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2008/6/23-24 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:50333 Activity:very high 92%like:50355
6/23    Passing out "homemade" signs at Obama rally
        http://theunfocused.blogspot.com/2008/02/passing-out-signs-at-obama-rally.html
        \_ this is about the level of me seeing a pro mccain poster on the bulletin
           board at work.  big whoop-dee-do.  stop blogging about your toast being
           burnt.
        \_ this is about the level of me seeing a pro mccain poster on
           the bulletin board at work.  big whoop-dee-do.  stop
           blogging about your toast being burnt.
        \_ Wow, look at all that FURIOUS ANGER in the comments.  This is
           awesome.
           \_ The always vitrolic and bile-filled Right actually has something
              to be upset about for once. I wonder if their heads are going
              to explode in November when O actually wins.
              \_ What do they have to be upset about again?  That they were
                 given a free reign to do anything they wanted for 5-6 years
                 and ended up destroying the economy and America's reputation?
                 \_ They are losing control of the government.
                    \_ You mean they are unable to control the BEAST!!!
                       Big government BAD BAD BAD! Starve it! Go Reagan!
                  \_ It's all Bill Clinton's fault!
                     \_ When Bill was POTUS we had a Republican Congress.
                 \_ Yes because the economy and America's reputation were
                    perfect before W.  Hint: deficits and bubbles were
                    existing problems.  And don't liberals love gas prices
                    being high?
                    \_ The argument that the absurdities of the W-Admin
                       should be forgiven because no one's perfect fails on
                       its face. In the history of !perfect, no POTUS has
                       done more to screw us up.
                       \_ Carter.
                          \_ Even Carter didn't leave our military and our
                             economy in a mess on the scale of W.
2008/6/23-27 [Recreation/Humor] UID:50334 Activity:nil Cat_by:auto
6/23    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6IQ_FOCE6I
        Oldie but goodie.  "Here Comes Another Bubble"
        \_ Pretty funny! Thanks for posting it!
        \_ Hilarious! And totally true. IPO, it's all luck. 29, past your
           prime. So sad and true. Fuck this web 2.0 shit. Any fuckhead
           from highschool can create the Zuckerman effect.
        \_ Nope, this time it is for real.
2008/6/23-24 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:50335 Activity:nil
6/23    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/opinion/20brooks.html
         "And then on Thursday, Fast Eddie Obama had his finest hour. Barack
        Obama has worked on political reform more than any other issue. He
        aspires to be to political reform what Bono is to fighting disease in
        Africa. He.s spent much of his career talking about how much he
        believes in public financing. In January 2007, he told Larry King that
        the public-financing system works. In February 2007, he challenged
        Republicans to limit their spending and vowed to do so along with them
        if he were the nominee. In February 2008, he said he would aggressively
        pursue spending limits. He answered a Midwest Democracy Network
        questionnaire by reminding everyone that he has been a longtime
        advocate of the public-financing system.
         "But Thursday, at the first breath of political inconvenience, Fast
        Eddie Obama threw public financing under the truck. In so doing, he
        probably dealt a death-blow to the cause of campaign-finance reform.
        And the only thing that changed between Thursday and when he lauded the
        system is that Obama's got more money now."
        \_ "Fast Eddie Obama"? David Brooks has valid points. Shame he's got
           such a hard-on for a Heritage Foundation sinecure.
2008/6/23-24 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:50336 Activity:nil 66%like:50356
6/22    china + africa
        http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/126/special-report-china-in-africa.html
2008/6/23 [Transportation/PublicTransit] UID:50337 Activity:kinda low
6/22    Public transit blows part deux:
        \_ If you hated part one, why did you torture yourself with
           part 2? Oh well, I guess you love being tortured.
        So I am in Boston for the week. My hotel is near downtown. I decided
        that since there is a 'T' line right outside my hotel I would take
        \_ T has a lot of problems. You can't take an example of a bad
           mass transit and say "shit I hate all mass transits." It's
           like having a bad experience with a black man and say
           "all black men are bad." Racist.
        the train. Strike One: It takes 47 minutes to get to Beacon Hill if you
        \_ After strike one, you should STOP and evaluate yourself...
           maybe you should step back and say, wait, let me THINK about
           this shitty situation for a while BEFORE I rely on it further.
           What a dumb ass! HAHAHHA you deserved what you got.
        plan your trip so that you don't wait for trains. It can't be more
        than a few miles away, but you have to take a train to hell and
        back to transfer to another train. So I took a cab. Strike Two:
                                        \_ cab is the best thing. Cab,
                                           is always >>> mass transit
                                           except for cost. That's true
                                           anywhere in the world, provided
                                           that you can pay for it.
                                           \_ This is untrue.  I got where
                                              I was going much faster in
                                              Wash. DC using the train:
                                              cabs are in *traffic*.
                                              The Metro is *not*.  My
                                              destination/source were
                                              Metro-friendly.  I concede
                                              that generally cabs could be
                                              superior, but your claim of
                                              "always" is false.
                                           \_ The best thing is to have a
                                              private car with driver,
                                              catering to your every whim.
                                              This is what I do in poor
                                              countries, but can't afford here.
        \_ Try taking a cab in LA. Har har har.
           \_ I don't get it. LA has plenty of cabs.
              \_ So how come I've never seen a cab in Woodland Hills,
                 where I grew up? And South Pasadena? Dumb ass.
        I took the 'T' to Cambridge. It's *supposed* to be a 30 minute
        \_ Again, you need to hang out with a local to understand why
           things don't go the way it's *supposed* to, because in the
           real world, in practice, it is different than theory. DUH!!!
        train ride to go 2.5 miles. Again, that's if you plan your trip to
        coincide exactly with the arrival of a train. You have to transfer
        once. Well, what I got was the line I needed to transfer to being
        closed and everyone herded onto a bus with a belligerent drunk who
        \_ Yeah if you don't like people, don't take mass transit. No
           one is forcing you to take it. Dumb ass.
        the bus driver eventually threw off the bus for being a nuisance
        \_ bus != real mass transit. It is a bandaid to a more serious problem
           \_ Yes, ignore the mass transit you don't like.
        (he was cussing in front of kids, grabbing people, and eventually
        threatened to strangle someone). Then we got on another train line.
        My total cost was $10 per person round trip. Oh, yes, I can't wait to
        \_ Good, you deserve it. Now stay in LA and drive in your smoggy
           city for heaven's sake.
        take public transit again. It is so much cheaper, more convenient,
        and pleasant than driving. My drive out to Cape Cod went well,
                                \_ Cape Cod has a lot of nice people.
                                   And they're gay, and want your ass.
        \_ you're more than welcome to drive in Boston or NYC. Good luck.
           If you're skilled enough to drive, then drive. Obviously, you're
           not skilled enough to take the mass transit. I mean, if you take
           a New Yorker (who normally doesn't drive) and stick him in
           Los Angeles, what would he have to say about driving? Probably
           as much praise as you give to mass transits. You're as dumb
           as your trolls.
        though. $20 in gas to drive by myself 200 miles in air conditioned
        comfort and incontrol of my own itinerary. Imagine that. Next chance
                \_ Oh, yeah, THE 110 and THE 405 are very comfortable. Good one
        for public transit will be to go to the Museum of Fine Art. I am
        anxiously awaiting to see what Strike Three is because I won't
        count being passed by in Berkeley seeing as a bus is not public
        transit. Only high-speed Euro-style rail from LA to Las Vegas
        counts as public transit.
        \_ Obviously, you're a mass transit newbie. You'll get the
           hang of it, but not in 1-2 days. It's a good time to hang out
           with the locals to get to know the nuances of scheduling and
           getting around. You'll get it, trust me. It's an acquired
           taste. Not for newbies, but in time, you'll get used to it.
           Trust me! Automobile is like candies and mass transit is like
           cigarettes, you'll get a taste for it in time. Good luck!
        \_ Why not take your car to the Museum of Fine Art and tell us how
           it goes?
           \_ I've driven in Boston twice now. It's a pain. I prefer it to
              mass transit and I will drive a lot more than I planned
              based on my experiences so far. If I ever go back to
              Cambridge I will definitely drive there. Also, there's a
              rstaurant in Beacon Hill I want to try. I will drive there,
              too. Apparently the best way to get around is by cab. Is a
              cab considered mass transit? I will be in Manhattan in a
              week and I plan on taking cabs there and never touching the
              mass transit.
        \- i have never taken muni in the ~5yrs i have lived in SF and even
           *i* took the T in Boston [even when on expense account so no
           cost to parking, rental etc]. although i walked to the MFA.
           if you go to the MFA see the excellent Dante and Vergil "buddy
           movie' bronze. there is also some total fraud there like this:
           http://tinyurl.com/3zjucq and the stuff like the RRAUSCHENBERG
           cardboard boxes.
           \_ I took it, too, but my experiences have sucked. Having the
              police come to cart a crazy guy off of a bus that you
              weren't supposed to take except that the line you needed
              closed unexpectedly tends to ruin the experience.
              \_ Yeah, I can see how that might tend to ruin it for you.
                 I have riding transit in the Bay Area for 15 years and have
                 only seen anything like that a few times. Do you imagine that
                 you are safer on the bus or in your car?
        \_ Misanthropes should probably not ride transit, if they can avoid it.
           \_ Well, that's the problem with mass transit. Anyone can and
              does ride it.
        \_ http://www.csua.org/u/lsg  (www2.actransit.org)
           "In the face of rising gasoline prices, AC Transit is experiencing
           a boom in ridership. Particularly impressive has been the Transbay
           service where passenger levels have shown tremendous increases
           since December-- including by more than 50 percent on one line."
2008/6/23-27 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Science/GlobalWarming] UID:50338 Activity:nil
6/23    WTF? McCain actually talking sense about energy issues?
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/3pyo7g (cnn.com)
        \_ Voted for it before he voted against it.
           \_ Umm... This is pretty much in line with McCain historically.
              What are you talking about?
           \_ Not that this necessarily applies here but I think changes
              of position/flip flopping aren't inherently bad and screaming
              about a particular flip flop is just stupid.  Only complete
              morons never reconsider things.  If it happens all the time
              or is hypocritical/insincere that's another thing...
        \_ A fine idea. I hope President Obama adopts it during his first term.
           Actually, that would be superb: McCain as Energy Secretary.
2008/6/23-24 [Recreation/Dating] UID:50339 Activity:nil
6/23    give this to your wife, motd not getting laid guy
        http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/23/europe/virgins.php
        \_ Was there such an option for women in Ancient China?
2008/6/23 [Computer/Domains] UID:50340 Activity:nil 75%like:50347 75%like:50354
6/23    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7468855.stm
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2008/6/23-27 [Recreation/Shopping] UID:50341 Activity:nil
6/23    I lost enough weight in the past year that my suit is now too big for
        me, even in the shoulder section.  Is this something a tailor can fix
        or should I buy a new suit?  If it can be fixed, any recommendations
        on a tailor in SF area?
2008/6/23-27 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:50342 Activity:low
6/23    CIA asks NYTimes not to release identity of KSM interrogator, NYTimes
        does anyway.
        http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/22/washington/web22ksmnote.html
        \_ and?
        \_ Do you think it is the responsibility of The Press to co-operate
           with the Secret Police?
           \_ Within reasonable limits yes.  This was not reasonable and so
              the NYT didn't feel the need to cooperate.
              \_ Thanks, Valerie Plame.
              \_ To be more specific than the above: do you think it was ok to
                 "out" VP?  If not, then why was this ok?  What was the news
                 value in outing this person?
                 \_ According to the article, "Mr. Martinez had never worked
                    under cover and that others involved in the campaign
                    against Al Qaeda have been named in news stories and
                    books." Outing an under cover CIA agent is different from
                    printing the name of a publicly known CIA agent who
                    tortured Khalid Shaikh Mohammed.
                    \_ Ah, you didn't read the article.  This agent never used
                       torture.  Thanks for playing.
                       \_ Ah, you got me there: he didn't torture KSM. That
                          said, he's still not under cover. It's not the same.
                          Thanks for playing. (And here's the original article
                          for those playing at home:
                          http://preview.tinyurl.com/6pc49k )
                          \_ You can't go up 20 lines?
                          Thanks for playing.
2008/6/23-27 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:50343 Activity:nil
6/23    The Iraqi security forces really had nothing better to do than spending
        all that time to set up this photo op:
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/5db4nk (Yahoo! News Photos)
        \_ Unless they're cataloging all those weapons.  And of course, public
           relations has *nothing* to do with police/army work.
2008/6/23-27 [ERROR, uid:50344, category id '18005#11.33' has no name! , ] UID:50344 Activity:nil
6/23    http://preview.tinyurl.com/4948pq
        Let the Swift Boating begin!
        \_ Conservatives are STRONG!
        \_ Oh sweet, an entire book of recycled innuendo and guilt by
           association! I can't wait.
        \_ Swift Boating?  You mean when real vets slam a liar who claims
           military experiences he didn't have?
           \_ Wow, still attached to those lies eh?
              \_ Yeah, we all know Nixon was president in '68.
2008/6/23-27 [Uncategorized] UID:50345 Activity:nil
6/23    How can I somehow link Obama Inc. to Stalin starving the Ukraine
        into eating their fellow citizens during the famine?
2008/6/23-27 [Uncategorized] UID:50346 Activity:nil
6/23    God in heaven invented movies with nude scenes with Amanda Seyfried
2008/6/23-27 [Computer/Domains] UID:50347 Activity:nil 75%like:50340 75%like:50354
6/23    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7468855.stm
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2008/6/23 [Uncategorized] UID:50348 Activity:nil 60%like:50330
6/22    RIP George Carlin

        a shotgun a year ago?
        http://youtube.com/watch?v=T87-H6RgjRI
        \_ I assume this is all admissable in court?
        \_ holy crap this is amazing.
        \_ I can't youtube from here.  What's it say?
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