nil
7/1     The Obama smears and rumors (yes Virginia, they exist)
        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/29/AR2008062901871.html
        \_ "The truth is that right after 9/11 I had a pin. Shortly after 9/11,
           particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq war, that
           became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking
           out on issues that are of importance to our national security.
           "I decided I won't wear that [American Flag] on my chest. Instead,
           I'm going to try to tell the American people what I believe will
           make this country great, [emphasis added] and hopefully that will be
           a testament to my patriotism." --Sen. Barack Obama
2008/7/1-2 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:50443 Activity:very high 85%like:50449
7/1     Who's smearing whom?
        http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=DEFCE7F3-3048-5C12-00A118B64440DF50
        \_ This article is really out to lunch.  The smears of Obama are
           everywhere.  There are whole websites devoted to proving
           that he's a gay racist from Indonesia who studied in a Madrassa,
           and there are armies of freepers feeding the rumor mills.  See
           the above WaPo article for more.  Just because "nobody with the
           McCain campaign" is openly calling him a Muslim doesn't mean that
           a large % of Americans now fervently believe this.  Obama will
           McCain campaign" is openly calling him a Muslim doesn't change the
           fact that a large % of Americans now fervently believe this, and
           are seemingly oblivious to the true fact of the matter.  Obama
           not be Swift-boated, because the fringe lunatics will do it for
           them.
           \_ So is being called a Muslim a smear?
              \_ Of course not. It happens to be untrue. If someone were to
                 say that John McCain is homosexual, would that be a smear?
2008/7/1-14 [Transportation/Car] UID:50444 Activity:nil
7/1     "Most state workers in Utah shifting to 4-day week"
        http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-06-30-four-day_N.htm
        Maybe you can get your employer to do the same, or maybe one work-
        from-home day in a week.
        \_ Like I said before, Mormons have it good man.
        \_ This is an actual decent way to reduce gasoline usage. We need more
           good ideas like this.
        \_ Question:  Does a 4-day week actually reduce gas use?
           I don't really stay home on weekends.  On workdays, I pretty
           much just go to/from work, which is actually a shorter commute
           than what I get up to on weekends.  So, with a 4-day week,
           does gas use increase or decrease?
           \_ Uh, you reduce your commutes-per-week from 5 to 4.
                \_ Uh, you missed the point, which is that I drive less
                   on a commute day than a non-commute day.  If that
                   is true for most people, then gas use increases
                   with a 4 day workweek.  Get it now?
                   \_ I got that.  You going to drive more on the 3 days now
                      then you did on the two days before?
                      \_ Yes, most likely.
                         \_ You're weird though.
                            \_ I'm not the PP, but I drive more on off days
                               also. I dont think it's that odd. I don't
                               know if I'm in the majority or not, but
                               it's worth considering. If people use the
                               off day to take the Sea Doos out to the
                               river then it will actually increase gas
                               consumption.
           \_ If that's true, a work-from-home day is still a good alternative.
           \_ Yer supposed to be working at home on the 5th day, idiot, not
              driving to Yosemite.
                \_ Yes, I think work-from-home would work.
2008/7/1-14 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:50445 Activity:nil
7/1     This is funny.  Tim Mahoney, D. Rep from Florida, sends out mailpiece
        about honoring the troops, but includes Soviet vet on the cover.
        http://csua.org/u/luc (blog Link to pdf included)
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