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\_ Speaking of protection, I'm thinking of getting a 9mm handgun.
What is a good brand to buy? Is HK worth the extra $500 over
American brand 9mm guns? I really like German guns but wonder
why they cost a lot more.
\_ If you are getting it for protection it doesn't matter. If
you are getting it as a fetishtic totem to ward off the
boogey man and make up for your pathetic sex life, then by
all means get the best money can buy.
\_ Oh and here's a hint: you aren't getting it for protection.
\_ The only time I really wished I had a gun was when we were
hiking in the middle of nowhere and there were a bunch of
gangster looking people who kept looking at us and pointing
as if they wanted to rape the girls and kill the guys or
something. They could have easily done so if they wanted to.
Other than that, there's never been a time where
I wished I had a gun.
\_ What were gangsters doing hiking? Some sort of training
exercise?
\_ The hell I know, the were burning stinky plant things
and shouting and screaming
\_ I only dream about having a gun when people double park
their giant automobile in the middle of Gough.
\_ Is it for home defence or sport shooting? If it is for home
defence, consider a shotgun instead.
\_ There's a pistol which can chamber .410 shotgun shells.
What do you think of that as a home defense weapon?
\_ That's the Taurus Judge. It looks ideal, but on that
platform the recoil must be horrendous.
\_ I think having the shotgun look is also useful for
stopping intruders.
\_ Yes, and the sound of a pump action is instantly
recognizable. You can also load it with birdshot,
which won't go through 2 layers of drywall. The only
drawback is that the long barrel can be difficult to
manage in hallways. Hence the above-mentioned Judge.
\_ Oh boy! Sleep! That's when I'm a Viking!
\_ Oh boy! Sleep! That's where I'm a Viking!
\_ ???
\_ The insinuation appears to be that someone
here is delusional.
\_ Living a rich fantasy life, please.
\_ You have to try holding them to see if they fit your hand, etc.
My first handgun is a Beretta 92FS. I'm going to get the Beretta
PX4 Storm for regular carry (it's about half a pound lighter, and
the barrel is 1" shorter). I hate the feel of Glock, though a
lot of people swear by them. Springfield XD is a good choice as
well. S&W has put out their M&P line, but they're new enough
that they have some of the annoying CA features (mag disconnect).
\_ http://www.gun-review.com/reviews/ratingDisplay.php?reviewId=379&cat=1
\_ What do you mean by "regular carry"? I thought California's
ban on concealed weapon (handgun under your coat) makes
legalized handgun ownership less appealing than say,
other gun loving states.
\_ Not only that, but why would you want to wear a coat? It's
hot out.
\_ I have a concealed carry permit. I carry under an
untucked shirt. I can carry legally nearly anywhere in
CA.
\_ so are you like, waiting for the 0.0001% chance
that some nutso starts shooting people randomly
and you come into the picture and save everyone
and become the hero of the day?
\_ No, I think the nutjobs need to be outnumbered by
non-nutjobs with guns. -pp
\_ My wife wears a lot of jewelry and we have
to go to some bad neighborhoods to collect rent.
You do not know me. Do NOT anger me!
\_ Ah this makes a lot of sense. I'd probably
do the same in your shoes. I guess my life
is a bit overly sheltered. -pp
\_ I have not shot anyone (yet) but I have
had to draw on several delinquent renters
and a neighbor to whom I foolishly lent
money. By the way, I am ambidextrous,
so I can shoot with either or both hands.
Does andybody know if a concealed carry
Does andbody know if a concealed carry
Does anybody know if a concealed carry
permit allows me to carry two guns?
\_ Unit III is a lot more dangerous than I remember.
\_ Unit III is a lot more dangerous than I
remember.
\_ You obviously don't have a CCW. CA
allows up to 4 weapons on a permit.
\_ Your wife should not be wearing jewelry
in rough neighborhoods (duh). Are you
brandishing a firearm in an attempt to
collect a debt? If so, you are breaking
multiple laws, not just one.
\_ She has a right to wear jewelry
any where she wants. Why should
she abridge her jewelry wearing
right just because of violent
poor people? Are you even American?
Should I change out of my Rolex
before going to collect the rent?
\_ well since I am American, and
the dude with the wife and jewelry
and multiple pieces of property
motd poster doesn't exist,
I WIN.
\_ Are you Kip Macy?
\_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_carry
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs.php
Law's pretty complicated in California. It varies from
county to county, so even if you can carry it in one
city, you cannot carry it in another city. This pretty
much renders gun ownership useless unless you're willing
to break CA laws from one county to another. Better to
get a taser. Safer, easier.
\_ Completely false. A CCW permit is issued on a county
basis, but allows you to carry *anywhere* in the state.
\_ I think BART or AC Transit gets mad if you carry,
no matter what your permit says.
- ccw holder
\_ The trick is getting a CCW permit in a city
that is anti-gun.
\_ http://www.calccw.com/Forums/county-faq/1109-top-11-counties-issue-2006-a.html
Looks like S Cal residents are more gun-ho about CCW
\_ Hey, how do you like it (92FS)? I've found that it has a
tendency to jam and I find its lack of rails annoying 'cause
I can't mount a laser sight.
\_ I love the 92. I've never had a jam, and I've put about
4-5k rounds through it. I always clean it after a shooting
session. It's a bit heavy for daily carry.
\_ What sort of ammo do you use? I always clean mine,
too. Did you have any problems with the first few
hundred rounds? To be fair, it was outdoors and
blowing sandy grit when I was getting the jams.
\_ I use all FMJ or JHP.
\_ I bought a Ruger today! -op
\_ I bought a Ruger and a Glock today! -op
\_ Now I would like to get another gun for my car.
Any recommendations? I am considering the Remington870P.
Any recommendations? I was considering a tactical
Any recommendations? I am considering a tactical
shotgun. |