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2008/6/24-27 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:50349 Activity:kinda low
6/23    why do women's razors work better on my face than men's razors?
        is it because i'm azn?
        \_ Asian men have "finer" figures that are more similar with
           Caucasian women. In fact, many Caucasian women have MORE
           hair than Asian men.
        \_ What part of your face?  Beard or facial hair?
        \_ I'm asian. what beard?  im talking about the hair above my
           upper lip.
           \_ What razors are you comparing?  Because a thin cartidge probably
              is what's most important.  Those 4 blade monstrosities are
              make it really hard to shave under the nose.
        \_ Women's razor handles are often shaped differently for different
           gripping.  Maybe you're just holding your face razor wrong?  Or
           maybe you should replace your cartridge more often?
        \_ "What azn razor and white razor?  There is no azn razor!  I demand
        \_ "Azn razor?  White razor?  There is no azn razor!  I demand
           the same razor!!"
        \_ You are a girly man.
        \_ Interesting. Every woman I've been with has preferred to use
           my razor. Overall, men's razors are better quality. I presume
           it's because faces are more sensitive than legs. From my
           experience (using womens' razors when I had to) I don't like
           womens' razors at all.
           \_ I'd rather think it's because men's razor market is bigger, such
              that it can support bigger competitors who can invest more in
              research.
2008/6/24-27 [Recreation/Food/Alcohol] UID:50350 Activity:nil
6/23    If civilization collapses, at least I can make wine out my own urine
        http://www.arthurmag.com/magpie/?p=2833
        \_ Obama will never let that happen.  Candy rainbows will arc over
           chocolate rivers; happy children playing on the banks.
        \_ Um no, you are confused. She is making pruno, not wine.
2008/6/24-27 [Recreation/Dating] UID:50351 Activity:nil
6/24    Dear not getting laid guy, read this, it may help you get
        laid: http://www.laddertheory.com
        \_ oldie but goodie: http://www.laddertheory.com/images/toppingout.gif
2008/6/24-27 [Recreation/Dating] UID:50352 Activity:nil
6/24    One in 5 Americans have genital herpes. 20%
        \_ I can't figure out why I don't, I guess the religious use of
           condoms really does work. I must have had sex with 40 women
           in my life... most of them were college educated, perhaps more
           careful.
           \_ 40?  You don't get bored?  Don't they all feel the same after a
              while?
              \_ I was single for a long time (20 years) before settling down
                 and getting married. No, I never got bored, or perhaps I
                 got bored too easily, depending on how you look at it. I did
                 notice that when I was younger than 30, I was the dumpee and
                 after 30, the dumper, in almost every case.
                 \_ I'm married and I've only slept with my wife.  I can only
                    dream about sleeping with other women.  But I imagine that
                    for someone who actually gets to sleep with tens of women,
                    getting a new women would become boring because he has
                    seen them all.  -- PP
                    \_ The thrill is in the chase.
                    \_ Do you ever get bored of trying new and exciting dishes
                       of good food you have never had before?
2008/6/24-27 [Uncategorized] UID:50353 Activity:nil
6/24    Hoax of lost Amazon tribe
        http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/91536
        \_ More like incompetent media.
2008/6/24-27 [Computer/Domains] UID:50354 Activity:nil 75%like:50347 75%like:50340
6/23    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7468855.stm
        does motd let me write this, i want <DEAD>gøøgle.com<DEAD>
2008/6/24-27 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:50355 Activity:moderate 92%like:50333
6/23    Passing out "homemade" signs at Obama rally
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/67xltd [theunfocused.blogspot.com]
        \_ this is about the level of me seeing a pro mccain poster on
           the bulletin board at work.  big whoop-dee-do.  stop
           blogging about your toast being burnt.
        \_ Wow, look at all that FURIOUS ANGER in the comments.  This is
           awesome.
           \_ The always vitrolic and bile-filled Right actually has something
              to be upset about for once. I wonder if their heads are going
              to explode in November when O actually wins.
              \_ What do they have to be upset about again?  That they were
                 given a free reign to do anything they wanted for 5-6 years
                 and ended up destroying the economy and America's reputation?
                 \_ They are losing control of the government.
                    \_ You mean they are unable to control the BEAST!!!
                       Big government BAD BAD BAD! Starve it! Go Reagan!
                  \_ It's all Bill Clinton's fault!
                     \_ When Bill was POTUS we had a Republican Congress.
                 \_ Yes because the economy and America's reputation were
                    perfect before W.  Hint: deficits and bubbles were
                    existing problems.  And don't liberals love gas prices
                    being high?
                    \_ The argument that the absurdities of the W-Admin
                       should be forgiven because no one's perfect fails on
                       its face. In the history of !perfect, no POTUS has
                       done more to screw us up.
                       \_ Carter.
                          \_ Even Carter didn't leave our military and our
                             economy in a mess on the scale of W.
                             \_ Carter only had four years, W got eight.
                             \_ Are you kidding?  Carter's military failed to
                                get a bunch of helicopters across the desert.
                                Carter's economy introduced the phrase
                                "double digit inflation" and "odd-even gas
                                days" to the American public.  *AND* he
                                managed to fuck up the country in only 4
                                years.  Were you even alive during Carter's
                                term?  Do you remember any of it?  I do.
                                We've been over this before.  As bad as Bush
                                has messed up any number of things, Carter
                                was worse.  I could go on and on with Carter's
                                failures but there's no point.  If he was a
                                (R) you'd think he was Satan.  If Bush was a
                                (D) you'd be making excuses for him.  Go read
                                Carter's Malaise Speech.  That sums it up
                                nicely.
                                \_ You're comparing Carter's inability to
                                   rescue the hostages to our humiliation at
                                   the hands of insurgents with IEDs? The
                                   resurgent Taliban? Year after year of
                                   quagmire? D or R doesn't matter to me
                                   nearly as much as the squandering of
                                   surplus of budget _and_ international
                                   support by the Bush Admin.
                                   \_ I'm comparing Carter's entire concept of
                                      diplomacy and military gutting policies
                                      to nothing.  The failure stands tall and
                                      proud on the absolute scale without
                                      requiring any comparison.  How much
                                      international support do you think we
                                      had after the fucked up rescue?  After
                                      The President Of The United States Of
                                      America gave the fucking "Malaise
                                      Speech"?  Really, I seriously suspect
                                      like our other poster here that you
                                      either weren't alive or aren't old enough
                                      to remember the nightmare and very dark
                                      days for the Carter era in this country.
                                      I don't think you're stupid or anything
                                      like that, I believe you're simply
                                      uneducated on the topic.  Go look up that
                                      speech and we'll talk after.
                                \_ you know, you're right, i was not a
                                   thinking human during the carter years,
                                   but im going to go out on a short limb here
                                   and state that the Bush Administration has
                                   screwed up America 100x worse than Carter
                                   could have dreamed.  Do you realize how
                                   much of a gigantic clusterfuck Iraq is?
                                   fuck.  i don't swear that much but just
                                   thinking of bush right now makes my heartbeat
                                   go up.
                                   thinking of bush right now makes my heart-
                                   beat go up.
                                   \_ You weren't there and the media would
                                      never remind you.  I'm sorry but really
                                      you have no clue how bad it was in *this*
                                      country during Carter's era.  Since you
                                      seem so intense about Iraq, I'd rather
                                      the cluster fuck be in another country
                                      than in this country.
                                \- BUSHCO is a vastly bigger fuckup than
                                   PEANUT. and unless you are a die hard
                                   israel supporter, carter is a good
                                   "ex-president". what are the odds
                                   BUSHCO will grow up and be respected
                                   for his service, sacrifice, maturity
                                   of thought etc.
                                   \_ After he's out of office I really don't
                                      care what he does.  I barely care now.
                                      I'm not a die hard anything but I do
                                      believe it is stupid to support the
                                      theocrats and thugs in the area over
                                      the only democracy that has women's
                                      right and doesn't execute homosexuals.
                                      \- let's review: you dont have strong
                                         feeling about the US being a
                                         democracy that tortures people,
                                         is becoming a plutocracy, and
                                         appoints judges hostile to
                                         women's/gay rights ["I barely care
                                         now"], but you are significantly
                                         concerned about women's and gay
                                         rights in the middle east. why is
                                         it hard to take you seriously?
                                         YBHBCA:S. --psb
2008/6/24-27 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:50356 Activity:nil 66%like:50336
6/22    china + africa
        http://www.fastcompany.com/node/849662/print
2008/6/24-27 [Computer/Companies/Yahoo, Recreation/Humor] UID:50357 Activity:nil Cat_by:auto
6/24    http://yahoorezinr.com
        Yahoo Resigner. Write your resignation letter easily!
2008/6/24 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Others] UID:50358 Activity:nil 66%like:50361
6/24    Correlation between temperature, skin color, and IQ:
        http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/intelligence_and_skin_color
2008/6/24-27 [Industry/Startup] UID:50359 Activity:nil
6/24    Searching for a startup company in your area? Another goodie
        from crunchbase/techcrunch:
        http://www.startupwarrior.com
        http://valleywag.com/5018794/ten-most-densely-populated-technology-startup-regions
2008/6/24-27 [Computer/Companies/Google, Computer/Companies/Yahoo] UID:50360 Activity:nil Cat_by:auto
6/24    Yahoo vs. Google vs. Bear Sterns employee attrition. Yahoo may be
        dying but it's nothing compared to Bear. Google still rocks, so
        hold on to their stocks! And if you're leaving Yahoo, there's
        a resignation-letter template to use.
        http://seekingalpha.com/article/82514-yahoo-google-bear-sterns-the-employee-turnover-perspective?source=yahoo
2008/6/24-27 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan, Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Others] UID:50361 Activity:nil 66%like:50358
6/24    Correlation between temperature, skin color, and IQ:
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/yvaru4 [majority rights]
        \_ What, you couldn't find a stormfront link?
2008/6/24 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:50362 Activity:moderate 71%like:50366
6/24    Jesus in China: Christianity's rapid rise
        http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/specials/chi-jesus-1-1-webjun22,0,833717.story
        \_ Holy Jesus H. Chicom!
        \_ Jesus H. Chicom!
           \_ Jesus just left Chicom, headed down to New Orleans...
2008/6/24-27 [Transportation/Car, Transportation/Car/RoadHogs] UID:50363 Activity:high
6/24    It amazes me how stupid people are about economics.  Don't people
        realize that "speculators" make things better?
        \_ Because no politician has the guts to say: "Suck it up and move on,
           it's demand and supply and the government can't and shouldn't do
           anything about gas prices". Because no politician has the guts to
           say "Look, how about YOU consume less gas, then you will spend less
           anything about gas prices". Because no politician has the guts to say
           "Look, how about YOU consume less gas, then you will spend less
           money on it? How about living closer to work, avoiding distant
           suburbs, using carpools or public transport, or trading in your
           "barn-on-wheels" grocery-getters and 300HP single occupant commuter
           appliances for something more efficient?" No politician wants to say
           that and no consumer seems to want to hear this either. There are no
           enough drama or opportunities to pander to voters in the traditional
           "demand and supply" explanation for the fuel price situation.
            suburbs, using carpools or public transport,
            or trading in your "barn-on-wheels" grocery-getters and 300HP
            single occupant commuter appliances for something more efficient?"
            No politician wants to say that and no consumer
            seems to want to hear this either. There are
            no enough drama or opportunities to pander to voters in the
            traditional "demand and supply" explanation for the fuel price
            situation.
           \_ Sorry but this is flat out stupid.  People live far from their
              jobs because the price of a house or rental is so much lower
              even taking into account the huge increase in gas prices we've
              seen since 2006.  I want to live in your fantasy world where we
              can all simply choose to live near work.  Do you really truly
              think people drive 2+ hours a day because they like driving?
              All these people could swap out their Hummers for shitboxes
              cutting their gas costs by 50% or whatever and they'll still get
              creamed.  The reality is there aren't that many large vehicles
              doing long commutes.  I drive a V8 guzzler.  I drive it fast.
              Here's the math:  I use ~1000 gallons per year getting about 20
              mpg.  At $5/gallon for premium that's $5k/year.  I can switch to
              a crap car, get 30 mph and pay 20 cents less per gallon.  That's
              a savings of 333 gallons and $1800/year.  Whoop-ti-do.  I've
              saved the earth.  And it's 400HP, thanks.  There is plenty
              enough oil out there, insufficient refinery capacity and a ton
              of stupid laws that create different magical blends of gas that
              distort the market.  I'm sure the oil companies are doing a-OK
              on my wallet, too.  Drill, build some refineries, consolidate
              blend requirements across similar regions, and prices will drop.
              Econ 1.  The big question is: do the people in control of these
              things *want* the price to drop?  Hello Congress and State law
              makers?
              \_ I _know_ childrenless couples who opt to drive one hour each
                 way  to their work just so that they could afford to
                 live in a ginormous house even though they could live for the
                 same amount of money in a perfectly nice two bedroom house
                 or an apartment in a nice safe neghborhood, 5 to 10 minute
                 drive distance from their work for the same money.
                 (no that's not in Bay Area). So yes, my claim was entirely
                 stupid. Next, refinery situation is not nice, but you won't
                 lower the gas prices by much simply by simplifying the blends
                 and regulations. About 75% of the price of gas you pay
                 at the pump simply covers the price of oil that was used
                 to make this gas. The rest is refining and distribution.
                 Streamlinging refinery regulations would knock off a few cents
                 at best. If every person who drives a gas guzler actually
                 did something to lower gas use by 30% like you propose above,
                 the prices wouldn't be so "bad" right now. The proven oil
                 reserves in the parts of the US where you can't drill will
                 increase the supply of US made oil only marginally, and we
                 still will end up importing most of our oil from abroad.
                 I am not saying we shouldn't drill more, but McCain's and GWB
                 push to open more areas for drilling will not fix any problems
                 in the short term, and hardly make a big difference in the
                 long term.
              \_ Do you read the viking hall of manliness website too?
                 \_ Since you know nothing and have nothing intelligent to
                    say you have to resort to a cheap personal attack.  Good
                    call.  That worked for me in 5th grade, too.
                 \_ 0.o That site breaks my brain.
                    \_ http://arthurshall.com
              \_ People live far from their jobs because they are selfish
                 jerks who don't care how much suffering they cause other people
                 just so long as they get their 5 bedroom 3 bath home on half
                 an acre full of junk from Target. Homes are 50% larger then
                 they were in the 50's and families are smaller now. A smaller
                 car is not really going to fix the fundamental problem.
                 jerks who don't care how much suffering they cause other
                 people just so long as they get their 5 bedroom 3 bath home
                 on half an acre full of junk from Target. Homes are 50%
                 larger th[a]n they were in the 50's and families are smaller
                 larger then they were in the 50's and families are smaller
                 now. A smaller car is not really going to fix the fundamental
                 problem.
        \- gee, i guess even economists who debate things like hot money
           and the effects of high capital mobility are "stupid about
           economics". liquidity is generally good. but speculation is
           more complicated and might be "net" good, but not necess
           "all good". also not everybody is in the position of the
           dollar and a very large domestic economy.
           YMWTGF(GSOROS, sterilization).
           how about signing your name when calling other people stupid? --psb
           \_ http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121426475050198395.html
           \_ I do when I specify names.  The nearly universal complaints about
              commodity speculators is silly.
                        \- "i do when i specify names" is kinda silly.
                           second, in your OP you didnt resrict your comment
                           to commodity speculation. the FX futures mkt and
                           the mkt for financial hedges and speculation is
                           much bigger than the commodities mkt, so that would
                           hardly be a default assumption. --psb
              \_ It is always easier to blame someone else for your troubles
                 than accept your own part in the problem.
        \_ Well informed speculators make things better.  Get rich quick idiots
           can throw prices totally out of whack, which is bad for necessities
           like food and shelter.
           \_ Exactly.  There is a mass of people who just follow whatever the
              trend is.  They hear dot com they balloon that up, housing ditto,
              now energy and commodities.  They are idiots because the majority
              of them in each case don't realize the large paper gains, and
              meanwhile they cause short term problems and volatility.
              \_ It is not clear to me what kind of problems dot com
                 speculators caused, other than a temporary misallocation of
                 capital. It is not like driving up the cost of WebVan stock
                 caused a shortage of anything.
                 \- just out of curiosity, what do you consider the diff
                    between a <DEAD>dot.com<DEAD> "speculator" and a <DEAD>dot.com<DEAD> "investor"
                    to be ... i mean it is meaningful to talk about a
                    hedger vs a speculator in a commodity or in the FX mkt,
                    but it's not totally clear how to differentiate in the
                    case of a stock ... or do you mean some vague either
                    focusing on time horizon or "second order" investments
                    [calls/puts, shorts, butterflies etc].
2008/6/24-30 [Science/Space] UID:50364 Activity:nil
6/25    Fractal Distribution of Matter in the Universe:
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/5hxzlv [new scientist]
        \_ Is this new?  I think I've read something like this in some old
           issue of Scientic American.
           \_ Actually there is something like this in the current issue
              of Scientific American. I think the research isn't completely
              new, but they have made some progress on it recently.
2008/6/24-27 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:50365 Activity:low
6/24    Remember, you read it on the motd first:
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/6fylgy
        High energy prices are encouraging the return to the cities.
        \_ Yes, thank God! Please let energy price TRIPLE or more. I can't
           wait. I hope y'all suburban dumbasses with SUVs will realize that
           being irresponsible to earth is being a total dickwad to
           everyone else. Fucking pollution cancer and asthma causing
           suburban living assholes. FUCK PASADENA.
           \_ Do you really want all those suburban dumbasses living next to
              you?
2008/6/24-27 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:50366 Activity:nil 71%like:50362
6/24    Jesus in China: Christianity's rapid rise
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/4ef5k2 [chicago tribune]
        \_ Jesus H. Chicom!
           \_ Jesus just left Chicom, headed down to New Orleans...
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