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2007/12/3-6 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:48733 Activity:moderate
12/3    Perot was right:
        http://www.csua.org/u/k50 (SF Gate)
        \_ about what, dubya being an idiot?
        \_ Ron Paul > Perot
         \_ Damning with faint praise?
          \_ What was bad about Perot? Was Clinton better?
             \_ <doubletake> Huh?!?
                \_ It's R code. A vote for perot was a vote for clinton.
                   \_ Perot was a protest vote for those who thought the
                      party was drifting.  The contract with america was
                      the response to that protest. Then it all fell to shit.
2007/12/3-6 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:48734 Activity:high
12/3    The primaries finally get interesting
        http://csua.org/u/k58
        Any predictions on who will take the R nomination? I have no idea,
        Except that I think Giuliani is done.
        \_ I think that if Giuliani falls down it will be Romney and
           he will get even less of the vote than Dukakis did.
           \_ Heard on the radio this morning that Romney's counting on a win
              in Iowa or going home. Is Huckabee really the choice candidate?
              \_ Well, he's a socialist.  He belives that compassion means
                 taking *someone else's* money to give to the needy.
           \_ Romney would win Utah.
              \_ Pretty much any R would win Utah.
                 \_ Well, I actually meant he would win Utah and no other state.
                 \_ Well, I actually meant he would win Utah and no other
                    state.
                    \_ Why do you think that?
        \_ I think Huckabee is looking more and more like the best the R's
           can do this year. It would make for an interesting race, to say
           the least.
           \_ Huckabee is the current darling of the religious right who are
              obsessed with the bogus concept of stacking the supreme court
              so they can over turn RvW.  If they actually knew anything about
              him (or you either for that matter), it would be obvious that
              Huckabee offers the worst of both left and right wing while
              offering none of the positives of either.  If the RR stayed
              home we'd all be better off.  Huckabee isn't going anywhere.
                --conservative
           \_ Huckabee is an ass and would fall apart once the non faithful
              took ANY look at him.
              \_ Huckabee called for a national smoking ban in public places.
                 http://www.breitbart.tv/html/4958.html
                 \_ Did it occur to him that it's unconstitutional for the Fed
                    to legistlate something like that?
                    \_ Why do you think it would be unconstitutional?
                       \_ 10th amendment?
                          \_ The Constitution is just a piece of paper.
                             \_ Hi troll.
                          \_ "The powers not delegated to the United States by
                              the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the
                              states, are reserved to the states respectively,
                              or to the people."
                             Since pharmaceuticals are not mentioned in the
                             constitution, do you really think the Gov. has no
                             right/obligation to regulate them?
                             \_ What do you think that says?
                             \_ On that logic just about any regulatory body
                                is unconstitutional, but guess what, the
                                FCC, the FDA, etc etc, are all pretty well
                                entrenched.
                                \_ I agree, but I'm wondering why the person
                                   who thinks it's unconstitutional thinks
                                   it's so in the face of the etc etc you
                                   mentioned.
                                \_ Hello, you may wish to see Art. 1, Sec. 8
                                   Cl. 18 (the "necessary and proper clause")
                                   and McCulloch, 17 US 316 (1819) re the
                                   constitutionality of the FCC, FDA, &c.
                                   and McCulloch, 17 US 316 (1819).
                                   \_ Income tax is unconstitutional, too.
2007/12/3-6 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:48735 Activity:high
12/3    Media Matter's displays CNN rules for submitting debate questions:
        http://mediamatters.org/items/200711270007
        ---
        Anyone who wants to submit a question may do so by uploading a video
        clip through YouTube. All the videos that are submitted will be posted
        on the site. CNN will then choose as many as 50 videos to use during
        the debate.
        Asked for guidelines on what kind of questions were most likely to make
        it on the air, Bohrman said they should be concise -- no more than
        30 seconds -- provocative, and creative.
        "We're not going to have anything obscene or inappropriate, but I think
        we'll get some very inventive questions," he said.
        ---
        Note the conspicuous abscence of a requirement that one be undecided
        or a member of one party or the other.
        \_ http://www.csua.org/u/k57 (LA Times)
           A review by the Los Angeles Times of the debate sponsored by CNN
           and YouTube four months ago found that the Democratic presidential
           candidates also faced queries that seemed to come from the
           conservative perspective. At least two of the citizen-interrogators
           had clear GOP leanings.
           CNN officials said that in the Democratic debate, as in Wednesday's
           Republican encounter, they had not attempted to determine the party
           or ideology of the questioners.
        \_ How did the discussion go when the Dems refused to debate on Fox
           News?
           \_ Totally different story.  Fox news has made its reputation
              (and fortune) by being very anti-Democratic Party.  That's not
              the same thing at all.
              \_ No, they made their rep/money on providing the other side
                 of the news to the people who felt the rest of the news was
                 biased to the left.  These days FN is pushing the same
                 agenda as CNN and the rest, but it was fun while it lasted.
                 \_ "The other side of the news"? Like, "War is Peace,"
                    "Slavery is Freedom, "Ignorance is Strength," that kind
                    of thing? What planet do you live on, and what's the
                    weather like there?
           \_ When is MM going to run her correction?
              \_ What correction?
                 \_ For her claim that the GOP did not insert any of their
                    supporters into the Democratic debate. For her claim that
                    these people all represented themselves as undecided.
                    \_ I can't find the claim that GOP supporters didn't insert
                       themselves into the Dem debate. As far whether they were
                       "undecided", while that's not a formal requirement, it's
                       reasonable to assume that someone asking a question at a
                       debate actually cares about hearing the answer.  So if
                       someone has already decided to openly support a
                       candidate *not on the stage* what are they doing asking
                       them questions (and ridiculous ones at that)?
                       \_ "But the persistent media double standard is obvious
                           to everyone but the manure spreaders at CNN: Had
                           GOP candidates somehow been able to insert their
                           operatives and supporters into a Democratic debate,
                           and had, say, Fox News failed to vet the questioners
                           and presented them as average citizens, both Fox
                           and the GOP would be treated as the century's worst
                           media sinners." -MM
                           So by your standards, the numerous GOP supporters
                           who asked questions during the Democratic debate
                           should not have done that? When are you going to
                           condemn them for it? Why is your outrage so
                           selective?
                           \_ Well, I didn't care about the Dem debate and so
                              didn't watch it because I know enough about the
                              candidates' positions that there's no way I'd
                              vote for any of them.  And yes, had any GOP
                              activists been outed in that debate, I would have
                              been just as annoyed.  There's a difference
                              between "conservative questions" and GOP
                              activists.  In *both* cases CNN should have
                              screened for questions that actually matter to
                              the actual primary voters. -pp
                              \_ get a clue.
                              \_ GOP activists did ask questions at the
                                 Democratic debate, you are just too blind
                                 to see that.
                                 \_ Name em.
                                    \_ John McAlpin, for one.
2007/12/3-6 [Computer/HW/CPU, Computer/SW/OS/VM] UID:48736 Activity:kinda low
12/3    Has anyone seen this VMware problem before?  When I have one or two
        VM session running, Task Manager on my host machine shows that the
        vmware-vmx.exe processes uses 0% CPU time when the VMs are idle.
        However, when I have more sesssions (maybe 4 or more) running, Task
        Manager shows that each of the vmware-vmx.exe processes is using
        10-20% CPU time even though all the VMs are idle.  This eats up CPU
        cycles from my other processes.  I'm using VMware Server 1.0.3.  I
        have a HyperThread CPU and the "Number of processors" setting for my
        VMs are set to 2.  Thx.
        \_ What do you think of VMWare in general? We are evaluating it now
           for possible purchase.
           \_ What are you going to use it for?
              \_ Almost everything.  Production servers, dev and test
                 environment. Probably not for the database servers though.
                 Does that answer your question?
                 \_ No. It doesn't. What are you hoping to gain by using
                    VMWare?
                    \_ Server consolidation, better ability to manage
                       dev and test environments, hopefully a better DR plan.
                       \_ Sounds like VMware might work for you then. I've
                          used VMware since version 3 and I've been pretty
                          happy with it. I don't know if I'd transition
                          all of my hosts to VMs just yet, but it excels
                          in meeting the needs you have.
        \_ I've used VMware for about 4 years with debian as the host OS.
           it is fantastic. on my new intel macbook i use VMware Fusion.
        \_ Does TM say if this if kernel or user time?  Are you swapping?
           \_ Kernel time.  No the host machine is not swapping.  It has 2GB
              RAM, and the Commit Charge Total is around 1.8GB.
2007/12/3-6 [Politics/Domestic/Abortion, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:48737 Activity:nil
12/3    Ron Paul's 2007 speeches to Congress
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/3xzf6b
2007/12/3-6 [Transportation/Car/Hybrid] UID:48738 Activity:nil
12/3    2009 Toyota Prius Plug-in Hybrid Prototype: Tokyo Test Drive
        http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4227944.html
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