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| 2007/11/30-12/3 [Uncategorized] UID:48717 Activity:nil |
11/29 Are those coal miners still trapped?
\_ No, I imagine their spirits escaped quite a while ago.
\_ which ones? There's been numerous coal mining accidents in the
last few months. |
| 2007/11/30-12/6 [Finance/Investment] UID:48718 Activity:nil |
11/30 http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ajeZ0OYVe4.o 3Q GDP +1.2% compared to second quarter (x 4 = 4.9% at annual rate) Corporate profits -1.2% compared to second quarter When GDP goes up as corporations lose money ... PROFIT!! |
| 2007/11/30-12/6 [Computer/SW/Compilers, Computer/HW/CPU] UID:48719 Activity:moderate |
11/29 From the CSUA minutes:
- Next Gen Console
-- If we have $1800 in our accounts, should we buy a console:
4 votes passes.
-- Console voting: 2 votes each, neither passes
* 360 = 600, more games
* PS3 = 650, not as many games
Does this mean the CSUA already has a Wii?
Since when is, "more expensive, fewer games" an argument for something?
I guess if they're gonna install Linux and try some Cell development,
THAT would be cool, but I don't think that's what they want it for.
\_ Netrek is free.. but you need to have skills
\_ I think the decision should be based on which you can hack and/or
boot alternate OS's on. I think there is a clear answer here...
\- YMWTS: KYELICK et al paper "The potential of the cell processor
for scientific computing" on the POWER of the CELL. Interesting
and quick read. Note: KYELICK now the Director of NERSC.
\_ Yeah, but Roadrunner (A combo Opteron/Cell cluster proposed
at Los Alamos) is still a dumb idea.
\_ Why do you say that? I'd be more concerned about using
/panfs as the storage system. Panasas might be ok by the
time it is deployed. A lot of impressive people there,
but mixed experiences in practice.
\_ The Cell already has a perfectly good general processor
attached to it. (A dual core power 5). What's the
Opteron doing there? The last thing the Cell
development tool kit needs is another totally different
processor to work with. Yea! A third compiler! For
hevean's sake, they don't even have the same endianness!
processor to work with. Yeah! Another compiler! For
hevean's sake, the don't even have the same endianness!
\- ibm and amd are working together on a few things
like socket compat between POWER-tng and Opteron,
and Torrenza(sp?)/HTX rather than PCIe. the HPC space
is very different from the rest of the world ...
on a $100m computer you have a legion of programers
to work on tweaking code, compilers because they
are no longer dominated by "expensive programmer
time costs".
\_ While everything you say is true, I can't see how
that excuses creating a totally wacky, needlessly
difficult architecture. Even Los Alamos
doesn't have infinite resources, programmer time
still costs money, money Los Alamos doesn't have.
Not to mention, they're buying the whole machine,
whole hog. No small test prototype. On a totally
untestest architecture.
\- no offense intended here, but are you just
reading articles on the net or do you have
some experience with how large HPC procurements
are done? i dont have any specific knowledge
of Los Alamos/Roadrunner but two things dont
ring true: 1. los alamos being on the hook for
all the dev and tuning work 2. ibm just being
responsible for dropping the machine off at
the loading dock and being done ... the "whole
machine whole hog" part. usually there are
lots of partial milestones involved. although
the somewhat dirty not that secret part of
this is those milestones are never missed
with major consequences. [well maybe once,
but not with one of the main *hpc* vendors.
i cant mention which well known vendor it was].
\_ Sorry, I didn't mean to imply what you've
read into the 'whole hog' statement. I
guess that was really poor word choice. I
just meant that Los Alamos didn't buy a
small prototype cluster to see how well this
thing will work in production, as is
normally done. I'm aware IBM has milestones
and will support the cluster. |
| 2007/11/30-12/3 [Uncategorized] UID:48720 Activity:nil |
11/30 I guess Heaven needed a daredevil. RIP Evel Knievel
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8T884N01&show_article=1 |
| 2007/11/30-12/6 [Politics/Domestic/Abortion, Health/Disease/General] UID:48721 Activity:high |
11/30 http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/11/30/hostin.abortion.pill.cnn Totally awesome man. Spike your mistress' drink with abortion pills and get jailed for killing unborn child. \_ What charges do you think were appropriate? \_ Willful endangerment of mother? Drugging without consent? Perhaps there's a stringent reading of date-rape drug laws that would suffice. -!op \_ So you think forcing an abortion on someone is only worth a minor drug charge? If someone did that to your wife would you be ok with the 6 months probation your list would get someone? \_ Assault and battery? Malicious poisoning? I see what you mean, and I'm trying to get at a suitable charge that matches the egregious nature of the crime against the mother without having to assign citizens' rights to the unborn. \_ Do you think a&b on a woman should yield the same charges/punishment as a&b on a woman that leads to her unborn miscarrying? Does the pregnancy have no value? \_ I believe the pregnancy has value _to the mother_ and should therefore be taken into consideration. I don't think the pregnancy has an innate value apart from to the mother, and the fetus itself has no rights apart from those granted it by the mother (and, in a cold, legal sense, the value it has to the mother). \_ Ok the pregnancy has value to the mother. I don't see where you're going with that. Again: when you are responsible for killing a woman's unborn child what should the right punishment be? And seriously, I'd check with a woman before trying to claim "the pregnancy has no innate value apart from the mother". \_ You misread: I said "the pregnancy has no innate value apart from _to_ the mother." The right punishment depends on whether killing the woman's unborn child is a crime. If she asks you to do so, then no. In this case, yes. As such, the punishment should reflect the loss to the mother. \_ I didn't misread at all. I quoted exactly what you said and kept the context. Now then, of course killing her unborn child is a crime, don't be daft. It wasn't a legal abortion, it was killed. The only question is what is the correct punishment. So far the motd has offered a $50 fine, 6 months probation and banned from practicing medicine in that state. whoop-de-doo. Go ask your wife/gf what the punishment should be and get back to me. \_ 1) You didn't quote me exactly: you missed the "to." 2) I've already agreed with you that it's a crime in this case. \_ All this stuff is a side show. What penalty is appropriate? So far the motd says $50 and 6 months probation. \_ Before I do so, I want you to explicitly state that you won't turn any punishment proposed into into a "Well, if for this, why not the same for abortion?" nonsense spiel. \_ One thing I find suspicious is that most arguments for abortion vanish with sufficient technology. This means that either you should believe morality changes with technology or you should believe abortions are wrong. -- ilyas \_ or it means ilyas is an idiot \_ How about "practising medicine without a license"? I heard even a good samaritan without a CPR license applying CPR to save someone's life can be charged with this. -- !OP \_ Oh yeah right, so that'll get him what? 3 months probation and a $50 fine and he won't be allowed to practive medicine in that state again? Again, if this was your wife who got her child force aborted, what charges would you think were sufficient and would your wife agree? \_ Practicing medicine without a license is a serious felony, with a one year prison sentence as possible punishment. ObGetAClue \_ Yes and the odds of 1 year for a first offense is about zero. So now you think 1 year is enough for killing her unborn child? Is that a good punishment to you? \_ Your claim was that the punishment was a $50 fine. Your claim is BS, as I have demonstrated. I think that is about the right punishment for the crime of "practicing medicine without a license." I don't really know what the penalty is for poisoning someone such that they had an involuntary abortion, but it should probably be a bit higher than that. \_ Not sure about that one, but the California Court of Appeal, Second Appellate District, Division 3 did reverse a Good Samaritan case where a GS moved an accident victim and may have caused paralysis: http://csua.org/u/k4x (About.com) \_ Gee. Was it the crash victim or the family who sued the GS rescuer? |
| 2007/11/30-12/6 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:48722 Activity:kinda low |
11/30 http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/30/clinton.office/index.html Liberals dressed up as Republicans hold hostages in Clinton 08 Campaign Office to gain sympathy and hatred for Republicans. \_ What makes you think they are liberals? Sounds more like Islamo-Facists to me. \_ Until we hear more, I suspect your average loony. \_ "The suspect was a well-known local man with a history of emotional issues who allegedly told his son to watch the news, a well-placed law enforcement source told ABC News' Pierre Thomas." http://blogs.abcnews.com/rapidreport/2007/11/hostage-situati.html \_ Huh? Is Karl Rove working for the Democrats now? That's his kind of trick. \_ "If you found out that Hillary Clinton was a satan-worshipping lesbian who kidnapped and tortured her own campaign staff, would it make you any less likely to vote for her?" \_ Hell no, she'd still be better than any Republican. \_ Except Ron Paul \_ That reply explains so much seen on the motd. \_ It was a Jew. Probably one of those deranged settler types. \_ I'm still waiting for my share of Global Jewish Power. I sent in the SASE and everything. --Forgotten by ZOG \_ Yes, I WANT ME GOLD. -- ilyas \_ I didn't get my share of gold in the mail either. -Forgotten |
| 2007/11/30-12/6 [Recreation/Dating, Computer/SW/Graphics] UID:48723 Activity:moderate |
11/30 Beowulf 3D IMAX. Totally amazing.
\_ seconded. Don't just go see it -- Experience it. -ERic
\_ third -- PROUD TO HAVE SCANDANAVIAN BLOOD BABY!!!
\_ Even just 3D at the AMC in Emeryville was awesome. --erikred
\_ Enjoyed Angelina's boobs. Too bad 3D didn't accentuate them more.
\_ that was a computer generated model of them. Enhanced, of course.
\_ Was there any plot or acting or is this pure eye candy? I'd like
to go in with the right attitude. Thanks.
\_ If Angelina's super enhanced 3D boobs isn't enough of a reason,
then it's not worth it. Go see it for her super boobs.
\_ Mostly eye-candy. --erikred
\_ Thanks for both replies. Eye candy mode... ACTIVATE!
\_ I saw it in IMAX tonight. The dragon was great, the IMAX was
annoying at first until they calmed down and just let it be a
natural part of the show, the angelina jolie creature looked like
a plastic doll with her head on top; wasn't doing anything for me.
\_ Isn't that what Angelina Jolie always looks like? (Along with
those plastic lips, yuck.) -hasn't seen the movie.
\_ More so than usual. :) |
| 2007/11/30-12/6 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:48724 Activity:low |
11/30 "The Bush administration is working with industry on a plan to extend
lower, introductory interest rates on home loans before they reset
at higher levels."
Wait whatever happened to Bush's strong stance towards FREE MARKET
without fucking intervention from the government?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22039594
\_ He's under tremendous pressure to do something whether he wants
to or not.
\_ Polls don't matter! I read it on the motd, Bush will do what
is right, no matter what the polls say.
\_ If you don't understand the difference between lip service to ideals
and actually believing them what are you doing paying any attention
to politics?
\_ he could stick to his ideals and let the FREE MARKET decide, by
letting people trapped into these 'bad bad loans' move by banning all
early payment penalties in existing loans.
letting people trapped into these 'bad bad loans' move by banning
all early payment penalties in existing loans.
\_ I don't think prepayment penalties are really at the heart
of the issue here.
\_ A fine question, and one of the reason that conservatives are
unhappy with Bush. -emarkp
\_ A good president works hard to prevent any of his association
\_ A good president works hard to prevent any association
with recession (case in point Read My Lips George).
\_ that sounds like something a terrorist would say!
\- ^sounds^sounds suspiciously |
| 2007/11/30-12/3 [Uncategorized] UID:48725 Activity:kinda low |
*/* Purged from here down to save a certain motd poster from further
embarassing himself.
\_ Really, when has a purge for these reasons every been effective?
\_ It wasn't restored so I'd say this one worked. At least the
person wasn't dumb enough to restore their own rants or whine
that they weren't embarassing. That's a plus. |