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| 2007/10/25-29 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:48440 Activity:high |
10/25 Lefty enemies of free speech force Horowitz from stage.
http://csua.org/u/jto
\_ not gonna read it. you could have written that headline before
he did his stupid islamo facism week.
\_ Oh, come on. There's video of the nutters on the site. Doesn't
that get your anti-free-speech blood riled up?
\_ It's amazing how all the leftists have plenty of opportunities to
speak, but they seem to be the only ones shutting down speech on
the other side. -op
\_ Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! The blatant disregard for
reality is charming!
\_ So which are you claiming--that leftists *don't* have
plenty of opportunities to speak? Or that they're the only
ones chasing their opponents off the stage?
\_ http://cdn.moveon.org/data/ShutUp_Final_BbandLo.mov
\_ Oh you've got to be kidding me. O'Reilly's show is
hardly a public forum.
\_ Oh, right, and he's "only an entertainer," so
there you go.
\_ You can't see the diff between a staged TV
show where the paid host kicks off a 'guest'
he doesn't like, and a public speech getting
mobbed?
\_ If a bunch of raving lefties stormed the
Fox News HQ and mobbed BO'R, would you
say "Fair play"?
\_ You mean all those people who were arrested for
booing or heckling Bush?
\_ Are you taking your ball with you?
\_ No free speech for fascists!
\_ That was always my favorite line from the Sproul Plaza chanting
idiots.
\_ They may be serious students of the French revolution and
are engaging in a clever word play on "No liberty
for the enemies of liberty!". Or maybe not.
\_ horowitz deliberately sets up shit like this. he's been doing it
for years. gonna ignore him.
\_ If only other people ignored him, rather than chasing him out of
the room, there wouldn't be a problem.
\_ Sure he's doing it for PR but he has a point about the
censorship thing. (And please don't quote the dictionary
definition at me.)
\_ "Your Honor, I did rape the defendant, but look at what the
bitch was wearing!" -- ilyas |
| 2007/10/25-29 [Uncategorized/Multicategory] UID:48441 Activity:nil |
10/25 Opera 9.5 beta is out, including the new link feature that allows you
to sync bookmarks across computers, including the mobile version.
http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?custom=yes
\_ Why would anyone want to use Opera over FF? What features does
O provide that FF+extensions does not?
\_ I avoided using opera for really long time until recently when
I had to reinstall linux on my *old* laptop with only 384MB of
RAM. Just loading firefox (version 2, as the dist didn't
include 1.5) took up so much memory that it caused the system
to swap in and out constantly. Yeah, linux VM isn't the
greatest, but having a lightweight option is a good thing.
Opera 9.3 ran smoothly on it (as long as I didn't visit a flash
heavy site.)
\_ Hmmm, ok. Opera is good for low end machines, has less
bloat/features. I can see that. Thanks. |
| 2007/10/25-26 [Recreation/Food] UID:48442 Activity:kinda low |
10/25 motd wheat gluten guy here. Now I think I might have borderline
diabetes. Eating a lot of food makes me tired. How do I figure it
out? I had a blood test a year ago, if I had diabetes, would
the doctor notice?
\_ Doesn't eating a lot of food make everyone older than 25 tired?
\_ Probably. Checking for blood sugar is routine. Mine's always
been testing in the normal range and *I* get tired after eating
too much.
\_ So what drives you to post a new fake medical problem the the
motd every few months? Is this a new form of trolling?
\_ No it's called being an American. Especially if the
illness relates to food in some form. (Of course considering
the eating habits of most Americans it's probably not too
suprising.)
\_ I'm not sure what you're talking about. I'm not trolling.
Sorry if I don't post about fucking dog care or something.
\_ It's called food coma. I think it's more common for those with
low blood pressure. |
| 2007/10/25-26 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:48443 Activity:high |
10/25 how does Microsoft and Facebook sit around and magically decide
that Microsoft now owns 1.5 percent of Facebook? And that 1.5
percent is worth X. and now Facebook is worth 15 billion? The more
I think about it, the more I think the entire global economy is
a consensual hallucination.
\_ Valuation is hard. Let's go shopping!
\_ facebook decides they have 'X' shares. Microsoft offers to pay
Y dollars for .015 of them. Therefore facebook is valued at
Y * 100 / .015.
Y dollars for 1.5% of them. Therefore facebook is valued at
Y / .015.
\_ it still seems like someone is making shit up and asking
the rest of the world to believe them.
\_ Fixed the math error, can't believe nobody caught it.
\_ How does anything in the world have a value/price? Take an
economics/finance class. It's not a secret.
\_ I know this, but do you really think a website of intangible
shit is really worth 15 billion?
\_ I don't, but Microsoft, who seems to know how to make money, does
\_ The whole web is intangible. Is it worthless? Is Google worth
$0? No. Sites like FB have tremendous numbers of people
logging in everyday. Reaching that many people, and often
having self-provided info on them has tremendous advertising
value. Do you still think FB is intangible shit? What about
Google?
\_ Do a little search on DCF (Discount Cash Flow). If you pay
1 billion for a company, you need to calculate how much time it
would take for it to return your 1 billion dollars. That way you
can calculate what your rate of return is. Look at Ebay's
recent write down of skype. That's a textbook example of CEO
stupidity. Ballmer is probably not thinking straight. His desire
to beat google and apple is clouding his thinking. If you want
to invest in companies that understand DCF and are not swayed by
the latest "fad", look at oil companies like XOM and VLO. XOM
management will crunch numbers to death before making an investment.
If the numbers doesn't make sense they will not invest in it. That
is why they're the company with the largest market cap in the world.
That's why they will be the first $1 trillion dollar company.
In 5 years, we'll see if Google overpaid for youtube or MSFT
overpaid for Facebook or you overpaid for VMware. -the oil man
\_ You aren't paying enough attention to the details of the deal.
M$ bought the only part of the company that is worth anything
(the ad revenue) for $250M while preserving the fiction that
FaceBook is worth $15B, assuaging Zuckerber's ego. Why anyone
still does business with M$ is beyond me. Have any of their
business partners not been screwed by them? |
| 2007/10/25-26 [Uncategorized] UID:48444 Activity:nil |
10/25 How about some Ted Rall bait? Classicly vile!
http://www.gocomics.com/rallcom/2007/10/22/?loc=interstitialskip
\_ Typical: he asserts that the decision to pull out is dumb, but he
doesn't back up his assertion.
\_ uh... i think you're missing the point
\_ Hahahaha, googling for Ted Rall returns this gem from MM:
"Ted Rall, you see, is a very useful idiot. Whereas most on
the Left attempt to conceal their liberal racism in the
drapery of .diversity...."
Anyone who pisses off MM is golden in my book.
\_ It's Ted Rall. I didn't know anyone still read his junk.
\_ Hmmm, maybe you're right. It could be his whole target
demographic has become right-wingers who want to be trolled. |
| 2007/10/25-29 [Recreation/Dating] UID:48445 Activity:very high |
10/25 Does anyone think "Tila Tequila" is good looking? She looks like some
kind of plastic freak to me.
\_ Like I said, I don't know what is it you Berkeleyeans have
for Asian women. Flat chest, small beady eyes, with the figure
of little boys. Seriously, what is it about Asian women you like?
\_ I prefer slender, youthful looking women. Asian women particular
tend to keep their looks as they get older.
\_ I'm not sure I agree that Asian women look more youthful
when they get older than women of other races.
\_ You haven't spent much time around the typical overtanned
Southern Calinfornia blonde chick then.
\_ "Overtanned blonde chicks" make up what percentage
of women? Overtanned Asian chicks age poorly, too, and
I've seen plenty of those as well. The sun is damaging.
May as well mention that all of these representative
blonde chicks in your universe smoke, too.
\_ By 45, most white women are overweight and wrinkled
and greying. Black women probably age better than
asians, but asians beat whites.
\_ If you look at the estrogen output production
of different races you'll see that white women
output much greater estrogen lvls than Asians
as they age, hence by the time they're of
productive age they've gotten a much bigger
boob, smaller (proportionally) waiste, rounder
butts, etc. Asian women on the other hand have
steady, slow estrogen output, hence they tend
to have unattractive boy-like figures. On the
hand white women's estrogen output plateau and
flatten drastically after their reproductive
age and thus their body goes through bigger
changes (pun intended). The analogy is that
white women are like fireworks-- spectacular
for a brief amount of time, whereas Asian
women are like candles-- dull but lasts a
long time. So yes, I agree with what you're
saying, and I recommend dating young white
women, one after another.
\_ Congratulations on finally figuring it out. Such Asian women are
for NAMBLA members who haven't walked out of the closet.
\_ So you think that the 1B or so guys with Asian wives are
all closet NAMBLA members?
\_ 1. Where did you get the 1B number?
2. I was only referring to what was said above -- those
with the figure of little boys.
with the figure of little boys. --- PP
\_ What percentage of the world population is Asian?
Divide in half. So you really think that the entire
popluation of China is closet NAMBLA members? Wow!
\_ 1. Half of the entire population of China are
\_ 1. Roughly half of the entire population of China are
females.
2. Some of the other half are boys and don't have
wives.
3. Most of those that have wives over there don't
have choices of non-Asian wives.
3. Most of the rest that have wives with figures of
little boys don't have choices of non-Asian wives.
\_ Yeah, I am sure all those Chinese peasants are
secretly wishing they date Pamela Anderson...
\_ Bay Watch was fairly widely watched.
Probably for the plot. -- ilyas
\_ OH MY GOD You're so funny ilyas!
can I have your baby?
\_ I miss the old motd trolls. This is
just sad.
\_ Widely watched by Indian and Chinese
villagers who lack electricty? Probably
not.
\_ I think the point is, if you want to
imply there is no notion of universal
sexuality, you have to explain why
most of the world was watching
Bay Watch. -- ilyas
\_ What makes you think they were?
\_ 1.1 billion viewers? Most
watched tv show in history?
-- ilyas
\_ Googling "most watched tv
show in history" gets me
MASH, Dallas, Roots, the
Super Bowl and Cheers. Maybe
it is, but I don't see any
particular evidence of that.
If it is, you have a case, but
I would still like to see
viewing patterns outside the
US and Europe.
\_ If you want to use
wikipedia, at least read
the page. That table is
for a specific broadcast
(hence it has the date).
Now google for "bay watch
most watched." Or check
the Guinness book of world
records if you own it.
-- ilyas
4. I don't think most of man/boy lovers in China are
keen on joining "North-American-MBLA".
So no, I did not imply that the entire population of
China are closet NAMBLA members.
China are closet NAMBLA members. --- PP
\_ Why didn't you just call the strawman a strawman?
\_ Oh, that's right. Thanks. --- PP
\_ Wait, claiming that all guys who marry flat
chested Asian women are NAMBLA members is not
a straw man, but pointing that this is probably
1/4 of the world's population is??? Kook central
here, but I guess I already knew that.
\_ The first one is not a straw man, it is a
troll and a darn good one at that.
\_ It was a troll, but the reply was a
strawman. IMO you should only respond to
trolls to correct facts.
\_ Okay, you tell me. How many men, worldwide, are
married to skinny Asian women?
\_ How many are married to fat Asian women?
\_ I notice you are unable to answer. It
is easily 1B, probably much more.
\_ I'm not the person you are talking
to. I just want to know what
percentage of Asian women are fat,
because I've seen my share of them.
\_ What percentage of Chinese,
Indonesian, Vietnamese and Indian
subsistance farmers are fat? Pretty
low, I'd wager.
\_ Not that flat: link:www.csua.org/u/jtw (http://www.hecklerspray.com
\_ I prefer Asian petite women, but only the busty ones. -- !OP
\_ ^petite^little boy figured^
You Asianphiles are all fucking sicko. Go blondes!!!
\_ Google for "busy petite".
\_ http://images.google.com, search for "busty petite".
\_ Yeah, I thought her big secret was that she used to be a man.
\_ I think that's the big secret she's going to revel at the
end of the series... after she's slept with the guy. She might
think about this first though:
http://www.kxii.com/home/headlines/10778386.html
\_ Hmm, since the hitchhiker had a knife, why didn't he just
smoothly handle the situation and gracefully fix the error by
slicing off the sausage that's not supposed to be there?
\_ hotter than your wife. ding ding ting!
\_ Yes, I think she is hot. |
| 2007/10/25-29 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Dental] UID:48446 Activity:moderate |
10/25 Is there a pill that'll help ppl stop thinking about sex?
\_ Saltpeter!
\_ Old wives tale that doesn't work.
\_ Heroin!
\_ In his new book, Slash (Guns N Roses) says that he dated
Traci Lords and he never had sex with her because he was too
getting high on heroin. Crazy drug.
busy getting high on heroin. Crazy drug.
\_ And paradoxically enough, he's safer shooting up than having
sex with Traci Lords.
\_ Cyanide!
\_ I know I'm just feeding the troll, but the answer is yes. I know
that at least some of the ADD drugs have a side-effect of killing
the libido.
\_ Google for the word "anaphrodisiac"
\_ Plenty of anti-depressants kill your sex drive (as discussed on
the motd plenty of times)
\_ What for? Brush your teeth, shower, ask someone out. |
| 2007/10/25-29 [Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:48447 Activity:high |
10/25 http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/10/25/innocence.project/index.html If a man wasted 1/2 of his life for a crime he didn't commit, will the party that was responsible (e.g. the "state") compensate him? \_ The state only compensates white men. \_ Yes, but only when ordered to by a judge. However, many individuals incarcerated for crimes they didn't commit were already wanted for/ guilty of other crimes they did commit; the charges for those things are generally lumped into the sentence for the thing they didn't commit, so when the time is computed, they often end up barely ahead. Also, when confronted with evidence of other crimes, most agree to not push the issue. \_ uh.... what are you talking about? the people who spent 20 years in jail for a rape or murder they didnt commit seem plenty angry and aren't just going along with their crimes being lumped into a sentence somewhere. guess i got trolled. \_ No troll. While some people who have been wrongly incarcerated will seek (and be rewarded) compensation, many others will not on the basis that they were likely suspects for other crimes. This is not to condone police techniques or excuse bad police work. \_ I'm interested in why you think this actually occurs. The Innocence Project cases I have read about are almost always $BROWN_GUY fingered in some shady police lineup or was picked up by the cops after a crime was committed and they needed a $BROWN_GUY because a witness to a crime said a $BROWN_GUY did something terrible and all @BROWN_GUYS look alike. Where the hell are you getting this "most of these guys don't complain because they did something bad anyway."? I'm not a lawyer, but I think you're a sheltered idiot. \_ And you're a fuckwit. However, I understand your point about how the wrongly convicted should be compensated. I'm suggesting that in a significant number of cases, when the cops go the route of least effort (i.e., laziness) and pin it on a patsy, they pick their patsy on the basis of likeliness to convict, which is to say they put it on someone who's done other things and is likely to serve time for another crime anyway. The Innocence Project is a great idea, but remember that the candidates are pre- screened to weed out the "I got jailed for X when I should have been jailed for Y" crowd. \_ I hope you the next time you drive a cop pulls you over and decides it's just your day and impounds your car and abandons you since you've probably broken a few traffic laws in your life but no one saw you and you merrily went along your way. \_ And I hope you realize that pointing out that things happen is not an endorsement of the way they happen. I support the Innocence Project. \_ Just torture him until he confesses. It's the American Way! \_ Yes, but no amount of monetary compensation can make up for spending half your life in prison. \_ Google: wrongly convicted compensation Lots of good material out there. |
| 2007/10/25-29 [Computer/Networking] UID:48448 Activity:low |
10/25 The cable company has recently added a filter to block out
channel 34-70 on my cable TV. Do they have an electronic way
of knowing whether a filter is present or not for "basic
cable" subscriber? Or do they do this one by one. I've been
without the filter for quit many years. -curious
\_ Dear Curious the Furious: No, they don't know electronically
and they rarely enforce the rules. Go ahead and take it out
but note that you may get fined heavily if someone reports you.
\_ they periodically go and check the cable distribution boxes
where these things are installed, and will notice if it is
suddenly gone. Most likely they'll just put it back.
\_ When I moved to my house in Fremont in 2000, the cable was already
connected. So I enjoyed free cable for a year until the company
somehow figured out and quietly removed a connector in my cable box.
I heard that one way they figure out is that they run specific
infomercials on certain channels. If you don't subscribe to those
channels and you call the phone numbers in those infomercials, they
send someone to check your cable box. (That wasn't the case for me
because I never call any numbers from infomercials.
\_ I enjoyed similar case when I moved into my apt last year.
Something changed in the past few months, so now I get zero
reception on channels 2-6 and mediocre receptions on 36 and up.
I don't understand how things could've changed that blocks 2-6,
but not 7 and up.
\_ Maybe you now don't have cable signal at all, and your cable
wire is acting as an antenna and is picking up the radio
signals for Ch7 and up. You can try disconnecting your wire
from the wall but leaving it connected to the TV and see what
happens. -- PP
\_ These aren't over the air broadcasts. I'm still getting
comedy central and other cable channels. Disconnecting
will make all the channels go away, as most channels are
"snowy" as it is. I've also tried switching my tv's
signal setting from "cable" to "antennae" for shits and
giggles and it wouldn't pick up any channels. I'm wondering
if the cable guy disconnected it from the splitter in the
building junction box, but it's close enough to pick up the
signal? |
| 2007/10/25-29 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/California/Arnold] UID:48449 Activity:nil |
10/25 Fox News blames socal fires on Al Qaida
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Fox_advances_theory_that_CA_fires_1024.html
\_ ... while the spread of the fire is blamed on bureaucracy.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/wildfires_grounded_aircraft
\_ Randi Rhodes blames Blackwater
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2007/10/26/randi-rhodes-suggests-blackwater-started-california-fires |