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| 2008/4/11 [Uncategorized] UID:49720 Activity:nil 75%like:49715 |
4/10 Please suck my libertarian balls. --Greenspan |
| 2008/4/11-16 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Finance/Investment] UID:49721 Activity:nil |
4/11 McCain campaign attacks George Soros for funding third party groups,
even though Soros has funded McCain's own causes:
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/mccain_attacked_sorosfunded_de.php
\_ What's the betting pool like for odds on McCain self-destucting
or having a stroke before the election?
\_ "I was for George Soros before I was against him" |
| 2008/4/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Aspolito] UID:49722 Activity:nil |
4/11 Hey aspolito, you should read this before engaging in anal:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24036106 |
| 2008/4/11-12 [Health/Disease/General] UID:49723 Activity:nil 54%like:49740 |
4/11 Dear lord, I want to sodomize lolita, unless she has anal cancer -aspolito
\_ Don't we all?
\_ uh, no. -gay man |
| 2008/4/11-16 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:49724 Activity:moderate |
4/11 So ummm.... Why the heck is John Yoo a prof at Boalt?
\_ Because Berekley is a great academic institution with a wide
diversity of viewpoints?
\_ Why do you ask? (I keep hearing stuff about Yoo on the motd
but I don't see why he's controversial.)
\_ He is the main author of the "torture is okey-dokey" legal
argument.
\_ Perhaps b/c he is an excellent lawyer, teacher and scholar?
I am not saying that Prof. Yoo is any of those things b/c I
do not know him. But he could be an exceptional lawyer and
teacher even if his politics are completely incompatible w/
yours. My favorite law school prof and I have quite different
political views on many things but it does not change the fact
that he is a superb lawyer and teacher.
\_ If he such a superb lawyer, why did he produce such a
wrongheaded legal opinion?
\_ I do not know why Prof. Yoo wrote the torture memo.
My experience suggests that someone asked him to
write it. That he reached a conclusion that you
\_ I did not say that Prof. Yoo was a superb lawyer.
Also, I do not know why Prof. Yoo wrote the torture
memo. My experience suggests that someone asked him
to write it. That he reached a conclusion that you
(and perhaps he also) disagree with, does not mean
that he is not a good lawyer. Clients sometimes
(often?) ask one to do support positions one thinks
are morally, though not legally, unsupportable.
(often?) ask one to find legal support for positions
one thinks are morally unsupportable. Fortunately,
sometimes the law does not offer such support. In
other situations, the law does offer the support a
client seeks. And in those case, one has no choice
client seeks. And in those cases, one has no choice
but to disclose that fact to the client.
Anyway, my point was merely that Prof. Yoo may have
qualities that qualify him for the job he holds,
abilities that qualify him for the job he holds,
desipte his political views.
[Update: I think the following blog post is
particularly relevant:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/3g96eg [legal ethics forum]]
\_ No, he is a counter-revolutionary and must be sent to the
gulags. There can be no dissent!
\_ Do you think torture is something that America should
support? Do you think that it is against the law of
the land?
\_ I personally do not think torture is something
America should support. But I do not think that
it is against the law of the land in all cases.
\_ Anyone who defends a counter-revolutionary is also
counter-revolutionary! We will root out these
traitors!
\_ At a certain point, someone has to be responsible for
ass-covering. "I was only following orders" and all that.
\_ Well, he has tenure, which should protect him from
being fired for holding unpopular opinions. But since
he apparently was primarily responsible for the US
violating the Geneva Convention, jail time is not
out of the question.
\_ I have not followed in detail the USSC's decisions
on the GC issue, but as far as I am aware, it is
not clear that the GC has been violated by BUSHCO's
actions or that a violation of the GC would imply
jail time for the principals b/c no applicable
privilege exists.
Re "following orders" - I agree that someone should
be held accountable, but why should it be Prof. Yoo
instead of those who commissioned his memo?
\_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_conspiracy
\_ It remains unclear that any law has been
broken wrt Prof. Yoo and/or those who
sought his advice and acted upon it.
Even if some crime has occured, it is
unclear that some form of executive priv.
would not apply.
\_ Do you believe the executive has the
privilege to break the law with impunity?
The Supreme Court disagrees with that.
\_ As I said, I have not followed the
USSC's decision wrt the GC. Based
on my very brief reading of the
decisions, it is unclear that any
crime has been committed by Prof.
Yoo or those who sought his advice.
It is also unclear that even if a
crime has been committed an exec.
privilege will not apply. The USSC
has not rule on this particular
issue and likely never will
("John Marshall has issued his
order now let him enforce it").
\_ Google "United States v. Nixon."
\_ It is not clear to me that
Nixon applies to this
situation. There may be
many kinds of executive
privilege and power.
\_ I think US v. Nixon is very
clear - executive priv. exists,
but it is specifically NOT
immune to judicial review,
particularly in the case
where a crime may have been
committed. I don't think there
are "many kinds" of executive
priv. - there is the kind
recognized by the courts only.
\_ It is not at all clear that
Nixon applies when the Pres.
acts in the arena of foreign
affairs or national defense,
which is the situation in
relevant to Prof. Yoo. The
Pres. inherent power may be
overriding in those realms.
[I was not using "privilege"
in the technical sense]
\_ I am doubtful of that
argument, and I believe
most legal scholars are
as well. Note that
Congress is given the
power to ratify treaties.
\_ Congress is also given
the power to declare
war, maintain a navy,
&c. so clearly there is
shared power over the
conduct of foreign
affairs and national
security. But it is
still unclear whether
the Pres. power trumps.
BUSHCO clearly believes
it does. I am not sure
they are correct. But
the argument exists.
And I believe that we
will never have an
answer.
\_ I wonder how many of the Yoo defenders were calling for that
stupid "A million little Hitler's" prof's head on a platter.
(Or some such nazi/9-11 reference)
\_ They hired him fresh out of the administration in 2004. The torture
memos weren't revealed until after that. If he were brought up on
charges as a contributor to undermining and violating the Convention
Against Torture and war crimes, could he lose his tenure then?
I was very happy to see him on talk show right after he was hired.
A prominent conservative from Berkeley! Now I'd like to see him in jail.
\_ Absolutely, COMRADE! Those who write or speak statements that
WE the PEOPLES disagree with shall be imprisoned! The FIRST
AMENDMENT only protects POPULAR speach WE like! Excuse me,
COMRADE, I must now march on our ENEMIES, the TERRORISTS of
EURASIA. Up with the REVOLUTION, COMRADE!
\_ Uh, is the criminal or incompetent practice of law a first amendment
issue? Surely there are standards about whether an argument is a good
faith effort or a load of legal bullshit, with no evidence or
justification in US jurisprudence. Writing legal opinions
to justify the use of torture makes you a party to violating our
own laws, and treaties against torture and war crimes to which the US
is a signatory.
That's why he's in the news. Because his classified memos are
finally coming out -- those upon which Gitmo and the Padilla
confinement are based -- and they are laughable, to the point of
malpractice.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/4q74q
\_ 404 Not Found
http://preview.tinyurl.com/4q74qt
Bush: "We had legal opinions that enabled us to do it."
\_ Bush will pardon the whole lot of them. |
| 2008/4/11-12 [Transportation/Airplane] UID:49725 Activity:moderate |
4/11 Dear free market people, what do you think about the government's
involvement in regulating the airline industry?
\_ Some regulations are a good thing, like minimum safety standards.
However, crashes are bad for business and I'm sure the free
market could do the job just as well. There are airlines lots
of people still won't fly based on incidents that happened
decades ago.
\_ and you think that's efficient?
\_ TRUST THE INVISIBLE HAND! |
| 2008/4/11-12 [Uncategorized] UID:49726 Activity:kinda low |
4/11 "Spanish Parents Faking Divorce For School Spots"
link:www.yahoo.com/s/855121
\_ Purebred Spanish, non-Mexican women are really hot. Nice
hair, nice figures, homely face.
\_ You know "homely" generally implies not hot, right?
\- depends what country you are in. in indian homely =
like to cook and kinda domestic ... as opposed to
go out discos ad bars
\_ On the motd, we (mostly) speak American English.
\_ Daily perusal does not offer evidence in support of
this theory. |
| 2008/4/11-12 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:49727 Activity:kinda low |
4/11 So we now know that Ds not only want a minimum wage, but a maximum as
well. Would that apply to the Clintons?
\_ Well obviously. What are they doing making over $10 an hour?
\_ What the hell are you blathering about? You might want to increase
the dosage on your medication.
\_ google 'obama CEO pay'
\_ I see that he says that shareholders should set CEO pay.
Don't you agree?
\_ I don't see what leglislators have to do with it, or what
requiring publicly traded companies to have shareholders
make a nonbinding resolution would accomplish.
\_ Legislators are allowed to have opinions, too. In fact,
they are often expected to have opinions about
controversial topics of the day, like CEO compensation.
Repeal the First Amendment if that disturbs you so much. |
| 2008/4/11-16 [Finance/Banking, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:49728 Activity:nil |
4/11 Countrywide 12 month CD is 4.25%. But some people tell me they're
going out of business. Is it actually safe to deposit into
Countrywide right now? Will FDIC pay me the full amount + interest
should it ever goes out of business?
\_ Are you really that concerned about 4.25%? I could see if it
was 7% or something. How much more is that than the next best
rate you can find? Anyway, the Countrywide web site says that
is it is FDIC insured. FDIC will pay principal plus accrued
interest up to a total of $100,000.
\_ I'm putting down $20,000. Most rates are 3.00%, so by
putting into Countrywide I'll gain an extra 1.25% interest
rate or $250.00/year. That'll get me 2 good Chez Paniz
meals. I'll take it. -op
\_ Only if you eat by yourself and don't order wine, especially
after tax. How long will it take for you to recover your
money from Uncle Sam? Is $250 pretax really worth the risk?
\_ Patelco CU ( http://patelco.org ) is having a new member special
right now. 6.785% for 12 month CD. Existing members also
have a special rate of 4% 12 month CD for new monies.
\_ It says maximum amount of money you can put for 7%
is $1000.00. UH DUH.
\_ Ah, didn't see that the maximum is also $1000. Sorry
about that. |
| 2008/4/11-16 [Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:49729 Activity:low |
4/11 New UN Human Rights Appointee is a 9/11 truther
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/04/020272.php
\_ The new UN Human Rights council is worse than the old. They passed
8 or more resolutions against Israel, and _nothing_ else. Nothing on
Darfur, nothing on Zimbabwe, nothing on China.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMEw0lZ3k_Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhWgZu6tcZU
\_ Yes, because that's what happens when you create an .org like
the UN that treats dictators, thugs, theocrats and other forms
of human trash like real people and give them votes on anything.
Want to do some good in the world? Shoot all those guys. If
their replacements are just as bad, keep shooting. They'll get
the message after a few funerals. Instead we treat them like
royalty. As if they were legitimate leaders.
\_ I'd like to shoot some people that I think suck too. Let's
start with you. Then the rest of your family!
\_ If me and my family were mass murdering butchers then I'd
say go ahead. Since we're not and the people I'm talking
about are, how about you try again? Or better yet, don't
bother since your first response was so lame.
\_ The UN is all mass murdering butchers? Who, precisely,
has the UN murdered?
\_ You = reading failure. We've already covered the
UN staff cashing in on the global sex slave trade,
but if you had actually read the this thread you'd
know it was specifically about the UN HRC. Try
again. The UN itself is responsible for deaths
by inaction, not specifically murder but you don't
really care about that either, you just want to
play rhetorical gotcha games (and lose).
\_ It is not my fault that you are incoherent. The
reason your words are so confusing is because your
thinking is so muddled. I will give you a second
chance to answer the question: who, specifically,
do you think is a mass murdering butcher?
I assume from some of your rant above that
do you think is responsible for mass murdering
people? I assume from some of your rant above that
you think that these people are on the UN HRC.
Who are you talking about? Can you even name one
of them? |
| 2008/4/11-16 [Computer/SW/Graphics] UID:49730 Activity:nil |
4/11 Anyone here edit home movies? I've started doing that lately
and am now wondering what to do with all the raw footage (both
the video tapes and the mpg version of all them). I have
edited, shorter versions of them showing the key scenes, but
the pack rat in me wants to keep all the raw footage. Thanks. |
| 2008/4/11-16 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:49731 Activity:low |
4/11 Zombie Time piece on the SF Olympic protests
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/zombie-chronicles-the-olympic-torch-relay-in-san-francisco
This is seriously a great piece. Even if you usually hate Zombie
check this one out.
\_ That was actually reasonable, even though I usually don't like ZT.
\_ Kind of funny - but isn't a guy who spends so much time photographing
and obsessing over something he hates and loathes (protesters) kind
of sad?
\_ zombie time is not 'one guy'. it's definitely several people.
my theory is its former berkeley campus republicans.
\_ Isn't someone who posts without RTFA kind of sad?
\_ I did RTFA. The guy is a mouthbreather and so are his
commenters.
\_ Umm... then you didn't comprehend? For one thing, this
post isn't really funny. You appear to have missed the
entire point of the article. Who's the mouthbreather?
\_ What do you mean? "Stamp out Lou Gehrig's Disease?"
"Another Alcoholic for a Free Tibet?" Shit is funny.
The mouthbreathers are Zombie Time and his freeper
readers.
\_ Wow, it's like you're pround of shooting yourself
down.
\_ Wow, it's like you didn't read the article that
you posted.
\_ Now shoot the other foot!
\_ So you don't think the article is in any
way funny? You think this shit is deadly
serious? Really? You never laughed once?
\_ zombietime cracked me up with his
"wild eyed communist" remark, but usually
he is too dogmatic to be really funny.-!pp
\_ zombietime is usually too dogmatic
to be funny, but this is really good
stuff. -!pp
\_ Yeah, it's comedy gold. I don't know
what "shoot yourself" guy's problem
is.
\_ Uh, did you laugh at *all* of it?
Some of it was funny, some of it was
dead serious. If you can't see
anything serious about it then
sth is probably wrong with you.
Also, the guy who said
the author "hates and loathes
(protestors)" is flat out wrong
and either did not read the
text or is mentally deficient.
\_ From the text a little more than
halfway down the page:
"Because of this I ended up on
the same side as people whom I
normally loathe."
\_ That referred to anti-
Israel protesters, not the
protestors in general.
\_ Ahhh, excessive parsing!
I'm amused that you
accused ME of lacking
reading comprehension,
and then willfilly
ignore a very clear
sentence in the article.
When the sentence is
pointed out to you,
you try to dodge by
incorrectly parsing
the meaning of the
sentence. The "guy"
was used as an example.
Face it, "Zombie Time"
is a mouthbreather on
a site full of
mouthbreathers. I'm no
fan of professional
protesters either, but
I'm certainly not going
to write Homeric photo
essays about them.
\_ Are you serious? Go
look at that paragraph
again. "for the most
part sympathized with
the causes of the
protesters". Christ.
Axe-grinders rarely have
anything really interesting
to say. |
| 2008/4/11-16 [Computer/SW/Apps] UID:49732 Activity:nil |
4/11 Hilarious photoshop disasters.
http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com |
| 2008/4/11-16 [Recreation/Pets] UID:49733 Activity:nil |
4/11 Women infected with t. gondii toxoplasma spent more money on clothes
and were consistently rated as more attractive. We found they
were more easy-going, more warm-hearted, had more friends and
cared more about how they looked, he said. However, they were
also less trustworthy and had more relationships with men.
http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/001675.html |
| 2008/4/11-16 [Uncategorized] UID:49734 Activity:nil |
4/11 Video of Paul Volcker's speech:
http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2008/04/volckers-speech.html
\_ He has some good points but he's one of the worst public
speakers I've seen. I think I'll save the links for times when
I need to fall asleep quickly. |
| 2008/4/11-16 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:49735 Activity:moderate |
4/11 Did Obama just shoot himself in the foot? I am an Obama supporter,
but this statement seems like a political mistake to me.
http://www.csua.org/u/l9l (newsday)
\_ Oh bullshit. You are not an Obama supporter and everyone knows it.
\_ No, I really am an Obama supporter. I even voted for him in
the primaries.
\_ The guy is going to make a lot of political mistakes. He is
incredibly green.
\_ Holy cow, I guess he just insulted 1/2 of America. I guess
this is why McCain is going to win.
\_ I could be wrong, but I don't think 1/2 of America lives in
rural areas.
\_ FWIW, Obama's response to the all of the "umbrage"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc9PepjyDow
\_ He is pretty slick.
\_ I think what you wanted to say was that he's a SASSY NIGGER,
didn't you?
\_ Yawn. How many times are we going to have to see this lame
troll this election? FAIL.
\_ Sigh. Modern politics just reminds me of the trial scene in
Idiocracy.
\_ I knew enough about McC and HRC to not like either so I was
looking at Obama back in January/February. But now that I know
more about him I think he's the worst of the three for the country
and I *really* don't like the other two. This statement shows
what he really thinks and it is ugly.
\_ What about his statement do you disagree with so strongly?
Try the response video on youtube linked above, too.
\_ It was definitely a political error. Calling a broad swath of
people "bitter" and saying they "cling to guns or religion...
anti-immigrant or anti-trade" makes it sound like those aren't
valid opinions to have; that they are desperate fools. His
subsequent response framed it differently: saying that they
focus on those things because "they can't count on Washington"
for economic or other problems. It's a clever response but
it has a different twist than the original statement.
Clearly he didn't intend for his remarks to a liberal SF
audience to be seen by the "bitter" people themselves.
Barack admits mistake:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm
\_ I actually agree with his remark and I was raised in a
small town, but I think it was dumb of him to voice it. -op
\_ He regrets the remark, but he didn't apologize for it.
\_ Worse than HRC? Really? i don't know if I'd go that far.
I would say Hillary has the same elitest views, coupled with
distain for democracy and voters that I find appalling. See
her attempts to get the Michigan delegates seated and her
continuing Bosnia delusions. What makes you think Obama is
worse? -Obama is a racist guy
\_ Yes worse than HRC and I *really* loathe her. Here's how I
see it:
HRC: same dysfunctional war room self-induced crisis/fuckup
of the week for 4-8 years but that's 99% their internal
problems and doesn't truly hurt the country in a real way over
the long haul.
BHO: true believer in socialism, hates our allies, loves our
enemies, no clue at all about half the country's needs/desires
and most similar in my mind to Jimmy Carter, worst president
ever.
Given how the election is going, it looks like BHO gets the
party nod and goes up again McC and gets crushed because quite
frankly BHO is even more distant from real people than McC
and has another 6+ months to say more stupid things.
McC: not (R), nor (D), nor (I), he represents the (Selfish)
party. Self aggrandising, nearly as criminal as BHO and HRC
in his financial dealings, no guiding philosophy other than
getting his name in the paper, the Presidency would just be
a huge ego trip.
I don't know who I'm voting for in November but it won't be
any of these losers. IMO, no matter who you vote for (of
these three), you're voting based on lesser-evil, as none of
them has a single good idea in their head. If anything
positive comes from the next President (no matter who) it will
be a case of the broken clock being right twice a day. I
guess by my own words, HRC is the least worst and wow does it
make me ill to say that.
\_ So who is your ideal candidate?
\_ My ideal candidate wassn't in the race. It sure as hell
isn't Pat Buchanan. This whole election cycle is a
wash.
\_ When wasn't it a wash? Did you think that Dubya would
make a good president? How about Kerry? Gore? Clinton?
\_ Patrick Buchanan
\_ Le sigh.
\_ So is he an ANGRY SCARY NEGRO or is he an OUT OF TOUCH IVORY TOWER
LATTE SIPPING ELITIST? Which is it, please?
\_ Both.
\_ Wow, I guess angry and partisan doesn't have to make sense,
huh? Just go with your feelings, Luke.
\_ Huh? Which of those things you listed are mutual
exclusive? You don't think someone can be and angry scary
elitist? That's how I'd define a lot of people I met in
elitist? That's how I'd describe quite a few people I met in
Berkeley. -!pp
exclusive? You don't think someone can be an angry scary
elitist? That's how I'd describe quite a few people I met
in Berkeley. -!pp |
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