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| 2007/11/29-12/4 [Recreation/Dating] UID:48709 Activity:nil |
11/29 BSD:Razor was pretty dumb
\_ Do you mean BSG?
\_ If they mean BSG, I liked it. I saw it in the advance theater
screening. Great date movie if you like smart women,
screening. Great date movie if you date cylons
particularly women with physics PhD's. -dans
\_ If you're going to edit my posts, please don't introduce
punctuation errors. -dans
\_ I was expecting to hate it because it wasn't a continuation of
the series, but I liked it.
\_ It's really dark. I like that. -dans |
| 2007/11/29-12/4 [Uncategorized] UID:48710 Activity:nil |
11/29 what happened to A-Rod? What's the latest? |
| 2007/11/29-12/6 [Recreation/Travel/LasVegas, Finance/Shopping, Finance/Banking] UID:48711 Activity:nil |
11/29 I just found out that I am American Indian. The White Man took
away my ancestors' ancestral lands, stuck them in camps, you know,
the usual. I am perfectly functional member of society. What
are some cool ways I can take advantage of my status? Can I
get cheap loans? Grants? ok tnx.
\_ What percentage and what tribe? I understand that With some tribes
you can get grants, or casino funds. I think for most tribes you
don't get jack. But, IANAI.
\_ Become an alcoholic.
\_ Can you prove it? There are lots of Native Americans who cannot
prove that they are because of poor documentation. If you can't
prove it then forget it.
\_ Live on the Res.
\_ Tell us what tribe and I might be able to tell you your chances of
getting anything from this, but: you need to be enrolled, the tribe
doesn't have to enroll you even if you qualify on paper, most tribes
with money require that you live on the res and despite what some
motd posters think, the typical tribe member is not sitting in that
casino hotel jacuzzi snorting coke with $100 bills.
\_ Are you crazy? Try $20 bills. |
| 2007/11/29-12/6 [Politics/Domestic/Abortion, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:48712 Activity:high |
11/29 Michelle Malkin has collected youtube profiles/images of questioners
from last night's debate. Several of the questioners are openly
supporting Democrat candidates. Don't bother telling me how much you
hate Malkin. Look at the evidence presented about how CNN is
incompetent.
http://csua.org/u/k44 (michellemalkin.com)
\_ I'm confused by the outrage. Same thing happened with the July
debate with the Democrats.
\_ And yet the questions still managed to address significant GOP
issues. How'd that happen?!? Oh, wait, it's because when you're
not MM or AC, thinking outside your talking points isn't that
hard.
\_ Not issues for people voting in the R primary.
\_ I'm voting in the R primary, and they were issues I was
interested in.
\_ Oh really? Which issues?
The Confederate Flag?
Whether they believe in every word in the Bible?
What would Jesus do about the death penalty?
\_ Gun control, abortion, and taxes. Way to cherrypick.
\_ I frankly don't believe you. When you say you're
voting in the R primary, is that because you're a
registered R? Or because you're a D in an open
primary state?
\_ I'm registered R, and I frankly don't care if
you believe me. Also, are gun control, abortion,
and taxes not important to people voting in the
R primary? They were covered in the questions.
\_ Gun control and taxes matter, but abortion
doesn't because a president can't affect it.
\_ Errr.. sort of. The Religious Right is
very interested in what the president thinks
of abortion because the prez appoints
to the Supreme Court. And the SC could
overturn Roe vs Wade.
\_ The RR is a minority part of the R party.
So sure it concerns that segment, but it
does not concern most R at all.
\_ Sure, I'm R and I don't care. But the
RR exterts disproportinal control over
the primary system.
Addendum: For example, Huckabee is
doing so well in Iowa because RRs
don't trust Romney. He who wins
Iowa...
\_ You and MM are right, Democrats should not be allowed to participate
in the political process anymore. No Free Speech For Democrats!
\_ Excellent straw man sir!
\_ Isn't that what you are complaining about? I don't get it,
do you really think that Democrats should not be allowed
to ask Republicans questions during debates?
\_ The people in question aren't simply Dems, they're openly
supporting different candidates. They're not interested in
the answer, they're just bomb-throwing.
\_ I am pretty sure you don't lose your free speech rights
simply because you declare allegiance to a particular
candidate. Did these people lie and claim they were
undecided, so that they could get permission to ask
questions by CNN? Otherwise, I can't imagine what your
beef would be. Can I go to a Romney rally and ask him
a question, even though I am an Edwards supporter? Why
the heck not? I might even change my mind!
\_ Wow, are you really this clueless? I didn't say you
lose any "free speech rights". However, there is a
difference between honest questions and
bomb-throwing.
\_ Yes, only questions pre-screened and OK'd by the
candidates should be allowed near any Republican.
\_ Or Hillary
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/11/diamond_v_pearl_student_blasts_1.php
\_ I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
What you call "bomb-throwing" I call healthy
debate and integral to the democratic process.
It is pretty funny for a MM reader to complain
about bomb-throwing.
\_ And it's pretty funny when someone uses "free
speech rights" in this context. Wow.
\_ How do you even register to post in that blog?
\_ The problem was that CNN was deceitful. If they had put "General
Bob Smith, (D) Activist" next to the name of the guy they flew in
and put in the front row, then it would be lame but not piss anyone
off. These were supposed to be "undecided (R) voters" which
several clearly were not. And this is the same motd crowd that was
so concerned that Foxnews was going to abuse their position if they
ran a debate, yet you find this a-ok. Sheesh.
\_ Again, same thing happened in the Dem debate. No one cared
until CNN released a statement saying there would be no "gotcha
questions" in the R debate. The other MM (media matters) noted
this and pointed out the multiple gotchas they let into the D
debate. Now, if Malkin had been complaining about gotchas after
they said they wouldn't have them, she might have a point. With
this post she's just a crybaby.
\_ I don't read/watch Malkin so I have no idea what she said
and don't really care. In the Dem debate we had Hillary
plants there for her. In the Rep debate we had Hillary,
Edards, Obama, and CNN plants. Neither situation is
acceptable to me. This just further enforces my belief
that the US 'main stream media' is biased to such a degree
that they should be dismissed entirely as the yellow rag
'journalists' they are. I would like to note that we didn't
see Rep plants in either debate but that's another matter.
\_ In the Dem CNN/YT debate, there were questions that were
most likely from R supporters. But no one went and tried
to pin them down as R supporters, because attacking the
questioner rather than answer a valid question is in the
R playbook. Not so much with the D's. You're showing
your bias in trying to determine cnn's.
R playbook. Not so much with the Ds. Being of the other
party does not negate one's right to ask a question in an
open debate. Instead of running from them, or whining
about them, why not try and give cogent answers and, y'know
try and persuade people...
\_ Which questions? And who do you think did the tracking?
Random people on the net who post on (R) blogs. Nothing
is stopping you from tracking down the qusetioners to
see if your allegations are even true. If they are,
then let us know, until then you're blowing smoke and
tossing out red herrings. No one said you don't have a
right to ask a question. That's a strawman. It has
been stated quite clearly the issue is they were
falsely presented as "undecided (R) voters" or in the
case of Hillary plants at the D debate, as "undecided
(D) voters" when in fact they were political operatives.
And in the case of the (R), they did answer, even though
several of the questions were stupid. That was a good
effort at distracting from the real point about dirty
politics on the part of CNN and Hillary but no dice.
\_ When/where did CNN say the questions came from
"undecided (R) voters"? This is important. If they
did say this, then you have a point. I don't think
they did, though. And as you've based your entire
argument and outrage on this point, I suggest you
look carefully.
\_ Both debates were choosing people in that context.
This is how questioners have been chosen in
debates in recent years. This is nothing new.
So, if I'm right and they said these were supposed
to be undecided voters in each debate, then what?
Do you finally agree the debates were fucked?
And frankly, even if that weren't flat out stated,
they should still have properly identified the
people, but that's a hypothetical. I don't want
to go off on some tangent about that at this
point.
\_ You repeat your assertion with no supporting
evidence. Show me where CNN said "This is how
we're choosing the questioners". IMO, these
questions were decidedly less offensive than
those of Russert or Blitzer (raise your hand?
seriously?). I would love to go back to LWV
moderation with decent questions and actual
discussion, but these complaints are overblown
and really crybabyish.
\_ No, this is not generally how questioners are
chosen in debates, not in the ones I have
watched over the years. You are just blowing
smoke at this point and I think you know it.
\_ Wow, way to make shit up to cover for lame
debate moderators and slimey tactics from
the (D). Even the LATimes published a
piece on how shitty CNN did. When the LAT
not only doesn't support your left wing
agenda but out right bashes you, you have
a problem. You=CNN in this case. I notice
you completed ignored my question and just
magically decided with no knowledge that I
and everyone else who has been saying these
were supposed to be normal citizens and not
activists is wrong. I think I've been
trolled. You have yet to answer a single
question I've posed in this thread and
instead just keep throwing bombs.
\_ You are talking to more than one person,
btw. Yes, if a questioner signed some
waiver or made a verbal agreement with CNN
that they were an undecided (R) voter,
then it would be immoral to violate that
agreement. Happy? Now, show me your
evidence that this was the case, or
just admit that this is you and MM's
made up rule, not something that
other people agree to, or even would
agree to, unless they were partisan
loons.
\_ From your source: "Beside considerations\
like these, CNN's incompetent failure
to weed out Democratically connected
\_ From your source: "Beside considerations
like these, CNN's incompetent failure to
weed out Democratically connected
questioners pales." Even the LA Times
agrees that it is no big deal.
\_ "We were looking for people who were
interested enough in the process to ask\
a question," Sam Feist, CNN's political\
director, said Thursday. "We didn't
inquire about people's ideological\
beliefs, and that wasn't relevant. . . .\
We were looking for questions that
would make for an interesting debate."
interested enough in the process to ask
a question," Sam Feist, CNN's political
director, said Thursday. "We didn't
inquire about people's ideological
beliefs, and that wasn't relevant. . . .
We were looking for questions that would
make for an interesting debate."
\_ I'm now trying to imagine Fox News running the Dem debate:
"First question: When did you first start hating America?"
\_ You'll have to keep imagining since Fox was never given a
chance. Do you think CNN should be allowed to hold further
debates after this last performance? How about the previous
one where more Clinton activists were planted in the audience
and there was zero followup to her answers from Blitzer? Was
that a well run debate? |
| 2007/11/29-12/6 [Transportation/Car] UID:48713 Activity:low |
11/29 http://landroller.com The next generation skates on land. Skates (50s) -> Rollerblade (80s) -> Landroller (21st century) \_ see also http://freelineskates.com \_ Looks pretty rough on the ankles. BTW, in-line skates existed before quad skates--they were modeled after ice skates. \_ how is this rougher on the ankles than say, rollerblades? \_ With the support point off to the side, I'd expect a torque, but maybe the support boot puts that on the leg instead of the ankle. \_ The point where the wheels make contact with the ground is below the center of the feet, not to the sides. So this should be no different from rollerblades as far as torque is concerned. \_ Uh no. The point that they connect to the foot is on the side, so regardless of where they go after that, it's the side of the foot that's holding you up. \_ Wait, now that I look more closely, it looks like the the support point is in the middle. My bad. \_ So, does this fact support of dispute the idea that it is better/worse for your ankle -not a skater, no idea what all this means \_ I retract my concerns about ankles. \_ I thought so too, but the testimonials page says otherwise: "the out-of-line design seems to take the strain offf my ankles [no wobbles]..." \_ Look at that hot chick in white bikini and white helmet!! \_ Look at that hot busty chick in white bikini and white helmet!! Er ...... ankle? What? What did you say? |
| 2007/11/29-12/6 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:48714 Activity:low |
11/29 Global Warming causes everything. Well, at least 600 things:
http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm
\_ get it strait, its Global Climate Change.
\_ get it straight, it's straight.
\_ Global Warming causes liberals to fume and making everyone
upset and pissed off about everything. Fuck Global Warming.
\_ If only all those Kyoto signing countries had come even close to
their goals the world might have pushed GCC back by a few weeks. |
| 2007/11/29-30 [Health] UID:48715 Activity:moderate |
11/29 motd gaping bleeding asshole guy here. the blood didnt come out.
\_ replace the stained clothes with new ones. Are they really
worth this much consternation, or are you just trolling the motd?
\_ The best way to remove your old blood from clothes is to bleed
on them again, copiously, and then properly remove the new blood. |
| 2007/11/29-12/6 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:48716 Activity:nil |
11/29 Scientists Working to Advance Wilhelm Reich's Sexual Energy-Cosmic
Life Force Work
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,308462,00.html |