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2008/1/25-2/2 [Health/Disease/General, Health/Women] UID:49010 Activity:nil
1/15    Does the AMA prevent doctors from representing companies or
        drugs? If so, why does the Dr. of artificial heart (Robert Jarvis)
        appear on TV ads?
        \_ http://urltea.com/2kxk [freakonomics blog]
           "I was surprised to discover that many of the manuscripts on Vioxx were
            prepared and written by Merck or medical writing companies that Merck
            had commissioned. The company then often paid academics to become authors.."
            Good comments, too. Search for "Posted by SB", among others.
           "I was surprised to discover that many of the manuscripts on Vioxx
           were prepared and written by Merck or medical writing companies that
           Merck had commissioned. The company then often paid academics to
           become authors.." Good comments, too. Search for "Posted by SB",
           among others.  ...This site leads to other good stuff, such as
           http://urltea.com/1k68 [cato-unbound.org] "Note that someone willing
           to pay $1,000 to gain 2.5 days of life should be willing to spend
           about $1,000,000 to gain six years by living rurally, and $2,000,000
           to gain fifteen years via high exercise. These figures seem to me to
           overestimate the observed eagerness to live rurally or to exercise."
           \_ 80 columns imposed
           \_ Do rural dwellers really live an average of six years longer?
              Source please?
2008/1/25-2/2 [Recreation/Food, Transportation/Car/Hybrid] UID:49011 Activity:nil
1/25    Which reduces carbon footprint more: buying a Prius, or becoming a
        vegetarian?
        \_ Killing yourself.
        \_ Moving out of Los Angeles and dating Asian (they eat less).
           \_ But you'd do more heavy breathing and consume more condoms.
        \_ RIDE BIKE!!!!!
        \_ Dumpster Diving.
        \_ Smaller carbon shoes.
2008/1/25-2/2 [Uncategorized] UID:49012 Activity:nil
1/25    Dang, one of the Monte Carlo logos on the top floor just burned up.
        A whole bunch of the top floor rooms are also burning up
        http://www.knbc.com/videostream/10954229/detail.html
        \_ DOWN WITH GAMBLING and evil establishments!     -Berkeley hippy
         \_ you've confused hippie with fundie
2008/1/25-2/2 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:49013 Activity:nil
1/25    Societe Generale uncovers massive fraud - Yahoo! News:
        http://www.csua.org/u/kkq
        After reading the whole article, I still don't understand how the fraud
        worked.
        \_ You mean you're supposed to understand anything by reading
           Yahoo! News?
           \_ It's an AP story.
2008/1/25-2/2 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:49014 Activity:nil
1/25    Goodnight, Kucinich:
        http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/25/us/politics/25kucinich.html
2008/1/25-2/2 [Industry/Startup] UID:49015 Activity:nil
1/25    Advice for people in the startups (dans, this may be useful):
  http://www.askthevc.com/blog/archives/2008/01/what-is-the-eff.php#respond
        \_ Not really news to me, but basically good advice.  In a nutshell,
           if you are a first-time founder of a pre-funded company, things may
           be rough.  Companies that depend on advertising for revenues may be
           in trouble if we have a long recession.  The flipside is that
           startups with a large warchest (e.g. Ning, Slide) are in good shape
           because they can likely ride out a downturn while their competitors
           succumb to attrition. -dans
2008/1/25-2/2 [Transportation/Car/RoadHogs, Finance/Investment] UID:49016 Activity:moderate
1/25   "The general process of suburbanization is, the richer you are, the more
       likely you move to the suburbs," says Julie Martin, a senior demographer
       for the Weldon Cooper Center for Public Service at the University of
       Virginia.
        \_ Why does JFK junior live in NYC?
           \_ He lives with the worms, now.
        \_ Obviously true in the DC area, obvioiusly false in most of the
           world.
           \_ Yes, because a motd anecdote is superior to a researcher at
              a university. If you look at the wealthiest areas in the US
              in terms of income they are almost all, if not all, suburbs.
              \_ No, the wealthiest areas in the US and world are in cities.
              \_ No, the wealthiest areas in the US and the world are in cities.
                 See Pac Heights, The Upper East Side, Kensington in London,
                 The First Addrosmont (sic?) in Paris, etc. In the Bay Area
                 The 7th Arrondissement in Paris, etc. In the Bay Area
                     \- dont you mean the 8e/triangle d'or. --psb
                 per capita income is as follows:
                 Marin - 44.9k
                 San Mateo - 36k
                 SF - 34.5k
                 CoCo - 30.6k
                 Alameda - 26.7k
                 \_ See, Marin is wealthier than SF.
                    \_ So is San Mateo. The data does not say what he
                       thinks it says.
                       \_ And Alameda county is really urban, not suburban and\
                          CoCo County is just an outlier. Right?
                          \_ What does that make SF besides 3rd choice?
                             \_ Does the evidence presented support or refute
                                the statement "The wealthier you are, the more
                                likely you are to live in the suburbs?" Hint:
                                what is the contrapostiive of that statement?
                                what is the contrapositive of that statement?
                                \_ There isn't enough evidence to refute
                                   anything without providing some more
                                   data like population figures. Are the
                                   numbers you gave medians or averages?
                                   What is the margin of error? Fact is
                                   the wealthiest communities in the nation
                                   are suburban, not urban. Even your
                                   stats show that.
                                   \_ It actually depends on what you mean
                                      by the word "communities" actually.
                                      Is a county synomymous with community?
                                   \_ It depends on what you mean by the
                                      word "communities." Is a county
                                      synomymous with community?
                                      \_ It can be and in most of the
                                         country it is. CA has some
                                         massive counties where it might
                                         not be true, but SF is not one of
                                         those.
           \_ More like, true to a certain extent based on economic migration
              patterns in cities like NYC and Detroit; tends to break down
              after a certain economic level and depends heavily on how
              attractive inner-city neighborhoods are in a given city.
        \_ http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/076903.html
           It is more complicated than that. The wealthy and the poor tend
           to both move to the suburbs, for differing reasons.
2008/1/25-2/2 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:49017 Activity:nil
1/25    Looks like Giuliani is out
        http://www.pollster.com/blogs
        \_ Likely, but remember polls are worth absolutely nothing.
        \_ Giuliani's strategy is to lose in every state and then declare
           this year is "opposite year"
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