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2007/9/20-22 [Recreation/Dating] UID:48124 Activity:high
9/20    lastest Dan Savage:
        Q: I have been with my girlfriend for over three years. Our
        relationship has come to the point where we feel that we should
        either get married or go our separate ways. She is a great girl:
        smart, nice, trustworthy. We have a lot of fun together. There's just
        one problem: She hates sex. In her opinion, "sex isn't supposed to be
        fun." She also thinks our sex life is fine. But every time we talk
        about marriage, all I can think about is a lifetime of bad sex!
        Not Totally Screwed

        A: Don't marry this woman, NTS. Not unless you want to be sending me
        a letter like this one in two short years...
        \_ "sex isn't supposed to be fun?"  Is it supposed to hurt?  What?
         \_ It's supposed to make you curl up in the shower and cry till
            the bleeding stops.
            \_ Only the first time.
             \_ You aren't doing it right.
        \_ MOTD told me I was crazy when I said women don't enjoy sex.
           MOTD is better for CS advice.
           \_ if you think women as a class don't enjoy sex, you don't read
              Dan Savage's column very much.
              \_ I'm sure most of those letters are as real the Penthouse
                 Forum letters - probably written by gay and/or pervy men.
                 \_ Just because you refuse to believe something doesn't
                    mean it isn't true.
           \_ Dan Savage agrees with MOTD: if it were normal for women not
              to enjoy sex, he would not be advising dumpage.
              \_ What does Dan Savage know about this? The dude is gay.
                 \_ I love the fucking geniuses we have on motd.  Keep the
                    laughs coming, fucktard.
                    \_ Yes, because reading advice about how much women
                       love sex coming from a gay man makes sense.
                        \_ He's also been writing sex advice columns
                           since before you started masturbating.  (The
                           kind of which he practically invented.)  I think
                           that means more than your 5 minutes of fumbling
                           with what, 3? 4? women over the years.
                           \_ Yes, sex advice columnists are experts. I
                              guess Adam Carolla should have a PhD in
                              sexology based on his radio show.
                           \_ Heck, Dan Savage has probably slept with
                              more women than that.
                              \_ Well he just says "don't marry her." Maybe
                                 this woman is just an honest one and the
                                 others just pretend to like it because they
                                 want to keep their man. Except the minority
                                 who actually do like it, but who motd teaches
                                 teaches us are nuts. All hail motd.
                                 us are nuts. All hail motd.
                        \_ Oh come on, you're not a mathematician, but
                           I'll accept your advice that 2+2=4
                           \_ What if I say that 2+2=3? Accept that?
           \_ I know someone who has cancer, therefore everyone has cancer. QED
              \_ I don't know anyone with cancer. Therefore cancer is a
                 myth created by the pharmaceutical companies. QED
        \_ Unless someone is willing to sign his or her(hah!) name as actually
           believing the 'most women don't enjoy sex' meme, it's a bullshit
           motd troll. -dans
           \_ check out the big brain on dan!
2007/9/20-22 [Uncategorized] UID:48125 Activity:nil
9/20    Cool.  Now $1 CAN = $1 USD.
        \_ The Fed rules.  I'm hoping for 1 peso = 1 dollar.
           \_ ^The Fed^The Bush Administration
2007/9/20-22 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:48126 Activity:nil
9/20    Independent journalist in Anbar, interesting
        Part 1: http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/001514.html
        Part 2: http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/001517.html
        \_ Anyone who appears on the Wall Street Journal opinion page,
           Front Page Mag AND the National Review I automatically
           dismiss as a fucking idiot.
           \_ I was hoping this was Michael J Totten porn but its
              not: http://suicidegirls.com/interviews/Bushs+War
        \_ Who is this person and why do we care?
        \_ I tend to discount anyone who believes that Zaquarwi
           wasn't a US MILITARY FAKE MEDIA construct.  he was just
           one dude, he did not control all terror in Iraq.
2007/9/20-22 [Reference/RealEstate, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:48127 Activity:nil
9/20    Bush cites 'unsettling times' in housing market. Afterwards, he
        urges everyone to get more education.           -The Onion
2007/9/20-22 [Computer/HW/Laptop, Computer/HW/Display] UID:48128 Activity:nil
9/20    For a HDTV >= 36", can someone quickly summarize the pros and cons
        of LCD vs Plasma please?  Thank you.
        \_ how much >= 36"?  From my research LCD seems the way to go until
           you get bigger than my wallet or apartment can handle.
           \_ I was looking at a 42".  Browsing through the store, I felt
              46" would've been too big for my apartment. -op
        \_ plasma:  higher heat, less motion blur, less pixelation, quicker
           to lose brightness (I belieive) - I went with LCD
           \_ *less* motion blur on plasma?  I thought it had more, making
              it less suitable for games, which was one reason why I asked.
              Turns out I misread the specs and the TV I was looking at is
              actually LCD.  I decided to get it since it is through a
              special hookup at a great price, but might as well keep the
              thread in case anyone else is interested. -op
              \_ Yeah, I think LCDs have much better response time these
                 days.  LCD technology has done some amazing things recently.
2007/9/20-22 [Uncategorized] UID:48129 Activity:nil
9/20    bring back x11 oj
2007/9/20-22 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus] UID:48130 Activity:kinda low
9/20    Is there a way in Twiki to have children inherit settings from a
        parent? I know there is a WebTopicEditTemplate which you can use
        for an entire Web, but what I want is to be able to have all of
        the children under a given topic automatically be populated with
        a template of settings when created. Is there a way to do that?
        Right now I copy and paste my settings each time and not only does
        that take time but there's a chance I forget to do it or else make
        an error.
        \_ Setting of arbitrary parent *topic*?  I don't know of any feature
           by default.  For my purpose, I wrote a plugin that made twiki
           use a custom EditTemplate depending on the suffix of a topic
           name.  I imagine similar concept can be used to check the the
           parent variable.  Search twiki site first to see if such plugins
           already exist.
           \_ Well, I just want the concept of a child topic inheriting a
              template from its parent topic.
              \_ But how do you specify *which* settings it inherit?  When
                 you first create a topic, twiki loads the default topic
                 template and loads it in the edit box.  Settings are
                 interpreted on the fly by running through the topic text
                 file twice.  The settings are just part of normal text
                 as far as it's considered.  You need a way to specify which
                 setting to inherit by perhaps wrapping it around a
                 TWikiVariable.  And given that you can change the parent
                 of a topic by changing its metadata, interpreting it on the
                 fly is probably the best way to handle it given current
                 twiki behavior.
                 \_ It should inherit all of them. Every Set = from the
                    parent gets set in the child at creation time. If the
                    parent changes later then too bad.
                    \_ Keep in mind that TWiki didn't even have a concept
                       of parent/child until few years ago.  At least for
                       the current implementation of new topic template
                       reading, it looked to me like you'd have to actually
                       overwrite that function within twiki's edit script
                       itself and can't be extended with just plugins.  That
                       is, grabbing the variable defines from parent and
                       putting it in place during creation.  What I was
                       suggesting where the settings are read on-the-fly
                       at each access *can* be done via plug-in.  Choosing
                       the right wiki is a difficult task, partly because
                       the ideals of each wiki devel teams are different.
                       Wikis were originally meant to be unrestricted, which
                       is an ideal that TWiki developers still try to hold
                       to.  That is one of the reason why there are commercial
                       wiki implementations popping up designed from groun-up
                       to have access restrictions.  My main reason for
                       choosing TWiki?  It's one of the few that supports
                       versioning of attachments, and rest of my group is
                       still very shy of php, which ruled out MediaWiki.
                       (And I believe MediaWiki has even less access control.)
2007/9/20-22 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:48131 Activity:kinda low
9/20    I have a DVD of my friend doing some Karate I'd like to copy for him.
        How can I copy a DVD so I can play it in a regular DVD player?
        Preferably using Linux, but I can use windows if necessary.
        \_ what format is the video file on the original DVD?
           \_ Err.. I guess I don't know.  It plays on a regular DVD player.
           \_ If it's a non-copy protected dvd, you should be able to use any
              dvd ripper and then just burn 'em back, maintaining the
              structure.  linux should have tools readily available for this.
              Does anyone know if a non-CSS protected video DVD files can
              just be copied like normal files or even just do the copy by
              using dd?  I've never tried and am curious.
              \_ Well, a simple iso copy worked for me.  I don't know if it
                 would work if there was copy protection. -op
                 \_ I don't know how CSS exactly works, but I doubt you can
                    just do a dd of CSS protected files.  I believe you can't
                    even copy the the protected files by using just a file
                    manager.  That aside, thank you for testing this.  I
                    recently had to extract and remix the tracks from two
                    different dvds created by a mini-dvd camcorder, and at
                    least for the future, I can probably shave off 10-15
                    minutes.
2007/9/20-22 [Finance/Investment] UID:48132 Activity:kinda low
9/20    So, with the dollar tanking where should I put my money to weather
        the comming storm?
        \_ 'In the longer term, the U.S. dollar will have to rebound at some
            point, said Dustin Reid, senior foreign exchange strategist at ABN
            AMRO in Chicago. "It can't continue into oblivion forever."'
            -- http://csua.org/u/jk0 (Reuters)
        \_ You are too late. Dollar has already tanked. Buy low, sell high.
         \_ Jim Cramer be damned, I suspect that the tankage has farther to
            go, and that it's not too late.  So, if you knew the dollar was
            going to continue to tank, what (besides foreign currencies
            directly) would you invest in?
            \_ Stocks and mutual funds of foreign companies whose currency
               will do well against the dollar. Truthfully, though, these
               have outperformed and I think you are too late. But if you
               think you are not late to the party that everyone else has
               been at for years then, yeah.
        \_ Jim Cramer says you are not too late.  the stock market is going to
           14,500 by end of year.  buy-buy-buy!
        \_ obWhyDoYouHateAmerica?
        \_ I put my money into both American and foreign investments.  Why
           place your bets for/against a single currency?  You wouldn't put
           all your money into a single stock.
           \_ while i dont disagree with you, the analogy of single currency
              and single stock misses something slightly when the single
              currency is the dollar and you are long in the dollar.
        \_ Megacap companies that make most of their profits overseas
           are probably a good bet.
2007/9/20-22 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:48133 Activity:low
9/20    Someone deleted my CRV question. Where does the money collected
        by the CRV end up? I assume (perhaps incorrectly) that some of it
        is used to pay refunds, but what happens to the rest? I STFW already.
        \_ The first two hits on google for "california CRV money" came up
           with very informative articles on this subject:
           http://www.sdreader.com/php/ma_show.php?id=384
           http://www.sdreader.com/php/ma_show.php?id=279
           about the 6th hit is
           http://www.somelifeblog.com/2007/01/californias-redemption-value-increase.html
           which goes into great detail on this.
           The latter ones two seemed really relevant to your question.  At
           this point all I can say is LRN2STFW.  -ERic
           \_ I used Yahoo! and not Google. BTW, thanks.
             \_ Its is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.
                \_ Not blaming the tool. Just saying #1 and #2 hits on
                   Yahoo! were not informative. In fact, most were not.
2007/9/20-24 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Recreation/Media] UID:48134 Activity:nil
9/20    Dan Rather pulls back the curtain on the whole "liberal media" thing:
        http://www.csua.org/u/jk6
        "Viacom, CBS and some of the senior management sacrificed supporting
         independent journalism for their corporate financial interests,"
         he added.
        \_ Sorry Dan, those memos are obvious fakes, get over it.
        \_ Why would I trust Dan Rather? He's obviously part of the
           corporate media with an agenda to slander the liberal executives
           at Viacom and CBS.
           \_ This has nothing to do with liberal or corporate or anything
              agendas.  It is Dan "I Got Busted Being A Dumbshit" Rather
              trying some last ditch pathetic effort to recover his self-
              stained reputation before he keels over and dies a laughing-
              stock.
2007/9/20-24 [Science/Battery, Reference/Religion] UID:48135 Activity:kinda low
9/20    explain this whole Jena 6 thing for me.  ok tnx.
        \_ Black student asks for permission from principal to sit under so-
           called "White Tree," principal says sit where you like; next day,
           there are three nooses hanging from tree. Tensions rise, words are
           said, there's a fight, one of the (white) noose-hangers gets
           knocked out (but recovers in time to go to a school function that
           evening); prosecutor decides to prosecute (black) defendants for
           "Attempted Murder."
           \_ My understanding is the white kid who got beat up was not one
              of the noose-hangers but the whole thing has been so spun into
              the sadly typical OJ-like circus that who can tell?
           \_ and prosecutor decides not to prosecute the noose-hangers
              for a hate crime.
              \_ Actually, they were expelled, but then appealed.  Yes, there
                 is a difference between putting up some provocative rope and
                 beating the crap out of someone.
                 \_ Welcome to provocative speech, the kind of 1st Amendment
                    speech that does not protect you from assault and battery,
                    esp. when you're throwing punches as well.
                    \_ Does not compute.
                       \_ http://csua.org/u/jkl (ExpertLaw on A&B, mutual)
           \_ At first, I thought this was a troll about the porn star. My
              coworker briefed me about it this morning. -!op
              \- When i first saw "Jena protest" and "Jena 6" in print,
                 I thought it was a reference to something going on in
                 Germany. Jena is a famous old town prominent in German
                 cultural/intellectual/religious history, and also famous
                 for a Napoleanonic battle [hence the bridge in Paris from
                 the Eiffel Tower to the Trocadero is the "Jena Bridge"].
                 I was kinda surprised when I first heard it pronounced
                 "Gee-na". Did this story get natl coverage when the actual
                 events occured last yr? Or only after the trial. I was kinda
                 amazed to hear about the "White Tree of Jena".
                 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jena#Famous_citizens
        \_ http://www.csua.org/u/jkc
           Thank god they aren't locals, though...
2007/9/20-24 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:48136 Activity:moderate
9/20    why does Bush always say 'Democrat party'.  weirdo.
        \_ to denigrate his opponents, of course.  -tom
        \_ It is a code word to the wing-nut Right to let them know he is
        \_ It is a code work to the wing-nut Right to let them know he is
           one of them.
        \_ He's not the first to do it. I think Dem critics have gotten tired
           of "Democratic" party sounds like they're democratic.
           \_ Parse error at 'party'.
           \_ No, it's cause Democrat Party sounds harsh and curse like.
              Lucky for me it's a great litmus test.  If someone says
              "Democrat Party" you know they are a partisan hack and it's not
              worth reading/listening any further.
              \_ I find it easy to simply use anyone who claims such a "litmus
                 test" as a litmus test and ignore them.
                 \_ This is why we can't have nice things.
              \_ It sounds like "bureaucrat", "autocrat", and "rat".
        \_ http://mediamatters.org/items/200608160005
           The Republicans have used it as an insult since McCarthy.
        \_ I've only seen this come up on the motd and some very far left
           web sites.  It never even occured to me there was a difference or
           it mattered.  I certainly don't see the dramatic insult.  Can
           someone please explain?
           \_ I don't think it 'matters' in any sense that anyone can
              possibly demonstrate.  What I find interesting is how much
              time people waste on shit like this in political discussions,
              rather than things actually relevant to our lives. -- ilyas
           \_ You think that The New Yorker is very far left?
              \_ Where did I say I read The New Yorker?  Anyway, I still
                 don't see the dramatic insult.  Or any insult.  I wouldn't
                 blink if someone said "Republic Party".  What's the BFD?
2007/9/20-23 [Uncategorized] UID:48137 Activity:nil
9/20    wall works fine.
2007/9/20-24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:48138 Activity:nil
9/20    is wall being officially squashed?  Fingering lwall gets me
        nowhere.  Also /csua/bin/WHO: Permission denied.
        :(
        \_ can you finger any account?
           \_ i can finger it, it just has no log.
2007/9/20 [Computer/SW/Apps/Media, Science/GlobalWarming, Computer/SW/P2P] UID:48139 Activity:nil
9/20    http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3812960/MediaDefender.Source.TrapperKeeper-MDD | ^
          tools mediadefender uses to browse p2p | Update: A list of leaked
          utilities is now available: | AresDataCollector, AresLauncher,
          AresProtector, AresSupernode, AresUDPDataCollector, AutoUpdater,
          AutoUpdaterSource, BTClient, BTDataCollector, BTDecoyClient,
          BTInflationDest, BTInterdictor, BTIPGatherer, BTPoster, BTRemover,
          BTScraper, BTScraperDLL, BTSearcher, BTSeedInflator,
          BTTorrentGenerator, BTTorrentSource, BTTracker, BTTrackerChecker,
          CVS, DCMaster, DCScanner, DCSupply, DistributedKazaaCollector,
          DllLoader, ED2KSupplyProcessor, ... | ... EdonkeyIpBanner,
          FastTrackGift, FastTrackGiftDecoyer, GnutellaDecoyer,
          GnutellaFileDownloader, GnutellaProtector, GnutellaSupply,
          KademliaProtector, KazaaDBManager, KazaaLauncher,
          KazaaSupplyProcessor, KazaaSupplyTaker, KazaaSwarmerDest,
          KazaaSwarmerDistributedSource, KazaaSwarmerDownloader,
          KazaaSwarmerSource, MediaMaker, MediaSwarmerDest, MediaSwarmerSource,
          MetaMachine, MetaMachineHashSetCollector, MetaMachineSpoofer, ... |
          ... MI-GnutellaSupply, MovieMaker, NameServer, NetworkMonitor,
          OverNetLauncher, OvernetProtector, OvernetSpoofer, P2PFileIndexer,
          PioletDC, PioletPoisoner, PioletSpoofer, SamplePlugIn,
          SLSKSpooferDLL, SoulSeekClient, StatusDest, StatusSource,
          SupernodeCollector, SupernodeController, SupernodeDistributer,
          SupplyProcessor, TKCom, TKFileTransfer, TKLauncher, TKProjectManager,
          TKSyncher, UsenetPoster, UsenetSearcher, ... | ...
          WatchDogControllerDestination, WatchDogControllerSource, WinMxDC,
          WinMxLauncher, WinMxProtector, wma generator
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