Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2008:June:19 Thursday <Wednesday, Friday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2008/6/19-20 [Science/GlobalWarming, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:50297 Activity:nil 75%like:50317
6/19    Dumbest liberal evar!
2008/6/19-23 [Computer/SW/Languages/Python] UID:50298 Activity:nil
6/19    Any reason why Python's random.randint() is 10X slower than
        random.random() (returns 0-1.0)?
        \_ Use the source, Luke. random() is basically a single operation
           implemented in C, whereas randint() is a non-negligible amount
           of Python code.
           \_ Thanks! Where can I find the source?
              \_ Umm, you're kidding, right? If not, here's a hint:
                 Python is open source software.
2008/6/19-24 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:50299 Activity:nil
6/19    Where can I find Linux source code's implementation of rand/srand?
        \_ On Linux you can also use /dev/random
        \_ The source code for that would be ni the glibc source. -ERic
2008/6/19-22 [Computer/SW/OS] UID:50300 Activity:nil
6/19    ???
Broadcast message from root@soda (pts/52) (Thu Jun 19 12:40:38 2008):

Minor kernel upgrade requires reboot
The system is going DOWN for reboot in 5220 minutes!
        \_ Yes, apparently we'll be seeing these messages for the next 4 days.
           \_ Would prefer a more immediate reboot....
2008/6/19-24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:50301 Activity:nil
6/19    Any comments on Firefox 3?  Does it live up the promise?
        \_ I want to like it but safari ui still looks so much nicer
        \_ No it's too stupid. It's got features no one would use. Just
           look at the multi-tab feature. Why would anyone ever want to
           use multiple tabs? I don't use it, and no one should either.
        \_ It does seem to be better at not leaking memory / over-caching
           stuff so far. Other than that, I'm not noticing any really
           significant usability differences. I'm not sure what's so awesome
           about the "awesome bar" yet, but maybe it'll become clearer later.
           \_ What's awesome is it is fucking obnoxious and never seems to
              find the pages I want unless I already told it that I was
              interested in that page.  Gee, thanks.
        \_ I just want 2.x without the huge memory leaks.
2008/6/19-24 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:50302 Activity:nil
6/19    "In South Africa, Chinese is the New Black" (
        \_ Is anyone else here an "honorary white?"
2008/6/19-24 [Academia/Berkeley, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:50303 Activity:nil
6/20    ZombieTime has a little bit on the tree-sit removal.
        \_ Its about fucking time man.  This tree camping thing has gone way
           too long.  Also, they have gone from political statement to
           public nuisance.  You don't need to hit police officers with your
           shit in order to make a political statement.
2008/6/19-27 [Uncategorized] UID:50304 Activity:nil
6/19    Looking for a nice wireless keyboard. How's the DiNovo?
2008/6/19-23 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:50305 Activity:nil
6/19    High gasoline prices accelerating return to the cities: (SF Gate)
           Reading SF Gate + Atlantic is like reading Kunstler's rants.
           CITY GOOD SUBURB BAD! Fucking hippies. Pasadena rules!!!
           \_ This article is amusing, but unlikely. Why would China want to
              collapse the American economy? This would be like a crack dealer
              shooting his best customer.
2008/6/19-23 [Recreation/Dating, Uncategorized/Profanity, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:50306 Activity:nil
6/19    worst thing ever.  smurf sex.  NSFW etc.
        \_ I watched all of that now I have permanent brain damage.  thx a lot
           \_ I hope you watched it with your sound on.
           \_ you were warned.  -!op
2008/6/19-23 [Transportation/PublicTransit] UID:50307 Activity:moderate
6/19    Heard this on KNX LA radio: Overall CA automobile usage has gone
        down about 1.5% from 2007 to 2008. Los Angeles and S Cal in
        general did not notice any change.
        \_ Uh, what has LA's population done in that time?
        \_ LA values personal freedom. I devote a very high % of my income
           to not have to take public transit. I'm glad it works for you.
           I hate it. Last time I was in the Bay Area I waited 30 minutes
           for a bus on San Pablo in El Cerrito and when it showed up the
           driver blew right by me without stopping even as I waved and
           ran to the curb (I was sitting in the kiosk) and the bus wasn't
           even 10% full. I guess you think this is acceptable. I don't.
           \_ I totally agree with you. Riding with people and waiting
              together is COMMUNISM. People in N Cal are closet COMMUNISTS.
              \_ Thank you for adding zero content to this thread.
           \_ I think you were passed by one of those Rapid Line buses.
              They only stop at certain intersections, about every .5 i think.
           \_ I think you were passed by one of those Rapid Line buses.  They\
             only stop at certain intersections, about every .5 i think.
              only have stops
              \_ Maybe, although the number of the bus was the one I needed.
                 This is another problem with public transit as it exists
                 in the US: the schedules are not posted at most of the
                 stops and when they are they are often out of date. Maybe
                 wireless devices will make this less of an issue soon. I
                 took public transit (BART, AC Transit and other buses, MUNI,
                 etc.) and while it worked fine it usually (with some
                 exceptions like to Oakland Coliseum) took much longer to
                 get where I needed to go. This is true in LA, too. I can
                 take Gold Line and get there in 2 hours or I can drive
                 and be there in 20 minutes - 30 with parking.
                 \_ The answer is stunningly simple: don't live so far from
                    where you "need to go" and you won't have this problem.
           \_ I used to live near San Pablo and worked in Emeryville, getting
              on the 72 RAPID was pretty sweet.  better than a rollercoaster
              at Great America with AC Transit's new Dutch buses that throw
              old ladies everywhere, but that's another story.
           \_ Last time I was in LA, I drove a rental car from LAX to my
              aunt's house in Riverside. It took me over 3 hours to go
              70 miles. I guess you think this is acceptable. I don't.
              \_ How long would it have taken you on a bus? What about
                 Metrolink? It's not much less. Overall I can get to
                 \_ His whole point was that LA really blows because it
                    lacks *REAL* mass transit systems, defined as systems
                    that work INDEPENDENTLY of the freeway infrastructures.
                    When the bridge collapsed, people could take BART.
                    But when 101/405 collapse in the future, what redundant
                    system do you have? LA totally blows. PS. Buses are
                    not real mass transit systems, mkay?
                    \_ You do remember the BART strike back in 1997, right?
                       And the 10 freeway did collapse in LA. It was back up
                       in less than a month.
                 Riverside in less than an hour unless I am unfortunate enough
                 to go during rush hour(s). Driving is much, much faster than
                 other methods 80% of the time and probably equivalent 10%
                 of the time leaving only about 10% of the time where I'd
                 even bother with transit. And then once at your aunt's
                 what happens when you need to go somewhere? Wait another
                 45 minutes for a bus and then transfer to another one and
                 then walk 5 blocks with your bags. Are you kidding me?
                 That stuff works in Tokyo or NYC where it's really dense.
                 Doing that in Riverside would be stupid. You made the
                 right move even if it cost you 2 hours up front.
                 \_ You are right, in LA I have no choice. Apparently you
                    think that is acceptable. I don't.
2008/6/19-23 [Reference/Religion] UID:50308 Activity:nil
6/19    remember when a black muslim allegedly shot an oakland journalist with
        a shotgun a year ago?
        \_ I assume this is all admissable in court?
        \_ holy crap this is amazing.
        \_ I can't youtube from here.  What's it say?
2008/6/19-23 [Science/Disaster, Science/GlobalWarming] UID:50309 Activity:low
6/19    CBS and MSNBC talk to a PhD about global warming causing more energetic
        earthquakes.  Only problem is that he's not a PhD, he's a crackpot.
        \_ Which obviously means that all white things are ducks.
           \_ Not the conclusion I was drawing.  The mainstream media is so
              enamored with global warming they'll take anyone to link anything
              to it, so they're worthless as a watchdog on the creeping
              socialism of global warming.  Either that or they're completely
              incompetent, in which case they're equally worthless. -op
              \_ Worse than worthless.  In cases of fear mongering, whether
                 of terrorist threat, or AGW, or any other boogeymen (real or
                 imagined), the press is a mostly unquestioning ampliphier
                 imagined), the press is a mostly unquestioning amplifier
                 of the self-serving line of hyperbole and nonsense coming
                 from those who wish to rule. -crebbs
                 \_ I wish to rule.  They're not amping *my* message!
2008/6/19-23 [Computer/Companies/Google, Industry/Jobs] UID:50310 Activity:nil
        Google salary sucks. It's nowhere near the $150-$200k/year
        someone claims on motd.
        \_ Google has a really nice bonus package.
        \_ I think this is a Google recruiter
        \_ yeah gotta agree there. I know google guys who's yearly bonus
           is almost my total salary.
           \_ how typical are your friends @ google?  or are you very poorly
2008/6/19-20 [Computer/Blog, Computer/SW/Apps] UID:50311 Activity:nil 85%like:50323
6/19    I love this blog
2008/6/19-23 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:50312 Activity:nil
6/19    If you have the Debian/Linux skills to be the system administrator
        for a video game company in Marina Del Rey, California. Please
        send your resume to alpo@soda.
        \_ If you want to work yourself to death, work for a video game
        \_ From my one interview at a very well known video game company,
           "I know we're paying a little below industry but it's so cool to
            work at a video game company!"  Their offer was 30% less than I
            was already making.  And it didn't look all that cool, either.
2008/6/19-23 [Finance/Investment] UID:50313 Activity:nil
6/19    If I place a limit order to buy 500 shares at $20, is it always all
        or nothing?  Meaning I will end up with 0 rather than 300 shares
        if the price doesn't stick around at $20 long enough for an order
        of 500 to be filled?  I obviously don't want to break it up into a
        lot of transactions to save on fees.
        \_ No, it is not always all or nothing, though you can usually contact
           your broker and make it that way, usually for a fee. In practice,
           they always get filled for me anyway, even if it is in a few
           \_ So you are saying I might end up with only 300 shares?
              I don't want to end up only with a really small number filled
              since then the transaction fees will swamp my gains.  Is
              this a realitic concern with a $2000-$5000 trade?
              \_ Your broker should have some kind of document that explains
                 what they do when an order is not completely filled. You
                 probably won't run into this problem if you trade stocks
                 that have reasonable volume.
2008/6/19-23 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:50314 Activity:low
6/19    "One in three IT staff snoops on colleagues: survey"
        \_ Weird, I go way way way out of my way to not snoop on coworkers.
           If I get someone to enter in a password, I look the other way.
           I want to keep out of trouble.
           If I get someone to enter in a password, I start studying the
           backside of the really hot chick in HR at the other end of the room
           so I really have no idea what their password is.  I want to keep
           out of trouble.
           \_ I do the same because I respect their privacy.
              \_ Yeah, I decided very early on in my career that I was not
                 going to abuse my priveledges to invade other's privacy. I
                 going to abuse my privileges to invade other's privacy. I
                 would fire anyone I caught doing that.
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