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2007/9/14 [Uncategorized] UID:48056 Activity:nil |
9/13 http://www.landsburg.com/norm.pdf A paper on efficiency vs justice, and inevitability of disagreement. -- ilyas |
2007/9/14 [Uncategorized] UID:48057 Activity:nil |
9/13 34HH! goddamn. \_ Maybe you should re-evaluate your extremist views, dans. The June 1995 issue of WIRED magazine quoted a member of the Electronic Frontier Foundation as saying that EPIC "made everybody else at the table look moderate. It's the old good-cop-bad-cop routine." \_ In 1995 the EFF was radical. They realized there was a damn good chance important rights were going to be stomped on and acted quickly to fight that. That was 12+ years ago, when almost noone had any concept of digital privacy and rights. Then there was this whole thing called the .com revolution and now, and while the EFF may not be mainstream it is far from extremist. \_ Anyone who does not support the Patriot Act is an extremist. EFF does not support the Patriot Act. Therefore EFF is extremist. Q.E.D. \_ Nice strawman. |
2007/9/14 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:48058 Activity:nil |
9/14 Hey, trust cue person, how do you tell the difference between these and Bush's constant and inane use of catchphrases and sloganeering? Are there any differences? |
2007/9/14 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Reference/Military] UID:48059 Activity:nil |
9/12 CLEANSE. \_ Sure, you can counteract the effects if you actually have the time and discipline to do so, but how many have that? Are you familiar with the studies correlating miles driven with heart disease and obesity? http://www.rand.org/news/press.04/09.27.html \_ Where do you live? In some counties you can get a CCW without too much trouble. \_ What is CCW? \_ Carry Concealed Weapon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_carry |
2007/9/14 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:48060 Activity:nil |
9/14 Does America Want a Clinton Monarchy? By Steven Stark http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/09/will_voters_embrace_a_clinton.html |
2007/9/14 [Uncategorized] UID:48061 Activity:nil |
9/12 CLEANSE. __,-~~/~~~~~~`---. _/_,---( , ) / < / ) \ | ( / :: \ / : \ | \/ ::::::: :: \ :::) :: / (_(::::\::( ::::>::::::\) \\_(:_:<:::>_>'::::/ // ~~`-i########|--~~ :/OVIVBV|v\: ,Z/V7V|HIH\\.. /V|ViI:i\ I;|.|.| <|i::|i|`. - ------===;;;'====------------------===;;;===----- - - ` ^'"`-' " /V|ViI:i\ :/OVIVBV|v\: __ __ ,Z/V7V|HIH\\.. _ _ __/~\___/ \_/ \XX/~~\##/~~\\\_/ \/ \__/~~\_/\_ __,,,----(::/::\:/:\:==@@@@@############@@@@@===/;;\;;);;);;)-----..____ |
2007/9/14 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:48062 Activity:high 66%like:48063 |
9/14 How does she do this? (NSFW) Yoga? http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6497/screenshotpm1.png \_ She reminds me of the Fat Man bomb that was dropped on Nagasaki. Incidentally, see the ASCII art below. "Dean, I'm getting too big," sobbed Liz, "My breasts are gonna pop out of my shirt soon." "I know I know...we are almost there." reassured Dean. The elevator stopped and the pair got out, Liz continuing to hold onto Dean's back like a little babe. They walked down to her room and Liz handed her key to Dean. He quickly opened the door and they both dove into the room. Slamming and locking it behind them, Dean turned to look at Liz. Her breasts were stretching the shirt to it's utmost limits now, the fabric noticeably becoming more and more thin. Liz stood there watching her chest inflate, not knowing what to do about it. She grabbed herself again and tried to push in, but her tits were too sensitive to the touch now. Every time she touched herself, she nearly came in her shorts. Liz's shirt was so tight that Dean could she the imprint around her front of the too small bra all around the circumference of her bust. Liz just stood there with her hands near her chest, wanting to hold them in, but knowing if she did it would drive her crazy. "Dean...call the store!" Liz gasped. Dean stood motionless as he noticed the second button beginning toquiver a bit. Liz looked down just in time to see it pop off too,careening around the room. Her breasts spilled out of her shirt a bit more now, and modesty took over. She reached around and tried to block Dean's view, but too much flesh was there, and it was still growing. "Dean!" shouted Liz and Dean snapped out of his mammary trance and grabbed the phone book. Liz took in short breaths now, trying to expand her chest anymore then it already was. Soon, Dean found the number and dialed the place up. "I feel it....I'm gonna pop another one." gasped Liz and she shot her hand to her front to try and hold her shirt together, but she was too late. __,-~~/~~~~~~`---. _/_,---( , ) / < / ) \ | ( / :: \ / : \ | \/ ::::::: :: \ :::) :: / (_(::::\::( ::::>::::::\) \\_(:_:<:::>_>'::::/ // ~~`-i########|--~~ :/OVIVBV|v\: ,Z/V7V|HIH\\.. /V|ViI:i\ I;|.|.| <|i::|i|`. - ------===;;;'====------------------===;;;===----- - - ` ^'"`-' " /V|ViI:i\ :/OVIVBV|v\: __ __ ,Z/V7V|HIH\\.. _ _ __/~\___/ \_/ \XX/~~\##/~~\\\_/ \/ \__/~~\_/\_ __,,,----(::/::\:/:\:==@@@@@############@@@@@===/;;\;;);;);;)-----..____ 9/14 Motd nuked, for great justice. It was the only way to be sure. |
2007/9/14 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:48063 Activity:nil 66%like:48062 |
9/14 How does she do this? (NSFW) http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6497/screenshotpm1.png Yoga? \_ She reminds me of the Fat Man bomb that was dropped on Nagasaki. Incidentally, see the ASCII art below. __,-~~/~~~~~~`---. _/_,---( , ) / < / ) \ | ( / :: \ / : \ | \/ ::::::: :: \ :::) :: / (_(::::\::( ::::>::::::\) \\_(:_:<:::>_>'::::/ // ~~`-i########|--~~ :/OVIVBV|v\: ,Z/V7V|HIH\\.. /V|ViI:i\ I;|.|.| <|i::|i|`. - ------===;;;'====------------------===;;;===----- - - ` ^'"`-' " /V|ViI:i\ :/OVIVBV|v\: __ __ ,Z/V7V|HIH\\.. _ _ __/~\___/ \_/ \XX/~~\##/~~\\\_/ \/ \__/~~\_/\_ __,,,----(::/::\:/:\:==@@@@@############@@@@@===/;;\;;);;);;)-----..____ 9/14 Motd nuked, for great justice. It was the only way to be sure. |
2007/9/14 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:48064 Activity:nil |
9/14 Argentina museum displays Incan mummy - Yahoo! News: http://www.csua.org/u/jiw This mummy is creepy. When Dean started to explain that he needed to make sure that his friend understood everything that he needed, Liz gave up and whispered, "I'm having a little trouble". Dean looked at her quizzically, and then thought that she needed to go to the bathroom and told her to hold it. She then gave up on trying to hide her problem and stood up a bit straighter and gave Dean a quick look at her "growing concerns." Instantly Dean told his friend good-bye and started walking swiftly with Liz under his arm, she walking a little hunched over to try and conceal her chest. Dean whispered, "What are you doing? You trying to get me all excited with those fake.. "They're not fake, Dean...something is happening to me...my breasts are growing..I can actually feel them inflating. What's going on? Wait.. What was in those pills I took?" Dean explained the whole story to her as they tried to make it quickly across the quad. Liz punched him in the arm when he told her about the pills, telling him he should have warned her. Dean tried to plead his case, but it didn't matter now. Liz's chest was near a D-cup now, and she noticed that they seemed to be expanding faster as time passed. She was almost walking with her back hunched at a 45 degree angle now so that she didn't show any curves, looking rather silly. Dean dove his hand into his pocket and retrieved the vial again. He studied it, trying to find anything on it that might help, and noticed some writing on the bottom of the cork. It read: Ego Builders: Take one each night and triple your doubt. Find happiness and all will be as it should. Dean thought carefully and then realized what was happening: Liz must have doubted that her chest attracted men and they were now tripling in size, but she had taken 30 pills, so that meant... "Oh my god!" both Dean and Liz said as they figured out the meaning. Liz started breathing heavy, which wasn't helping conceal her chest. Dean could do nothing but continue walking faster towards Liz's place. |
2007/9/14 [Recreation/Dating, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:48065 Activity:nil |
9/14 Motd nuked, for great justice. It was the only way to be sure. But by the time they reached the door, they had blown up too much and were too wide to fit through the door frame. Dean tried pressing themtogether, his fingers almost disappearing into the inflating flesh, but all this did was make Liz cum in her shorts. She gasped as the sensation passed momentarily, but she weakened enough to beg Dean to do it again.Dean, more centered on his task, stepped back and tried to come up with asolution, and couldn't. He ushered her back to the middle of the small room and shut the door before anyone noticed. Every step Liz took made her breasts sway and the movement of the air on her enormous nipples started her up again. Giving in to the intense waves of passion that were raping her system, she grabbed her incredible tits and began massaging them all over, sending waves of electricity through them and making her privates literally oozefrom her hot juices. Dean grabbed the phone and told the woman that she was stuck in her room and that they couldn't get out. The woman thought for a second, then told Dean that for the pill to wear off, the person had to experience the sheer joy, joy that only came from a cataclysmic orgasm. She then thought that maybe if he tried to make her have one, her breasts would revert back to normal. She told him that the growth was happening underneath only one layer of her skin and that they would pop painlessly once it happen, letting her be normal again. |
2007/9/14-18 [Politics/Domestic] UID:48066 Activity:low |
9/14 10:00pm ABC 60min 2007 Whose Body Is It Anyway?! Health Care in America A John Stossel report on health care weighs the pros and cons of the U.S. system and others around the world, and looks at U.S. innovations. Included: a segment on health care in Cuba, featuring filmmaker Michael Moore, Miami-based Cuban activist Jose Carro and George Utset, who runs an anti-Castro Web site. Also: Harvard Business School professor Regina Herzlinger; and Canadian physician David Gratzer, author of .The Cure: How Capitalism Can Save American Health Care.. \_ John Stossel's reporting is almost all of the 'I am a complete corporate tool' variety, but maybe I'll watch, thanks. \_ Is there an equivalent term for 'I am a complete big government tool?' |
2007/9/14-18 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Foreign/Asia/India] UID:48067 Activity:low |
9/14 Argentina museum displays Incan mummy - Yahoo! News: http://www.csua.org/u/jiw This mummy is creepy. \_ All mummies are creepy. \_ This one is more creepy than the Egyptian ones. She looks alive. \_ I find the dried husk look more creepy. |
2007/9/14-15 [Uncategorized] UID:48068 Activity:kinda low |
9/14 As her ______ sag, so does her career (Demi Moore): http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20763645 \_ Did Demi Moore ever really have a career? She's done what? The ghost movie thing with whoopie goldberg and what else anyone can remember? \_ Blame It On Rio. St. Elmo's Fire. |
2007/9/14-18 [Transportation/Airplane] UID:48069 Activity:low |
9/14 Rule 240 in airline: if an airline couldn't get you to your destination on time, it was required to put you on a competitor's flight if it would get you there faster than your original airline's next flight. Airlines were even required to put you in first class if that's all that was available. But then, deregulation happened and no one wanted to follow Rule 240. It's just not profitable. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20696593 \_ Deregulation: proving Milton Friedman wrong for years. \_ Corporate profit in 21st century: proving commoners will always be bitter. -GWB \_ On the other hand, most people can now afford to fly frequently. \_ Which is bad because I'm sick and tired of being crammed with dumbasses who smell or talk loudly on the cell phone. \_ I'm willing to tolerate it if my airfare is 50% less. \_ If you're rich enough to afford the old-style pricing, you're rich enough to get into business or first class, you prole. \_ With the introduction of "Economy Plus," expect that number to drop. |
2007/9/14-22 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:48070 Activity:low |
9/14 Another radical leftist on Bush's economic policies: http://www.csua.org/u/jj5 "Little value was placed on rigorous economic policy debate or the weighing of long-term consequences," Greenspan writes of the Bush administration. Greenspan said he unsuccessfully urged the White House to veto "out-of-control" spending bills while the Republicans controlled Congress. Republicans "deserved" to lose control of Congress in last year's election because they "swapped principle for power," he said. \_ Who are you baiting? I don't recall anyone here being an ardent proponent of high spending. \_ There sure are (were?) a lot of pro-war pro-spending folks posting a few years ago. Nice if they all had a change of heart. \_ You're confusing pro-war with pro-spending. I was appalled when Bush's first action in 2001 was to do an across the board increase to every federal budget. I'm still anti-tax, anti-spending. That has no relation to my opinions on the war which is a foreign policy decision, not an economic or political one (for me). \_ You think the war is free? \_ Don't strawman, of course it isn't. It also isn't a "spending" decision as I explained. \_ It's not a spending decision, it's just a decision which requires spending! As much spending as all our other decisions combined! Right! \_ Snarky was cute in HS. If you have something worth saying I'll gladly discuss it further with you but if all you've got is snarky one liners in response to my serious explanations then don't bother. Snarky is no longer a successful debate tactic at this stage of life. \_ You don't have a serious point. "war is a policy decision, not a spending one" is tautological and meaningless. Whether to embargo Cuba is a policy decision; whether to go or war or not is a spending decision. \_ Well, going to war without cutting anything else is certainly an interesting spending decision... \_ Oh they cut things. Taxes for one. \_ Well, duh... CUTTING TAXES INCREASES REVENUES DIDN'TCHAKNOW \_ No, it is not a "strawman" to point out that starting wars costs money. It is kind of willfully blind to pretend that it does not. pretend that it does not. Would you support starting a war that had a moderate foreign policy gain if it cost $10T? $100T? Of course cost considers into the decision. |
2007/9/14-18 [Uncategorized] UID:48071 Activity:kinda low |
9/14 psb was pretty hot a few years ago http://video.tinypic.com/fullsize_video.php?v=2ez5qp0&width=640&height=530 \_ Which one is she? \_ Psb is dark, handsome, square faced, and is very GQ. In short, psb is classy, unlike these 2 skanks. \_ and ambiguously gay. \_ http://tinyurl.com/2ne9ew \_ The requested URL /aAfkjfp01fo1i-32462/loc733/28512_ \ 224322898_123_733lo.jpg was not found on this server. \_ Is that a Mont Blanc pen? http://home.lbl.gov/~psb/PSB_MISC/PSB-IMF.jpg \_ The busty one is hot. But what do these two "Do I Look Like a Slut?" chicks have to do with psb? \_ Does this vid go anywhere? I mean, what's the point? Thank god I fast-forwarded this, or I'd have to kick your ass for wasting my five minutes. \_ Here's the video you should have pointed to: http://www.avclub.com/content/videocracy/2009 |
2007/9/14-18 [Industry/Jobs] UID:48072 Activity:low |
9/14 Hey Tom or whomightknow, how much does something like this: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/sad/422348976.html pay ? It says "commensurate w/ experience" but is cal really going to pay 6 figures for this? \_ It's an odd listing. It probably means they'll hire it as PA III or PA IV depending on who they get in the pool. -tom \_ They didn't really say they would pay market rates. \_ Given they want experience as team lead and project management, it will probably go as a pa3/4 as tom said but it is chock full of low end crap like writing html and configuring apache. It will very likely pay over 100k to the right person but not much more. If the job itself sounds interesting to you, then go for it and see what happens. At worst you'll waste some interview time and won't take the job. Don't apply for UC jobs for the money, there isn't any. -!tom but knows a bit about cal, also \_ While I had not heard of this particular job opening, I doubt it'll pay six figures. Also, this particular position will suck out souls of lesser individuals. |
2007/9/14-22 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:48073 Activity:moderate |
9/14 So, exactly what did the surge accomplish again? http://www.economist.com/opinion/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=9804115 My feeling is that Republican just want to drag this until 2009 and blame Democrats for "loosing the war." \_ It accomplished exactly what it was intended to accomplish: it lined the pockets of the defence contractors, all who donate to the GOP. \_ Are you kidding? Most large companies donate to both parties. It only makes sense to do so. \_ Do you really think that defense contractos donate the same amount to both parties? How about oil companies? \_ Dunno if they donate the same amount or not, but I'm quite sure they donate to both parties. \_ Easy enough to look up: http://www.csua.org/u/jk9 Big Oil: 3:1 Republican, 4:1 recently http://www.csua.org/u/jka Defence: 60:40 GOP, 2:1 lately The latter actually surprised me a bit, I thought that it would be more one sided. \_ It used to be that the timeline for ending a war was "when we've won". Now it seems like the timeline is "we haven't won and this is really frustrating so let's just call it a day and go home and pretend it never happened". The tactics, strategies, equipment, man power levels, focus, and diplomatic efforts may all be wrong and require a complete change of plan but retreating because we're and re Elsewhere in the programme, we meet glamour model Lucy Pinder, whose breasts hav\ e made her famous. With contracts to the Daily Star and Nuts magazine, Lucy has\ made a name for herself using her body quire a complete change of plan s got a b\ rain as well as a pair of The programme follows Lucy on a shoot for Nuts and he\ ars what life is like when you have some of the most famous breasts in the nation. Also on Wednesday, model Jo talks about how her attitude towards her breasts cha\ nged dramatically after she had her baby, and Gemma explains what life is like w\ hen you have to spend up 800 a year on hiding an embarrassing nipple problem. to boobs!Shebut retreating because we're and but retreating because we're "bored of this war and it's no fun!" is detrimental to our long term standing in the world and our ability in the future for generations to apply non-military pressure to accomplish our national goals. No one follows a loser or a quitter. The war has become so political that no one in DC seems to care about the consequences anymore. It has become a faxed memo talking points political item. How sad for all of us. \_ The war was a mistake. If you make a mistake, the thing to do is stop making it, not stubbornly keep doing it because you are worried about pride and saving face. This whole thing has already damaged our standing in the world. Talk about consequences? What is your definition of "winning"? \_ "The thing to do is stop making it": far too trivial an answer. The answer is to finish what you started, not get bored and go because it is annoying. We'll never win by my definition. Our leaders (in both parties) are too gutless to do what needs to be done. I read an interview with Powell a few days ago where he said we should have shot a bunch of looters on day one as a lesson to the rest. I'm with Powell. \_ You still haven't answered the question as to what it would mean for us to win. \_ Win = defeat your enemies. In this case that would mean closing the borders with Syria and Iraq to cut off support and crushing groups such as the 'mahdi army'. Once your enemies are defeated you can talk about diplomatic solutions among the rational people who remain. While these groups exist and still think they can get more from fighting instead of talking there can be no diplomatic solution to anything. War is about breaking the will of your enemy to continue fighting, which we haven't even *tried* to do yet. That might get a bunch of folks into a tizzy and we can't have folks in a tizzy, can we? \_ Fighting it the way you want to fight it would require many more men that the military has. I don't think there is any way you are going to sell a draft, especially at this point. And even if you could, I don't think it would work, since it basically requires breaking the Iraqi will to have an indepedent government. It didn't work in Vietnam, why would it work here? Iraq has a long history of defeating colonial powers, you know. \_ We're not colonizing, we're SETTING IT FREE!!! Give me freedom or give me death! -Neocon \_ How about choking to death on some Freedom Fries? \_ You CAN'T finish it. That's the fucking point. \_ In your opinion. Fighting it like we have, you are correct since we haven't been fighting, which includes the surge in recent months. \_ Whether Iraq should have been invaded or not is neither here nor there. What people need to focus on is the fact that we *are* there. Now what? Packing up and going home is not a good solution, so what are the other options? \_ The only other option I can think of is to arm some Saddam Hussein like strong man and let him kill as many Kurds and Shi'ites as he needs to keep the country together. Too bad we killed SH, eh? \_ Then it is a good thing you're not making any decisions. \_ Yes, far better to listen to you and blow $1T,\ 3k lost lives, 30k maimed and our credibility \_ Yes, far better to listen to you and blow $1T, 3k lost lives, 30k maimed and our credibility on a pointless invasion. I notice you haven't been able to come up with any withdrawal strategy. It is either the one I came up with or an out and out civil war, which will be worse, and just end up with the same kind of strongman in the end anyway. Oh, and I warned that the invasion of Iraq would most likely result in a civil war there *before* the invasion. So yes, it is a "good thing" that I am not making any decisions. \_ Stop focusing on the past. What's done is done. Who cares about what you warned against? So your withdrawal options are what again? And what options are there other than withdrawal, if any? Dems like to say "I told you so". Fair enough. Now they want to lead the country, so what's the plan? Most of what I hear is BS that panders to the "I told you so"'s in hopes of getting elected. I'd like to hear some real plans. So far my favorite is the Biden-Gelb plan, which basically calls for splitting Iraq up and guaranteeing the Sunnis a share of oil profits. I think the people who want our troops out of Iraq now are thinking with their hearts and not their minds. \_ Actually, I think we should do the same thing I suggested two years ago and it starts with impeaching Bush and handing him over to an International War Crimes Tribunal. But I am sure you are not interested in hearing it again, so I won't bother. Any "solution" that doesn't start out with hat in hand to the Iranians, Turks, Syrians and Saudis is just a big waste of time. You stilll are dreaming of waste of time. You still are dreaming of victory, when what you should be doing is trying to cut your losses. Okay, I just looked up the Biden-Gelb plan and it at least recognizes the idea that the US needs to engage Iraqi neighbors to have a hope of a chance of success. But that chance that Bush is going to effectively engage Iran is nill. Maybe the next President will, though. read the Biden-Gelb plan and I think it focuses on the important points, which are recognizing the inevitable need to draw in and get the support from Iraq's neighbors. I still think you are stuck in fantasyland though. nil. Maybe the next President will, though. \_ Vote for Biden. People should stop wasting their time with Hillary and Obama. They are probably the 3rd and 4th best candidates the Dems have but they have NAME RECOGNITION. The Dems suck and I have low expectations for the next President. \_ Joe "never met a credit card company I wouldn't fellate" Biden? Seriously, Biden can't get the base. Without primary voters, you can't get the nom. \_ I understand that, but I still think he is the best man for the job. \_ I like Biden quite a bit, mostly just from watching him at the debates, but I don't think he has a chance. But my candidate (Edwards) doesn't have much of a chance either. \_ Edwards leads the pack in Iowa. Or, had for a while... It's neck and neck, apparently. \_ I don't think he has a chance either and that's too bad. Why is everyone all over Hillary? |
2007/9/14-22 [Politics/Domestic/Gay] UID:48074 Activity:nil |
9/14 Gay or straight? Improve your Gaydar by watching his walk: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20762841 \_ I think you are gay for making me look at videos of a guy's ass. |
2007/9/14-15 [Uncategorized] UID:48075 Activity:nil |
9/14 Thanks for deleting a thread I was participating in, you fuck! \_ You're welcome! -deleter |
2007/9/14-18 [Uncategorized] UID:48076 Activity:nil |
9/14 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20773657/site/newsweek ... as an Internet discussion grows longer (and more heated), it becomes more and more likely that someone or something will be compared to Hitler. \_ Uh, why did you quote that and not the blood and treasure thing which was the point of the article? \_ I find it amusing that Godwin's law has now been referenced in a mass-consumption newsweekly magazine. -dans |
2007/9/14-22 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:48077 Activity:nil |
9/14 Paging AGONZALES : http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-ucilaw13sep13,0,5893599.story [considering what LSUMMERS was booted for, as BDELONG says "Why does MDRAKE still have a job?" \_ Right Wing Political Correctness run amok. \_ Political Correctness run amok. \- speaking of LSUMMERS: http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2007/09/unclear-on-the-.html \- speaking of LSUMMERS and UC: http://tinyurl.com/2kvadz |
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