Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2008:March:18 Tuesday <Monday, Wednesday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2008/3/18-21 [Computer/SW/Mail] UID:49483 Activity:nil
3/18    I would like to ask for help exporting my mail from outlook. I tried
        using File->Import and Export->Export to a file but that either
        did not work (PST usage is disabled on this computer) or didn't bring
        along attachments. Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks.
        \_ Check google.  There's a bunch of free and cheap tools out there.
           There's one in particular I can't recall right now but I'll post
           if I remember it later.
2008/3/18-21 [Recreation/Dating] UID:49484 Activity:moderate
        "While there are no official statistics on the size of Hong Kong's sex
        industry, experts say there are at least 100,000 women working at any
        given time, ..."
        How can a city of 7M people (male and female, all ages) possibly
        support an active workforce of 100K female workers?  Even if every
        single adult male uses such service once a month, it's still pretty bad
        business.  Are most of those workers starving?
        \_ Tourism? Works for Amsterdam.
        \_ "Sex worker" includes peep shows, strip clubs, etc.
        \_ It's the invisible hand at work!
        \_ Let's say 1/4 of those people visit prostitutes for their
           satisfaction and they each average two visits a week. That is
           5 visits to each prostitute a day, plenty to keep them busy!
        \_ If half of the adult males visit prostitutes twice a week each,
           that would give each prostitute five clients a day to service.
           That seems like enough to keep them busy, don't you think?
        \_ There are more asians in the world than anyone else.  They're always
           \_ they say that the pretty ones are icy and the ugly ones
              are very very horny. there are biological proof on this.
              \_ This is true of all women. Why would you put out more
                 than you have to? It's also why really pretty women are
                 also usually bad in bed. If you want a woman who enjoys
                 sex and wants to have sex then date a fat chick.
                 \_ agree. fat ones are the best in best.
                    \_ A pregnant chick might be better.
                 \_ Wrong.  The hot sexy ones just won't have sex with YOU.
2008/3/18-21 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:49485 Activity:nil
3/18    I can't believe how zippy FF3 beta is and how small of a memory
        footprint it takes even after 1 day. It renewed my faith in Firefox.
        My only complaint would be not having the Firebug plug-in, but that
        will be worked out in time.
        \_ Firebug 1.1 worked as of FF3b2.  Does it not work with FF3b4?  I
           should warn you that performance and memory footprint may turn to
           crap once you install Firebug. -dans
2008/3/18-21 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Reagan] UID:49486 Activity:high
3/18    Full text of Obama's "pastor" speech.  Whatever else you might think,
        this is moving stuff.  I guess you can either choose to believe it
        or not.
        \_ Not only do I not think it's moving, I think it's a cynical
           \_ That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.  However, I think
              the bulk of people who would consider voting for Obama at all
              will consider it brave, principled, and devout.  He may be doomed
              by the Idiocracy that only thinks in 5 second sound bites,
              but he probably would never win with these folks anyway.  Whether
              they may make up 50% + 1 of the electorate remains to be seen.
           \_ My original response to you was nuked.  On the assumption that
              it wasn't you that nuked it, let me ask, in what way did you find
              it cynical, exactly?
        \_ He will make a great President. My father still talks about JFK
           and how much me moved a generation, we are going to finally see
           and how much he moved a generation, we are going to finally see
           something similar: a man of great charima, passion and intergrity
           something similar: a man of great charima, passion and integrity
           who is going to move America in a new and better direction.
           \_ But... but... he's black!  You know that those people are
              all lazy shifty criminals who hate the white people and want
              payback!  My god, HE HATES AMERICA!  AND SO DO YOU!
           \_ I just got back from a two-week vacation in Australia. Every
              conversation longer than five minutes that I had with Aussies
              turned to the US Dem Primaries. There's a lot of hope/interest
              in Obama, even abroad. --erikred
              \_ Fortunately the rest of the world does not vote for our
                 \_ Your statement is difficult to unpack. Are you suggesting
                    that it is fortunate that the rest of the world does not
                    vote for our leaders, that it is fortunate that the rest
                    of the world has no say in the choosing of our leaders, or
                    that despite his popularity abroad, Americans are unlikely
                    to elect Obama?
                    \_  All three.  I don't see a difference between A&B which
                        is what I meant when I posted, but C is also true, but
                        not because he is or is not popular with the rest of
                        the world.  Americans as a whole don't vote on that
                        basis.  The reason it is fortunate that non-citizens
                        do not vote is they would obviously vote for someone
                        best for their own country, not ours.  I think it goes
                        without saying (although I'm saying it :)) that an
                        elected official in any office should represent the
                        interests of the voters/citizens, not random people
                        from some other country who have their own government
                        and election system.
                        \_ *shrug* I don't see how my initial statement that
                           there's a lot of hope/interest in Obama, even
                           abroad, led to your statement. Perhaps I'm just
                           still jetlagged. --erikred
                           \_ We'll try again later.
                        \_ After six years of Freedom Fries and calling our
                           allies names, our reputation abroad could use
                           some improvement.
                           \_ You're confused.
                              \_ What do you imagine that I might be confused
                                 about? Do you think that our reputation abroad
                                 has gone up under The Decider? Do you think
                                 that our declining reputation is a good
           \_ Historically JFK seems to have been a pretty poor president.
              See "A Legacy of Ashes."
              \_ I agree. Ronald Reagan is our hero.
              \_ Not sure I agree entirely, since he only had 3 years in which
                 to work before he was shot.  He did inspire a generation to
                 service and to get to the Moon.  He did well in the Cuban
                 Missile Crisis, the closest we ever came to full on nuclear
                 war with Russia (imagine if LBJ had been prez for that).
                 Then again, he did get us further into Vietnam.  Hard to
                 \_ And he made it ok to go outside without a hat.  That alone
                    is worth being a hero.
                    \_ It would be nice if people wore more hats. It's
                       also good for us guys with thinning hair.
                 \_ So you think that last year would've been pivotal?  Or are
                    you saying it takes 2 full terms to matter?
                    \_ I'm just not sure. I don't think there is a hard and
                       fast rule.  As an enduring postive symbol of America, I
                       think there's no question that he's had impact, just as
                       Reagan did and continues to do so - though Reagan's
                       second term wasn't exactly littered with great
                       accomplishments.  I think to put him in the same
                       category as say, Garfield or Harding, is a mistake.
                       I don't think we can say for sure what he would have
                       gone on to accomplish, but I think it's fair to say
                       that the '60s would have been quite different without
                       the trauma of his assassination.  Talk to boomers about
                       it - for a lot of them, it defined their lives.
                       \_ re: boomers.  Absolutely.  I 100% agree.  OTOH, I
                          don't care that all those people remember where they
                          were and what color their socks were when they heard
                          he got shot.  As a realist I only care what he (or
                          anyone else) did or did not accomplish.  I'm not sure
                          I agree the 60s would have been any different though
                          if he had lived.  The US would still have been hip
                          deep in Vietnam.  The hippies would have hipped.
                          Free love would have been just as not-quite free.
                          Am I missing something?
                          \_ The Civil Rights Act.
                             \_ Uhm no.  That was grass roots.  Without the
                                marches, the water cannons, dogs, shootings,
                                lynchings and millions of Americans saying
                                "No!" the CRA would never have happened.
                                \_ Uhm no. You can perhaps argue that it would
                                   have been signed sooner or later, but the
                                   Montgomery bus boycott started 10 years
                                   earlier. It took great political courage to
                                   push through the CRA.
                                   \_ People dying on the streets made it
                                      happen, not some paper pushers in DC.
                                      It took no courage to pass something
                                      most of the country was in favor of
                                      given what was going on in the south.
                                      Politicians are by their very nature
                                      not courageous creatures.
                                      \_ What makes you think that a majority
                                         of the country was in favor of it?
                                         As LBJ said, it gave the South to
                                         the GOP for at least a generation.
        \_ Replace all references to Reverend Wright in that speech with
           David Duke and you might get a feel for why I'm not that impressed.
           \_ So you think the two are the same?  Really?  Are you insane?
              \_ One's a white guy who hates black people, and the other is
                 a black guy who hates white people.  What's the difference?
                 Enlighten me.
                 \_ The United Church of Christ doesn't burn crosses on
                    people's lawns.
                 \_ Uh, please show me where he hates white people.  Seriously.
                    I've seen the videos.  I don't see him shouting how
                    WHITEY MUST DIE.
                    \_ Which videos? I have yet to see a url that points me
                       to these videos.
                       \_ In other words, you're comparing David Duke, former
                          Grand Dragon of the KKK, an organization publically
                          and vocally dedicated to racism, to Rev. Wright, a
                          man whose views you only know through reports in
                          Right Wing Media? Dude, more research, please, before
                          opening mouth.
                          \_ Different person, moron.
                             \_ Wow, if only you'd signed your post, AC.
                                \_ It's pretty obviously a different person.
                                   Sheesh.  I signed as well as you did.
                                   \_ 1) This obvious you speak of is not so
                                      2) I'm not the one who complained about
                                         being mistaken for someone else. If
                                         you really want to be differentiated,
                                         sign your posts.
                                      \_ I suppose it's only obvious if you
                                         have an IQ over 12.  I'll spell it
                                         out for you.  If you're discussing an
                                         article/video, and post comes along
                                         from someone who doesn't even know
                                         there IS a video, it's probably not
                                         from the same guy.
                   \_ And David Duke claims to not be racist, but that he is
                      "a racial realist defending human rights."  So what?
                      I admit, I don't have a 'smoking gun' statement, I'm
                      just infering from his attitude and general distain for
                      'Amerikkka' and 'middleclassness.' (acting like whitey)
                      At the very least we know he is a conspiracy nut.
                      \_ Please document.  Seriously.  Because I have a
                         feeling your ass is getting very empty right now.
                         \_ You said you saw the videos.  Perhaps they weren't
                            the same videos?  You could also read the
                            church website, but it's been purged recently.
                   (church pdf) Or you could
                            read Obama's first book, "Dreams From My Father."
                            Perhaps you should not be insulting other's
                            research.  I've obviously done more than you.
                            \_ Yup, it's totally empty.
                            \_ Keep deleting this if you want, but it
                               is still obvious your ass well is running dry.
                               \_ Are you kidding? I love it when people ask
                                  for evidence, and when you give it to them,
                                  they say "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU! LALALA!"
                                  I admit, you win, I laughed first.
                                  \_ There is no way any of the things you
                                     are talking about come anyway close to
                                     David Duke.  In any way shape or form.
                                     I'm sorry but this whole thing should
                                     be a total non-story.
                                     \_ I've heard some of his sermons on the
                                        radio.  There is no way that a) any
                                        reasonable person can consider what he
                                        said anything but racist and hateful
                                        or b) that someone who knew the guy
                                        for 20 years, called him mentor,
                                        attended his church for 20 years and
                                        had him as a campaign advisor has no
                                        clue what the guy has been saying and
                                        doesn't agree with at least some of
                                        it.  --someone else
                                        \_ So I am supposed to take the word
                                           of some anonymous motd hozer, in
                                           the abscence of any evidence what-
                                           soever? I am curious, are you one
                                           of the guys who thought invading
                                           Iraq was a good idea, too? If these
                                           sermons are so racist, find the
                                           text of one on the Net and share
                                           it and let me decide for myself.
                                           Your judgement is suspect to me.
                                           \_ It took me 10 seconds to find
                                              a pile of links.  It took 10
                                              more to find links from a
                                              sufficiently left wing source
                                              that you might accept them:
                                              I can't play the video but it
                                              should be the live speech.  If
                                              not, you can easily find the
                                              video or audio elsewhere.  Have
                                              a good evening.
                                              \_ I looked at both of those
                                                 and watched the video. Which
                                                 quote exactly is the problem?
                                                 You had no idea what you were
                                                 talking about before and now
                                                 you can't find shit.
                                                 \_ Ok, now you're just
                                                    trolling.  No reasonaable
                                                    human being can call that
                                                    anything but hateful.
                                                    \_ Were P Robertson and J
                                                       Falwell's musings on
                                                       "God removing his
                                                       protection on 9/11"
                                                       more or less "hateful"
                                                       in your beady little
                                                    \_ Which?
                                                    \_ It is about as "hateful"
                                                       as your average Rush
                                                       Limbaugh show or rant
                                                       from Ann Coulter, which
                                                       is to say, yes. Not
                                                       racist though, at least
                                                       it doesn't seem so to me.
                                                       is to say, yes somewhat.
                                                       Not racist though, at
                                                       least it doesn't seem
                                                       seem to me, a white guy.
                                                       so to me, a white guy.
                                                       \_ If Ann and Rush were
                                                          Obama's advisors and
                                                          friends of 20 years
                                                          they wouldn't get a
                                                          pass like Wright.
                                                          \_ Which is why
                                                             Ann can talk at
                                                             the RNC and call
                                                             Edwards a fagot
                                                             and the media
                                                             barely pays any
                                                             attention to
                                                             the story?  Why
                                                             McCain can suck
                                                             up to a preacher
                                                             who calls the
                                                             Catholic church
                                                             Satanists and he
                                                             gets a pass?  Why
                                                             Pat Roberston can
                                                             blame 9/11 on gays
                                                             and feminists and
                                                             still be sucked up
                                                             to by the
                                                             machine?  This is
                                                             whole thing is
                                                             bullshit.  Obama
                                                             didn't say these
                                                             things but he
                                                             takes the hit.
                                                             Meanwhile major
                                                             rep. powers spew
                                                             tons more hate
                                                             regularly and
                                                             noone blinks.
        How is being the subject of intense media      _/
        scrutiny and being the number one story in
        newspapers all over the country qualify
        as "getting a pass"?
2008/3/18-21 [Uncategorized] UID:49487 Activity:nil
3/18    Technical question.  I have a bunch of sockets that I want to wait
        on for input, so I'm using poll.  However, frequetly another thread
        has to add another socket to the set.  How do I wake thee thread
        out of poll to accept the new socket and add it to the read set?
        Right now I'm having the poll also check a pipe which I send a single
        character over when I have a new socket to add.  Is there some
        better way to do this?  Should I be using something other than poll?
        \_ That's a pretty reasonable solution.  Although someone else
           may have a better response.  Are you using linux or freebsd?  Cause
           you may want to look into epoll/kqueue.
2008/3/18-21 [Science/Electric, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/Theory] UID:49488 Activity:low
3/18    Walking robot video, really cool!
        \_ From MIT. All the good stuff's from MIT & Furd. Where's
           cool stuff from Cal?
           \_ BSD?  Atomic Bomb?
           \_ Actually RHex, which was a philosophical precursor to BigDog,
              came out of motion work done by Bob Full at Cal.  -tom
        \_ Wow, that *is* impressive, especially the recovery after getting
           kicked.  And recovering on ice!  Walking across loose stones!
        \_ That is utterly cool! Thank you for posting that!
        \_ Mount a machine gun on top... John Conner would be proud!
        \_ They showed that on discovery channel or something months ago.
           Where are the sexless tv watchers when you need them?
        \_ obIWelcomeOurNewRobotOverlords
2008/3/18 [Science/GlobalWarming, Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus] UID:49489 Activity:nil 80%like:49494
3/18    RIP Arthur C. Clarke [nyt]
2008/3/18-21 [Uncategorized] UID:49490 Activity:kinda low
3/18    Dear "Yes, my mom was a hottie back in the day" guy, was she
        hotter than Jackie Johnson?
        \_ Too bad she married a really ugly Greek guy and her kid's
           ugly too. 1 * (-1) = -1.
        \_ How can anyone be?
           \_ Lisa Guerrero can be.
              \_ 1. Fake body parts
                 2. 10 years ago
              \_ She only ranks 81-82
2008/3/18-21 [Finance/Banking, Finance/Investment] UID:49491 Activity:nil
3/18    Tent cities springing up in LA:
        \_ lazy people = poor people, proof that we shouldn't waste any
           more money on social programs and handouts!  -Republican
           \_ You can go and give them your money. Why don't you?
        \_ America! Fuck yeah!
2008/3/18-21 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:49492 Activity:nil
3/18    Windows reads/writes NTFS.  Modern linux reads/writes NTFS.
        I think Macs read it.  Dunno if they write it.  Is there any reason
        for me not to make my portable usb drives NTSF now?
        \_ have you tried to move a NTFS from  one windows PC to another?
           Try that first and then decide on which FS to use...
        \_ Macs can write to NTFS if you install NTFS-3g.
2008/3/18-21 [Uncategorized] UID:49493 Activity:nil
3/18    When will McCain step forth to throw Hagee under a bus?  We demand
        the bus throwing!
2008/3/18-21 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:49494 Activity:nil 80%like:49489
3/18    RIP Sir Arthur Clarke
2019/08/19 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
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