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| 2008/2/14-18 [Uncategorized] UID:49137 Activity:nil |
2/14 This is the saddest thing ever
http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Number=10904457
\_ [Description of breast reduction and lots of pictures of the
breasts prior to reduction; not NSFW, but dodgy]
\_ Oh no! Why!? She's not hot anymore. Her web search hits will die
down soon. |
| 2008/2/14 [Academia/Berkeley] UID:49138 Activity:nil 90%like:49140 |
2/14 Hans Reiser's days at UC Berkeley:
http://www.dailycal.org/article/100390/berkeley_alumnus_hans_reiser_on_trial_for_wife_s_m |
| 2008/2/14-18 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Others] UID:49139 Activity:nil |
2/14 Smoking and latent tuberculosis form a synergy of death.
http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSDEL3907720080213?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=10010
This is a case were YOUR bad habit can cause YOU to become
infectious and deadly to others, far beyond just "secondhand smoke".
\_ even MORE reasons to move away from city-dwelling liburals
and retreat to my gated suburban community -Republican
\_ "The results are partly explained by the fact that, unlike in the
West, many people in India are infected with asymptomatic
tuberculosis. Smoking can cause enough damage to the lungs that
the latent infection can no longer be contained, researchers said."
Where do you draw the connection of smoking being infectious and
deadly to others?
\_ Latent tuberculosis is not generally transmissable to others.
Active tuberculosis IS. Smoking activates latent
tuberculosis. Is the connection clear now?
\_ Okay, so in India, where latent tuberculosis is prevalent,
a culture of smoking keeps activating the virus and making
it more likely to spread. Thank goodness that's not the
case here in the States. |
| 2008/2/14-18 [Academia/Berkeley, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:49140 Activity:nil 90%like:49138 |
2/14 Hans Reiser's days at UC Berkeley:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ys92sn (dailycal.org)
\_ Who is this 'Pete' fellow
\_ Almost certainly Shipley. Also a nut, booted off soda
several times. -tom |
| 2008/2/14-18 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:49141 Activity:kinda low 75%like:49133 |
2/13 Mythbusting Canadian Health Care
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2gpm64 (part I - http://ourfuture.org)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/27ejwh (part II - http://ourfuture.org)
\_ Oh sure, you'd expect this from free-market deniers.
\_ Care to respond to the arguments or just blather
and set up strawmen?
\_ "1. Canada's health care system is "socialized medicine."
False. In socialized medical systems, the doctors work
directly for the state."
This is a joke. It's a semantic nit-pick. (And goes downhill
from there.)
\_ All I can say is that I have one of the best PPOs money
can buy in the USA, and it SUCKS DONKEY BALLS. If
what Canada has is socialism, then bring on the
socialism. ok thx.
\_ What sucks about your PPO?
\_ Maybe your PPO isn't as good as you think. My
current one sucks, but my previous one was awesome.
If yours sucks then it doesn't indict the entire
medical system.
\_ Move to Canada then.
\_ yeah, because who would want to do anything to
improve America? -tom
\_ I don't think it would be good for America, and
the arguments at the links above are specious. I
think the government needs to get *less* involved
in health care, not more. If you want Canada's
system, go to Canada.
\_ If the system changes and you don't like it,
where are you going to go? -tom
\_ Excellent non sequitur, sir!
\_ Mexico, where health care is cheap and
of high quality.
\_ Cuba!
\_ What exactly sucks about it? That it's not free?
\_ This is my favorite:
"We'll have rationed care
Don't look now: but America does ration care. And it does it in the
most capricious, draconian, and often dishonest way possible.
"Mostly, the US system rations care by simply eliminating large
numbers of people from the system due to an inability to pay."
Um, yes. That's called capitalism. This is saying, "socialized
health care would be better because socialism is better!"
-emarkp
\_ no, it's saying that capitalism rations care. -tom
\_ No, capitalism puts care on a market.
\_ and that's good because...?
\_ Because markets are a proven mechanism for optimizing
results and give you a choice of where and how to
spend your money. What's good about socialism? You
are trying to change the system so the onus is on
you.
\_ Evolution is also a proven mechanism for
optimizing results. Just let all the poor, dumb
people die, it's the natural order of things.
\_ Don't forget about the UNLUCKY. Evolution
doesn't care if it operates fairly. Fairness
is a human peculiarity.
\_ Darwinism does account for luck where
both the lucky and unlucky offset each
other hence you'll still find order in
any chaos system.
\_ It's lots of fun for those who lose
because of bad luck, isn't it?
\_ It is a fallacy that markets optimize results.
An obvious failure case in the health realm is that
markets don't provide universal vaccine, which
ends up being a larger public health cost than
vaccine would be. -tom
\_ I'm not saying everything should only be driven
purely by markets. So provide free vaccine. Next?
\_ Socialist.
\_ Exceptions don't mean it's a fallacy. "Commons"
concerns are a known area where markets alone
can't optimize the problem, because the costs
and benefits aren't easily quantified or owned.
Another example is stuff like national parks
and open space. The actual value of open space
to the society at large or in the area is hard
to accurately capture. I'm open to discussion
of what constitutes such cases but I don't see
convincing arguments with respect to health
care.
\_ Proven, you mean like how the markets put CAs
power out a few years back? And gave us M$ as a
monopoly product? No one seriously believes in
unregulated markets as a mechanism for optimizing
anything.
\_ No one seriously promotes unregulated markets,
dumbass. Power markets are a laughable example
however: regulations prevented investment in
more power infrastructure.
\_ Then if you agree we need to regulate markets
you are just arguing over how much "socialism"
we really need.
\_ Regulation (laws) is not socialism, dumbass.
\_ I'm confused. op posts article debunking
myths about Canada's healthcare system.
emarkp makes comparison to socialism.
criticisms of capitalism follow, then
praises of capitalism (by way of the
free market, i.e., competition), then
bad examples of said competition, then
qualifications based on possible limited
regulation, followed by ironic
invocation of "socialism," followed by
literal reference to socialism. At what
point does any of this point to the US
system somehow being better?
\_ dumbass
\_ Yay! You're contributing!
\_ Well, it's true but oddly twisted. All limited resources
must be rationed some how. I only know of 3 ways, money,
politics, and violence. The Free Market uses money for a
variety of good reasons, but sometimes it doesn't work.
However, we are so used to the free market that we only call
political rationing, rationing. It's just a matter of
common language use.
\_ No, it's saying "fears of rationing care are based on a
fictional lack of rationed care in the US."
\_ I love this argument:
- Universal health care is Socialism! Capitalism rox! F U TAXES!
- Our health care system sucks! We need Canada's system! OBAMA!! |
| 2008/2/14-18 [Uncategorized] UID:49142 Activity:nil |
2/14 I need an alarm clock that does a loud house shaking Muslim
CALL TO PRAYER. anyone have a link? |
| 2008/2/14 [Recreation/Media] UID:49143 Activity:nil |
2/14 New Clone Wars movie/tv show is coming:
http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/news/announcement.html |
| 2008/2/14-18 [Reference/Law/Court, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:49144 Activity:moderate |
2/14 good reiser trial blog
http://www.jaygaskill.com/blog1
\_ His defense seems to center around "my wife went to russia". Can't
he hire someone in Russia to find her and take some pictures of
her at lunch or something?
\_ OJ is still looking for Nicole's killers
\_ Well, without a body can there really be a crime? Yes, but
there's a huge element of doubt introduced.
\_ People get convicted of murder without the body sometimes.
I bet it'll be a mistrial
\_ Sure they do, but it makes it really tough.
\_ If he takes the stand, he'll be found guilty. If he
doesn't, he'll probably get a hung jury. -tom
\_ There's no body but he's claiming she fled to russia. The
case will be dropped instantly if he could prove that. It
makes me suspicious that we haven't heard a single thing about
investigating his claims she's living there now.
\_ He's just saying that he has no idea where she is and
that she may have gone there. How do you investigate
that? It's hard enough to find someone in the US.
\_ If she's there where she has family and other roots she
shouldn't be that hard to find. It isn't the heart of
Africa.
\_ Unless you think Nina's family are masters of manipulation, it's pretty
clear her side of the family thinks she's dead. I guess she could have
accepted her new job, gotten groceries, taken the battery out of
her cell phone, THEN hopped skipped and jumped to a secret hole
in Russia and resolved to never talk to her beloved children
again. Oh yeah this is after she planted her blood, and Hans' blood,
on the stairport of Hans' house. Remember Nina hasn't lived in that
house in over a year.
\_ It's hard to find someone who doesn't want to
be found. Thats my point. If she's just living
a normal life there then sure.
\_ Unless you think Nina's family are masters of manipulation, it's
pretty clear her side of the family thinks she's dead. I guess she
could have accepted her new job, gotten groceries, taken the
battery out of her cell phone, THEN hopped skipped and jumped to a
secret hole in Russia and resolved to never talk to her beloved
children again. Oh yeah this is after she planted her blood, and
Hans' blood, on the stairport of Hans' house. Remember Nina hasn't
lived in that house in over a year.
\_ Actually, the way it went down was that ext3 was feeling the heat
from reiserfs so it ordered a combo hit/frame-up on the Reisers.
Nina was killed and Hans was framed so that reiserfs would wither
and ext3 could go on try to take over the world.
\_ From what I know I think he killed her. I'm just saying that
if his defense is that she's is Russia, how much effort has he
put into finding her? Seems kinda important, no? |
| 2008/2/14-18 [Recreation/Dating] UID:49145 Activity:nil |
2/14 Happy Valentines Day! So is Partha Banerjee gay or not?
\_ Why? Do you want a date with him?
\_ Still in denial. |
| 2008/2/14-18 [Finance/Investment] UID:49146 Activity:kinda low |
2/14 Full-time and summer internship jobs available at Bain Capital.
Use CS to invest in stocks/bonds/commodities/etc.
Postings at http://tinyurl.com/3blwm2 and http://tinyurl.com/2tqe8c
\_ Isn't this Mitt Romney's company?
\_ Can I use my CS skills to assfuck school districts for phat bonus?
Not that there's anything wrong with that. Survival of the fittest
ba-by!
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=ay5LDbjbjy6c
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1202912760.php
\_ does it matter?
\_ Yes.
\_ Why? Where do you work that isn't involved in some way
with someone you don't like?
\_ There are lots of places to work that don't have
upper management I dislike. Your argument is silly.
So I should work at a company run by Charles Manson
because where can I "work that isn't involved in
some way with someone [I] don't like?"
\_ So you're equating Charles Manson with Mitt Romney?
And you call me silly? We're done here.
\_ I'm just taking your argument to the extreme
to point out how ridiculous it is. I mean,
I may as well work with Manson because where
can I work that isn't involved with someone I
dislike? I never equated Romney with Manson
other than to say I dislike them both. |
| 2008/2/14-18 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:49147 Activity:low |
2/14 Worst thing about Obama winning the nomination: 6 months of
racist (often veiled as concerns as to what the "mainstream" thinks)
pandering on the motd.
\_ McCain winning would be the worst thing, if it happened
\_ You keep saying that but I haven't seen anything racist on the
motd re: Obama yet. Are you trying to create that atmosphere?
You seem to be the only one posting that stuff like your post
below. Everyone else here is talking issues and candidate
qualities and policies.
\_ I can't keep saying something I only said once.
\_ So you and your friend keep saying it. Saying something a
lot doesn't make it true.
\_ I didn't say there was going to be racist trolls.
I was wondering why the "OH NOES HE'S A MUSLIM
IN DISGUISE HIS MIDDLE NAME IS HUSSEIN OH NOOOOES"
meme popular with freepers hadn't shown up the motd.
Most of the other poisonous shit like that (e.g. Swift
Boat) was a big topic here.
The motd really is letting us down for entertainment
value. !op
\_ Clue time: this isn't the freepers. There are people
here who not on the left but aren't frothing mindless
freepers. Why must anyone who disagrees with you
automatically be a mindless frothing freeper idiot?
\_ Honestly, hasn't most of that been thrown around by
the Clinton team? |
| 2008/2/14-18 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Reagan] UID:49148 Activity:kinda low |
2/14 Seriously, does a black man really have a chance against a more
experienced (though controversial) white Caucasian candidate?
Is America really ready for a black President?
\_ What is this "experience" that she and everyone keep talking
about?
\_ Is America ready for a 72 year old President?
\_ Reagan was 70-78 years old during his presidency.
\_ What is this "experience" that she keeps talking about?
\_ Someone had to mind the store while Bill was busy with
the staff.
\_ Given how people are talking when interviewed, this really
appears to have become a non-issue.
\_ Americans vote for charming winners that appeal to their hearts
while right wing people vote for smarties (or at least those
who seem annoyingly smug about their superier intelligence)
\_ Please tell me this
was edited after the fact.
http://csua.com/2008/02/04/#49061_
(stop deleting this asshat)
It's not about the policies, damnit.
\_ Oh look, it's Mr. MAINSTREAM AMERICA posting again.
\_ Really? I thought right wing was anti-smarty. It's the
liberals that always say they're the smart people.
Big city elites and all that.
\_ Rush always says that Democrats are a bunch of crack
smoking welfare moms. Does he mean welfare moms with
PhDs? Don't forget the illegals and lazy Union thugs.
Are these all supposed to be intellectuals?
\_ Think Presidents David and Wayne Palmer. But one hopes that
Michelle Obama is nothing like Sherry Palmer.
\_ I love conservatives. When it comes to policy, 'racism doesn't
exist anymore.' When it comes to candidates, 'OH NOES BLACK GUY
RUN FOR THE HILLS!'
\_ Why do you listen to Rush?
\_ After seeing Presidents David and Wayne Palmer in action,
America is totally ready for a black president. A black
first lady, however, is a different story. Hopefully Mrs.
Obama is nothing like Sherry Palmer.
\_ This country is not ready for a black president. This contry
isn't ready for a female president either. However, it is ready
for a moron president (http://www.presidentmoron.com |
| 2008/2/14-18 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:49149 Activity:nil |
2/14 How the Bush Administration helped the banks screw the American
borrower:
http://www.csua.org/u/krq
\_ Liberal slant alert.
\_ is there supposed to be something wrong with that? |
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