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2007/10/31 [Politics/Domestic] UID:48494 Activity:nil
10/30   From the very beginning Alexis attention deficit disorder and
        complete disinterest in all things academic made it obvious that she
        wouldn't be moving mountains with her intelligence. By the end of her
        fifth grade year, however, she had shed a large amount of baby fat
        only for it to slowly migrate to one centralized location in her
        upper torso. By the time she reached high school, she was not only
        sporting boobs on the upper end of Double D, but sported a derriere
        which had been dubbed by most of the student body as
        "un-fucking-believable."
2007/10/31-11/2 [Finance/Investment] UID:48495 Activity:nil
10/31   Can someone please explain to me why the Fed is about to cut rates
        again when:
        1) The dow is only slightly off it's all time high.
        2) Oil is at or above $90.
        3) The dollar is going off a cliff.
        4) GDP grew 3.9% in the 3rd quarter.
        5) P&G and Colgate are announcing big price increases.
        \_ Credit is very tight right now.  They can increase the money supply
           by printing dollars, or decreasing rates.  I personally hope they
           keep it tight until all the bad loans fall out.
           \_ I agree, flush out all the bad apples, start with a clean slate
        \_ Unemployment is up, GDP growth over the last year has been 1.8%,
           which is well below what the economy should be able to perform,
           and "core" inflation is low. The weak dollar might even be thought
           to be a positive, because it is contributing to economic growth
           and helping to solve the trade deficit. Overall, I think the Fed
           is worried about a recession (which they should be, imo).
        \_ ... and, USG thinks there won't be significant capital flight even
           with continued rate cuts and hits on the dollar--that U.S. markets
           will be perceived as a deteriorating, but performing investment.
           USG will slow rate cuts / tighten if this becomes less true.
2007/10/31-11/2 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:48496 Activity:nil
10/31   I've seen this picture of Hillary several times.  What was the context
        of the picture?
        http://bp3.blogger.com/_YvDCrB8xy-s/RyiqioeXEDI/AAAAAAAAAaQ/cTx3UutzmVk/s1600-h/hillary-freaky.jpg
           \_ Isn't this supposed to be no troll day? Bad troll, no donut.
        \_ Why don't you ask your friends on LGF and The Free Republic, where
           you saw this? Hey, isn't this supposed to be no troll day? Bad troll,
           no donut.
        \_ Isn't this supposed to be no troll day? Bad troll, no donut.
           \_ This isn't a troll.  Seriously, everyone takes bad pictures, and
              this one just comes up when people criticize her.  I just want to
              know what speech or event it comes from. -op
           \_ Scary.  You should print that out and make a mask of it and go
              around scarnig people.
2007/10/31-11/2 [Finance/Investment] UID:48497 Activity:kinda low
10/31   Bought a bunch of GOOG at ~$450. Sold 1/2 at around $650. I'm
        thinking of dumping 1/2 again (1/4 of original). What do you
        guys think? Are you holding on or what?
        \_ I bought at $300 and sold at $550, but only because my wife
           wanted a kitchen remodel. In general, I think buy and hold
           is the best solution, though I will often do as you do and
           sell half after a significant runup. If I was still holding
           GOOG, I would have sold half at $600 and be keeping the rest.
           \_ Ok so let's say you sold 1/2 at $600, how much higher would
              it have to be before you decided to sell another 1/2?
              \_ I use trailing stops, so it would have to hit my stop. I
                 would never sell a stock just because it has gone up "too
                 much." I have learned the hard way that this is a bad idea.
                 In a stock that had gone up that much, my trailing stock
                 would be waaay back there, like 25% below where it is now.
                 Ideally, I would want to hold it until retirement. I can
                 give you a list of stocks that I am currently holding
                 that have gone up 200% or more that I will probably never
                 sell. I can also give you a list of stocks that I sold
                 too soon because I thought they had already gone up
                 "enough."
                 \_ I thought about this some more and decided that
                    my best advice is for you is to come up with
                    some guidelines for yourself that determine when
                    you should buy and sell (before you buy) and stick
                    to those rules. Change the rules on the basis of
                    what you learn over time. You first need to decide
                    why you are investing and if the answer is just
                    "try to make money fast" then the stockmarket is
                    possibly not the right venue for that.
        \_ I bought at $450 and am holding pending a significant change
           in the business or the environment.  -tom
           \_ Of course, the problem here is if there is a significant change,
              all the brokers will be able to sell faster than you and the
              price will drop before you can sell.  I've read that you get
              within 20% of what you think the max should be you're doing great
              \_ I'm not trying to time the market; I'm staying invested in
                 a company with good revenues, earnings, and growth potential.
                 You are correct that if Google misses significantly on
                 earnings, the stock will go down.  20% would be a drop of
                 140 points; I'm pretty sure I would manage to sell if there
                 were a fundamental change, before Google drops 140 points.
                   -tom
        \_ I'm generally a buy and hold guy, but this is an unusual case.  It
           really depends on what you think.  Are you a "The sky is the limit"
           GOOG guy, or are you a "Tech Bubble 2.0" guy?  If you're the former,
           hold on.  If you're the latter, sell it all and count your money.
           It's already been a great investment, I think you could sell with
           out regret. But I'm a "Tech Bubble 2.0" guy.
           \_ One thing about "Tech Bubble 2.0"; it may be.  But I own AMZN
              from Tech Bubble 1.0, and it's up 171%.  Good companies will
              provide good returns.  -tom
              \_ but there is a distinction between a good company and a
                 good stock. GOOG is beginning to act like IOMG. -daveh
                 \_ I see no parallel at all between Google and Iomega.
                    What are you comparing?  -tom
        \_ http://www.csua.org/u/jvi (Seeking Alpha)
           GOOG now fifth largest company by market cap. But it would have
           to be $1500/share to be larger than XOM... Go GOOG Go!
2007/10/31-11/2 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics/Domestic/911] UID:48498 Activity:nil
10/31   Ex-CIA analyst Larry Johnson on one reason for intelligence failures
        http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2007/oct/30/one_reason_for_intelligence_failures
2007/10/31-11/2 [Recreation/Dating] UID:48499 Activity:low
10/31   who is most famous singer songwriter duo consisting of
        ex husband and ex wife?
        \_ timbuk3
        \_ the only one that I am aware of are the White Stripes
        \_ Someone deleted my comment, but I mentioned both "White Stripes"
           and "Sonny and Cher".
           \_ Did Sonny and Cher actually join up again after divorcing apart
              from one TV appearance?
              \_ No idea. Isn't one TV appearance enough? There are lots
                 of cases where ex-bf and ex-gf stayed in a group
                 together including No Doubt and Fleetwood Mac. Not sure
                 why marriage matters in this equation.
                 \_ op's parameters
2007/10/31-11/2 [Uncategorized] UID:48500 Activity:nil
10/31   Is there an equivalent of "p4 blame" in svn?
        \_ You mean like "svn blame"?
         \_ AKA svn praise or svn annotate
         \_ Cool THANKS. I don't know why I didn't try that. How do I
            access the revision number to the left?
        \_ What version of Perforce is that?  My Perforce doesn't have this
           command.
        \_ What version of Perforce is that?  My Perforce (2004.2) doesn't
           have this command.
           \_ Mine doesn't either. I am running 2006.2.
2007/10/31-11/2 [Finance/Investment] UID:48501 Activity:nil
10/31   http://www.markit.com/information/products/abx.html
        Yay, AA-rated securities rated 48 cents on the dollar!
        \_ Housing, it only goes up!
        \_ Why didn't anyone warn us that this would happen?
           \_ ObSwamiSux
2007/10/31-11/2 [Computer/SW/Languages] UID:48502 Activity:nil
10/31   X11 question. If I set XUSERFILESEARCHPATH in my .cshrc and source
        my .cshrc then my app finds the app-defaults file I want. If I do a
        setenv in the shell then my app cannot find it. Why will this work
        when the variable is set in my .cshrc and not at the prompt?
        \_ look at how your apps are started.  Do they spawn from your
           shell (if so they're resetting their environment).  If they
           are started by something else (i.e. your desktop) you need the
           setenv set before the desktop starts. -ERic
2007/10/31-11/2 [Politics/Domestic/HateGroups] UID:48503 Activity:low
10/31   Fred Phelps gets $11 million spanking.
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071031/ap_on_re_us/funeral_protests
        \- are naive "force or fraud" libertarians outraged?
           \_ This verdict is absurd and will be overturned. Phelps clearly
              has free speech protection here. Plus, isn't Phelps like the
              best troll ever?
        \_ It will be reduced later of course, but it would be SO SAD if people
           started suing him nonstop and his whole fucked up church went
           bankrupt paying legal fees continuously.
           \- worked against some klan "klavens" ...
              http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html etc
              \_ When Phelps starts lynching people let us know.
2007/10/31-11/2 [Uncategorized] UID:48504 Activity:nil
10/31   Is there a way to use NX through SSH?
        \_ Yes.
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