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| 2008/6/4-9 [Reference/Religion] UID:50148 Activity:nil |
6/4 Wow. Christians warned for preaching to Muslims, because it's a hate
crime?
http://csua.org/u/lpd
\_ "A West Midlands Police spokesman said an investigation into the
complaint had concluded that the PCSO had acted 'with the best of
intentions' when he 'intervened to diffuse a heated argument
between two groups of men'.
A statement added: 'Following this investigation, the PCSO has
been offered guidance about what constitutes a hate crime and
advice on communication style.'"
In other words, no.
\_ communist
\_ Yeah, that's what I get for reading the actual story. |
| 2008/6/4-10 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity] UID:50149 Activity:low |
6/4 In Venezuela, ratting on neighbor is the law
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/sfl-flavenez0603sbjun03,0,4071658.story
\_ Hugo Chavez: proving at every turn that scumbaggery knows no
ideological boundaries.
\_ Yeah, he's totally breaking new ground as far as communist
strongmen go...
\_ Funny. Actually, he made several improvements to the country
and he continues to do so; he's also not breaking any ground
on the Civil Liberties front.
\_ Name those improvements. He's a thug like all other thugs.
I hope you don't tell us how he made the trains run on
time.
\_ He nationalized a corrupt oil industry and funneled
at least some of the money to improving conditions for
the poorest Venezuelans.
\_ Wow, so a corrupt politician cum dictator took
property away from corrupt businesses and tossed some
breadcrumbs to the peasants. Yay! He's my friend
now!
\_ I dunno how corrupt the foreign investment of
infrastructure part of the Venezuelan oil industry
was that he nationalized. It looks like he has
embarked on a poorly planned program of massive
socialism to placate the masses and buy their
votes to keep himself in power, without thinking
of the further economic consequences. and I'm a
bleeding heart American liberal.
\_ From Wikipedia:
"By the end of the first three years of his presidency,
Chavez had initiated a land transfer program and had
introduced several reforms aimed at improving the
social welfare of the population. These reforms
entailed the lowering of infant mortality rates; the
implementation of a free, government-funded health
care system; and free education up to the university
level. By December of 2001, inflation fell to 12.3%
the lowest since 1986,[38] while economic growth was
steady at four percent.[39] Chavez's administration
also reported an increase in primary school enrollment
by one million students.[39]"
And that's about it for the good. You're right: he is a
thug. That his thuggery happened to also involve some
social improvements doesn't change that. On the plus
side, he didn't suspend the constitution after the ppl
voted down his Chavez-for-life proposal. On the minus
side, hell, just about everything else. |
| 2008/6/4-10 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:50150 Activity:nil |
6/4 jobs jobs jobs. Wavemarket in emeryville is hiring java guys.
see /csua/pub/jobs/wavemarket for description and contact email.
I'm also putting together a req. for a SysAdmin (debian mostly) or
half-SysAdmin,half-Operations person. You can contact me directly
if you, or someone you know, is interested in that. -crebbs
\_ What's the difference between SA and Operations Person?
\_ SA: Machines run. Operations: our software is still running
on those machines. More or less.
\_ The above is pretty good. In this case the primary difference
is that SA is working for me and the Operations job is working
for the Director of Operations. The operations part requires
more job requests from the few non-technical people we have.
Maybe running/automating reports, and that kind of thing.
(In the language of the above poster: "How is our software
running on those machines"? ) Though, there is a cross-over,
which is why it may be one person doing both jobs. -crebbs |
| 2008/6/4-8 [Recreation/Food] UID:50151 Activity:nil |
6/4 I will eat lunch today even if doing so causes the apocalypse.
\_ So did you? I dont recall any apocalypse happening an its after
lunch time.
\_ I haven't had lunch yet. --someone else |
| 2008/6/4 [Health/Women, Recreation/Dating] UID:50152 Activity:nil |
6/4 What's it going to cost (hooker)? No naked women but still NSFW
http://valleywag.com/364361/one+question-faq-whats-it-cost |
| 2008/6/4-9 [Uncategorized] UID:50153 Activity:nil |
6/4 Thus begins our cool grey goo tomorrow:
http://blog.reprap.org/2008/06/reprap-achieves-replication.html |
| 2008/6/4-10 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:50154 Activity:moderate |
6/4 Zimbabwe opposition leader has been detained by police
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7435869.stm
Goodbye, Tsvangirai; we have failed you
\_ This is sad. I'm curious though, who is 'we'? I'm not sure there's
much the West could have done about Mugabe, we don't have much
leverage left.
\_ We should have negotiated. Used diplomacy. Talked with him.
\_ http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080605/ap_on_re_af/zimbabwe_22
Diplomats attacked.
\_ This amounts to an act of war. Arrest Mugabe.
\_ Yeah, cause getting into yet another war is really what the
US needs right now.
\_ Feh. Arresting Mugabe would be somewhere between Grenada
and Panama. And we can probably count on his neighbors to
help out. Hell, just bus back all the Zimbabweans who are
in SA right now and hand them guns.
\_ And we could do it, if we weren't already over
comitted in Iraq and Afghanistan. Reason #479 why
invading Iraq was a dumb idea.
\_ Amen, brother.
\_ Invading Iraq was a dumb idea, but why the hell
should the US invade Zimbabwe? Maybe a UN force
with a strong US contigent ala Serbia I could get
behind (but I'd still be skeptical) but a US
lead invasion? Seriously?
\_ A UN force would be fine by me. -op |
| 2008/6/4-10 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iran, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:50155 Activity:moderate |
6/4 Obama promises to eliminate Iran
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSWAT00959220080604
Nevermind, Obama is ok with me now. -motd ex-Obama hater
\_ Where in the article does it mention eliminating Iran?
\_ "The danger from Iran is grave, it is real, and my goal will be
to eliminate this threat"
\_ Eliminating the threat, not eliminating the country.
\_ So, he's just going to eliminate all their military
capabilities?
\_ Eliminating a threat does not always mean bombing
back to the stone age. In fact, bombing back to the
stone age often doesn't eliminate a threat, see Iraq.
\_ So, he's going to give them WTO membership and
they'll learn to love the Jews and stop promising
to "wipe them off the map"?
\_ I didn't realize that was the only other choice.
Silly me.
\_ It is this kind of binary thinking that got us
into the mess we are in in the first place.
\_ Exactly! We should just talk with them. Use
the power of diplomacy and negotiate. The pen
is mightier than the sword. After Obama has a
chance to talk with Iran's leadership, they'll
come around and see this was all just a big
misunderstanding and it'll be just like Nixon
going to China. We don't need binary
thinking. We need Obama's fuzzy thinking.
\_ The world is more complex than you are
capable of imagining.
\_ I'm capable of quite a lot, thanks. Are
you saying we should not talk to anyone?
It is hard to tell what you're trying to
say since you said so little.
\_ Your snarkiness does not really
indicate a desire for a serious reply.
If you are actually interested in a
serious conversation about how
International Diplomacy works (when
not run by arrogant boobs, like the
current Admin) I will be happy to
have one with you. But you might be
better off picking up a copy of
Foreign Affairs first.
\_ My snarkiness? I made a statement.
Your only replies were to insult
me. You have still added nothing
to this thread. Why did you even
bother to post if you had nothing
to add?
\_ "We need Obama's fuzzy thinking"
is a statement? Do you really
believe that?
is a non-snarky statement?
Do you really believe that? The
whole paragraph was snarky.
\_ "Obama also vowed to vigorously support Israel's right to defend
itself ......". See, I told you, Obama is not black. Only a day
after he secured the Democratic nomination using support from black
people, he's already letting out his 50% whiteness.
\_ Black people hate Israel? I didn't know that sterotype.
\_ Yeah, and Latinos hating blacks is just another stereotype,
too. Yeah, really.
\_ And a politician *never* goes back on his promises, right?
\_ If we're going to go with this assumption, then I'm voting for
Obama because I like him better, no other reason.
\_ You are insane aren't you?
\_ Didn't Hillary dominate the Hispainc vote because of
racial tension between Lations and blacks?
\_ In this country, you cannot win the presidency if you
don't support the Jews. It's as simple as that.
\_ Or any other group with more that accounts for 5% or more of
the people. I'm sure you didn't intend to sound racist when
you said that.
\_ The GOP routinely wins office with less than 10% support
from Blacks, a voting block much larger than 5% of the
population. Not to detract from your main point though.
\_ This has been based, traditionally, on voter apathy
among blacks. See if this changes this year.
\_ Hello mr. clueless! |
| 2008/6/4-9 [Uncategorized] UID:50156 Activity:nil |
6/4 Weird sports merch. #3 is perfect for motd gun guys!
http://www.asylum.com/2008/06/04/wonderfully-weird-and-useless-sports-merch |
| 2008/6/4-9 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:50157 Activity:nil |
6/4 "China cordons off schools collapsed by quake"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080604/ap_on_re_as/china_earthquake
The Chinese govt's short-lived openess is over. |