Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2007:September:13 Thursday <Wednesday, Friday>
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2007/9/13-14 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:48044 Activity:nil
9/12    This guy seems to have a good gig going. Hack on some BSD stuff
        with no deadlines, and use project donations money to travel the world.
        http://zeus.theos.com/deraadt
        I guess he's kinda like that guy with the dancing videos. But Theo
        doesn't dance. Or take videos.
        \_ Start your own niche OS project that businesses want.
2007/9/13-14 [Academia/Berkeley, Reference/Military] UID:48045 Activity:moderate
9/13    I don't know if any students still read this, but I know some
        staff does. Be careful out there:
        http://www.insidebayarea.com/oaklandtribune/localnews/ci_6880995
        (Crime wave targeting Cal students) -ausman
        \_ Thanks ausmas, this is one of the reasons that I want to get
           a taser.                                     -taser below
           \_ The reasons so many muggings involve people getting beat up
              first is if a group of people run up to you and hit you hard
              99% of the people's reaction is to be stunned for a bit.
              Stunned and on the ground most likely.  Which gives someone
              plenty of time to grab your stuff and run off.  Muggings aren't
              fights, if done right you don't have any warning.
              \_ Yeah and if there are >1 muggers, your taser isn't really
                 going to help you. Just avoid black people.
              \_ yes. train in handling a gun and it'll be second nature to not
                 be stunned and gun down 2 or more muggers
                 \_ And the you'll wake up.
        \_ Wow, that celaya is a bit of a dolt.  Can we get a brighter Asst.
           chief please?  "one off the street, and another one fills his shoes."
           It's not like there are limited spots.
2007/9/13-14 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:48046 Activity:high
9/13    Since we invaded Iraq, there are more than 2million refugees fled
        the country.  My questions to you all are:
        1. do you think we the Americans has a moral obgligation for taken
        care of by settling them in US?
        2. if you don't like the idea of allowing them settle in US, would
        you think we have the moral obgligation to pay countries who do?

        We have generated a huge proportion of refugees (something like 1 in
        4 Iraqis are displaced since American intervention.  I am just a bit
        curious why this topic never bought up anywhere.
        \_ Who says they want to come to the US? Who says they aren't happier
           moving to tribal areas with people more like themselves?  Who says
           we haven't helped any of these people?  Some urls would help.
           \_ US doesn't issue Visa to Iraqis, not even those who have gotten
              themselves in trouble by translations, etc.
              \_ Can they get AmEx instead?
        \_ How much should Al Qaeda pay to relocate the refugees?
           \_ how does it relevent?  Al Qaeda didn't create this mess.
2007/9/13-14 [Science/Space] UID:48047 Activity:nil
9/13    Attn: motd gazillionaires: if you're looking for a worthy cause,
        try buying thousands of these and distribute them throughout Africa:
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/yt644z (Telegraph article on Life Saver
        water bottle, as seen on /.)
2007/9/13-14 [Uncategorized] UID:48048 Activity:nil
9/12    And it turns out eavesdropping didn't contribute to stopping the
        terrorist plot in Germany anyway:
        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20749773/site/newsweek
2007/9/13-14 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:48049 Activity:very high
9/12    Actual history of the Patriot Act, for those who think that GWB
        had nothing to do with it:
        http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/usapatriot
        "When the legislative proposals were introduced by the Bush
        administration in the aftermath of September 11th, Attorney General
        John Ashcroft gave Congress one week in which to pass the bill --
        without changes. Vermont Democrat Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate
        Judiciary Committee, managed to convince the Justice Department to
        agree to some changes, and members of the House began to make
        significant improvements. However, the Attorney General warned that
        further terrorist acts were imminent, and that Congress could be to
        blame for such attacks if it failed to pass the bill immediately."
        Yes, Congress passed it, after the usual intimidation and fearmongering
        from the White House, but is it Bush's baby.
        \_ Cute and all but that isn't how legislation is created or passed.
           It requires a sponsor and Congress does not have to convince the
           Justice Department or the AG or anyone else of anything.  The
           legislature makes the laws.  Period.  If they don't have the guts
           to deal with their job, they need new jobs.  "Oh no mean mr. bush
           scared us so we abdicated our constitutionally granted power and
           just fell over like so many pansies in the wind, boo hoo, you're
           so mean mr. bush!  it isn't our fault!  vote for us and we'll fix
           it and we'll end bush's war, too!!"  riiiiight.
           \_ I agree with you that Congress abdicated their responsibilty
              here, but the true author of the legislation was the Justice
              Department. We do need to flush most of Congress and get a new
              one. Feingold, we can keep, the rest need to go.
        \_ So now I know where you get all your incorrect assumptions. You read
           wacko sites like http://epic.org. Apparently, you're also one of those
           people who sees everything in black and white. Either GWB was the
           primary person behind the Patriot Act, or he had nothing at all to
           do with it.
           \_ Please tell me this is intended as sarcastic.  Do you seriously
              think of EPIC as a wacko organization?  Do you think the EFF is
              a wacko organization? -dans
              \_ you're an idiot.
                 \_ Oh man, you really got him that time! Zing!
              \_ Maybe you should re-evaluate your extremist views, dans.
                   The June 1995 issue of WIRED magazine quoted a member of the
                   Electronic Frontier Foundation as saying that EPIC "made
                   everybody else at the table look moderate. It's the old
                   good-cop-bad-cop routine."
                   \_ In 1995 the EFF was radical.  They realized there was
                      a damn good chance important rights were going to be
                      stomped on and acted quickly to fight that.  That was
                      12+ years ago, when almost noone had any concept
                      of digital privacy and rights.  Then there was this
                      whole thing called the .com revolution and now, and
                      while the EFF may not be mainstream it is far from
                      extremist.
                      \_ Anyone who does not support the Patriot Act is
                         an extremist. EFF does not support the Patriot Act.
                         Therefore EFF is extremist. Q.E.D.
                         \_ Nice strawman.
2007/9/13 [Uncategorized] UID:48050 Activity:nil
9/13    why do you hate my 32DDD's?
2007/9/13-14 [Uncategorized] UID:48051 Activity:kinda low
9/13    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20586948
        Penta-millionaire is the new millionaire (inflation)
        \_ Don't worry, with the housing plump, "millionaire" will re-gain its
           old status soon.
        \_ 'A proposed amendment would create a new definition for "large
           accredited investor" that ...... would exclude the equity in one's
           personal residence.'
           Poll: What's your net worth by this new definition?
           < $0         :
           $0-250K      :
           $250K-500K   : x
           $500K-750K   :
           $750K-1M     : x
           > $1M        :
2007/9/13-14 [Industry/Jobs] UID:48052 Activity:kinda low
9/13    I think this thread is hilarious:
        http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2205007948&topic=12544
        Someone totally needs to start a "Buy Emily a Belt" group. -dans
        \_just bumps me to my profile, do i need to be in the berkeley
          group to see it or something?
          \_ Hurm.  It's the developer discussion board.  You may need to
             have the developer application installed.  Try hitting:
             http://www.facebook.com/developers
2007/9/13-14 [Recreation/Dating] UID:48053 Activity:nil
9/13    Knocked Up is a pretty good movie.  You know why I don't blog?
        Because each entry would be a bitter ode to how I have a longterm
        perfectly serviceable girlfriend, but we haven't had sex in almost
        6 months.  oh wait I do complain every day.  nevermind.
2007/9/13-14 [Uncategorized] UID:48054 Activity:nil
9/13    Convicted rapist out of jail after serving only six months, just
        because he issued an apology.  What justice.
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070913/ap_on_re_us/to_forgive_release
        "Having waited 20 years for justice this shortened sentence makes
        justice feel incomplete," the victim wrote.
2007/9/13-14 [Science/Space, Transportation/PublicTransit] UID:48055 Activity:nil
9/13    http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/09/13/MNFIS5MBO.DTL
        You poor bastards trying to get home from SF... I weep for you.
        \_ Good news for those that usually don't use the affected on-ramp.
        \_ My wife and her co-workers take BART, and they live in Fremont and
           Newark.
        \_ Time for another tax cut!
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