Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2008:February:27 Wednesday <Tuesday, Thursday>
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2008/2/27-3/4 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:49272 Activity:nil
2/27    Tennessee GOP slimes Obama for being a Jew-hater, or supported by
        Jew-haters, or....something.  Expect to see a lot, lot more of this.
        http://www.tngop.org/wordpress/?p=113
        http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/tennessee_gop_smears_obama_wit.php
2008/2/27-3/4 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:49273 Activity:nil
2/27    64% of Israelis support direct talks with Hamas government
        http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/958473.html
        \_ I tought Hamas were supposed to be terrorists?
        \_ I thought Hamas were supposed to be terrorists?
           \_ They are.  They're still lobbing rockets over the border and
              slipping suicide bombers in every so often.  About the only
              good thing about them is how many PLO/Fatah thugs they killed
              when they took over Gaza.
              \_ Isreal negotiates with terrorists now?
2008/2/27-3/4 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:49274 Activity:kinda low
2/27    Global Warming Kills:
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/2hlu2v (newscientist.com)
        \_ Given my choice between the earth warming a few degrees and the
           earth cooling the same amount, I'll take warming every time.
           Cold is bad for people.  Warm is mostly good for people.
           \_ Climate change is bad, period.  I haven't contemplated
              the difference between cooling and warming, but having
              to abandon 100 trillion dollars worth of infrastructure
              (basically every coastal city) because it gets flooded
              due to sea level rise sucks very badly.  Also,
              desertification of once productive farmland (even if
              other lands become available...)
              \_ Or, in CS words, we've optimized for the current climate, it
              \_ Or, in CS words, we've optimized for the current climate, if
                 the climate changes, we have to reoptimize, which takes a
                 long time.
                 \_ Climate change isn't new. It's been colder and it's been
                    warmer. We are better able now than ever to deal with
                    it so the transition will be easier than ever.
                    \_ prove it.
                       \_ Prove what? That the climate has changed before?
                          \_ That we're better able to deal with it.  Have
                             we had 2-foot sea level rises with many of the
                             world centers being on coastlines at sea level?
                             \_ Better able to deal with climate change as
                                compared to when?  50 years ago?  Yes.  500?
                                Yes.  The Roman era?  Yes.  10k BC?  Yes.
                                Technology has made it possible for more people
                                to live better lives across the entire planet
                                today than at any time no matter what the
                                local conditions are compared to the same
                                conditions with lower tech.  Was this even a
                                serious question?
                                \_ A greater portion of the world's population
                                   is living in seriously marginal conditions
                                   than ever before.
                                   \_ Uh, no. -- ilyas
2008/2/27-3/4 [Politics/Domestic/HateGroups] UID:49275 Activity:nil
2/26    Go hillary!
        \_ kkk endorses Obama, says anything's better than hillary:
           http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/?c=117&a=1227
           \_ Ha ha!  That's a good one.
        \_ Stick a fork in it.  She's done.
           \_ I'm still hoping that she and the superdelegates will rip the
              Democratic party apart.
              \_ And they hope you'll choke on your O'Doul's and pretzel.
2008/2/27-3/4 [Politics/Domestic/President/Reagan, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:49276 Activity:low
2/26    Goodbye, Bill Buckley, you magnificent bastard.
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080227/ap_on_re_us/obit_buckley
        \_ Some of Buckley's vaginal orgasms:
           Buckley vs. Gore Vidal
           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYymnxoQnf8
           Buckley vs. Chomsky
           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt-GUAxmxdk
           \- good riddance.
              \_ some low life here always wishes ill upon the dead.  he's
                 gone.  get over him.  move on.
                 \- i am not sure what your point is, but let me elaborate
                    on mine:
                    Wm Buckley "mastered" the art of defending a self-serving
                    set of ideas in a forum he controlled. He looks smart
                    and shiney next to talk show hacks, and perhaps is
                    somebody you look up to when you mature from a
                    High School Randroid into a freshly card carrying
                    college republican. But a deep and original thinker
                    like say Robert Nozick? Hardly. Although Cheney makes
                    him look good. [and yes i know Conservatism != Randoidism]
                    \_ He's dead.  Attacking dead people doesn't hurt them.
                       I'm concerned for your emotional and mental well being,
                       not WFB's reputation or feelings.  It's unhealthy.
                 \_ You're joking, right? It's WFB. Some of his best friends
                    are still going to spit on his grave.
                    \_ Like who?  URL?
           \_ wow.  i really want a "...Mr. Anderson" on that 2nd video
        \_ http://www.csua.org/u/kxl (NY Times)
           David Brooks on Buckley.
2008/2/27-3/4 [Reference/Religion] UID:49277 Activity:nil
2/26    Major survey challenges Western perceptions of Islam
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080227/ts_alt_afp/usislamreligionethics
2008/2/27-3/4 [Uncategorized] UID:49278 Activity:nil
2/27    Haleigh Poutre speaks
        http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1076311&format=text
        (She was determined to be in a persistent vegetative state, have life
        support removed, etc.)
2008/2/27-3/4 [Uncategorized] UID:49279 Activity:nil
2/27    Sign the petition against financial derivatives abuses and the
        socialization of losses
        http://financialpetition.org
2008/2/27-3/4 [Uncategorized] UID:49280 Activity:low
2/27    Every individual's decision will contribute to an efficient
        collective decision. That's why I'm in favor of the free-market
        sorting things out.
        \_ That is why I am in favor of Democratic Socialism.
        \_ Please go read about "behavioral economics." ok tnx.
           \_ Hardly universally accepted as applicable to market situations.
        \_ A Nobel Prize or two disagrees with you.
2008/2/27-3/4 [Recreation/Pets] UID:49281 Activity:nil
2/27    Pet snake ate a pet dog. This is totally cool!!!
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080227/ap_on_fe_st/australia_snake_attack
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