9/28 Remember, Thugs on Wheels today! Be sure to be armed if you're driving
in SF.
\_ Ride bike!
\_ if you are driving, you already are armed with a perfectly effective
weapon.
\_ So if it is acceptable for a bike rider to smash my windows and
break my car in other ways, is it ok for me to get out of the
car and as a pedestrian, kick in their spokes and break their
handlebars? As a pedestrian I'm far more green than any bike
rider. Just curious. ;-)
\_ The first is not acceptable. It follows, then, that the second
is also not acceptable.
\_ The last time it came up on the motd all sorts of people
defended smashing a minivan. You think the smashers and
the motd posters were wrong?
\_ The last time it came up, all sorts of people pointed
out that the Matier+Ross version of the story made
no sense, and that what obviously happened is that
the driver drove into a group of bicyclists and hit
one and they retaliated. That's not the same as
saying it's OK to smash a minivan. -tom
\_ Where "all sorts of people" = tom
\_ Assuming your version is correct: do you think it
was OK for the bikers to retaliate (your word) and
smash the minivan?
\_ I think as long as there is still the threat of
dangerous and violent behavior on the part of
the driver, the victims are justified in
fighting back.
fighting back. -tom
\_ *laugh* Thanks. I've had a long day but you've
just brought some unintended humor to it. I'm
sure that soccer mom came into the city with
killin' on her mind and blood on the wheels!
Yeehaww, *squick!* another biker down, Paw!
\_ Yeah, that's what the Thugs say.
\_ You didn't get breast fed enough, right?
\_ Perhaps, but it's not terribly selective. If someone is smashing
in your windshield, it'd be nice to target him, rather than
everyone in front of you.
\_ You got beat up a lot in high school and still feel the
need to prove to the world how hard you are, right?
\_ Nope.
\_ Huh?
\_ I would think that if they were smashing in your windshield,
it was because you had targeted them and hit a little too hard.
\_ If you hit them with a car they're not getting back up so
easily.
\_ one of the points of Critical Mass is that there's more
than one of them.
\_ that is why bumpers are wide. squish.
\_ If you plan on coming to The City to commit crimes, please stay
in your own community and do it there. Thanks. -SF Citizen
\_ yeah, especially all you people parking illegally and speeding
on the freeways.
\_ Yes, we *would* like Critical Mass to stay out of SF. Defending
yourself against thugs on wheels isn't a crime. Nor is carrying
a weapon if you have a permit.
\_ Oh you are SO hard. Can I please have sex with you right now?
\_ yeah, so car drivers should beware when they do stupid shit
like try to drive through a pack of cyclists.
\_ which gives us the right to smash their minivans attacking
old people and moms with kids who clearly came in to the
city looking for trouble. next time we'll kill their dogs
too. stay off our streets, we own them! woot!
\_ actually, yes, I think it is completely reasonable
to take physical action against someone who
intentionally ran over multiple people and is trying
to run over more (as was captured on video in the
Berkeley case). -tom
\_ Oh you mean that edited video where you have to really
imagine hard to see that? Only the real kool-aid
drinkers came to that conclusion.
\_ The video was not edited. The van wound up
on top of two bikes with the van wheel off the
ground.
But, forget it, you're just trolling. -tom
\_ The report said, "gave us this edited video."
Which flavor do you prefer, grape or cherry?
\_ The video of the incident is continuous.
-tom
\_ So you've seen the part where the car
enters the group, and the part where the
biker smashes the windshield? Link
please.
\_ http://youtube.com/watch?v=bo4MpO3kBRE
The windshield smashing wasn't captured
by the video because the camera was
pointed elsewhere, but it clearly
happened after the van driver
intentionally ran over two bicyclists
in front of him. -tom
\_ "Get em! Get em now! We've got
soccer practice back in the burbs
in 45 minutes!"
\_ Nice dodge. -tom
\_ Wasn't it a Ford?
\_ Do *you* actually live in San Francisco? -SFC
\_ This all reminds me of the toxic comments on the articles on
http://SFGate.com . There is no way 90 percent of those people live
anywhere near San Francisco. |
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