Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2007:August:19 Sunday <Saturday, Monday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2007/8/19-20 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Men] UID:47653 Activity:high
8/17    What is the difference between being celibate and abstinence?
        \_ One is "I'm celibate thus I'm closer to God!" and the other
           one is "I've tried abstinence but it doesn't work when I'm
           too horny."
           \- Dont consider this authoritative but after some reflection:
              1. celibacy AFAIK is only WRT sex, as with chastity.
                 abstinence is potentially broader.
                  \_ I think you may have that reversed. I see celibacy
                     used often about priests, implying a broad absence
                     of romance.
                     \- i dont understand what you are saying.
                        a doctor might say "you need to abstain from sex
                        for 2 weeks after your penis operation". he would
                        not say "you need to remain chaste/celibate".
                        note that chastity/chaste can refer to not having
                        extra-maritial sex. again the precise or theoretical
                        differences arent that important since actualy
                        differences arent that important since actual
                        use is pretty loose and defined by context.
                        \_ I think I misunderstood your post, nevermind.
                           (didn't take it in context as a reply to parent)
              2. celibacy i believe usually suggest a some kind of external
                 motivating factor, usually religious obligation or
                 recommendation. abstinence might slightly more suggest an
                 internal "lifestyle choice".
              3. in practice, they are all pretty synonymous. how many people
                 distinguish between "persuade" and "convince" for example...
                 a case where even people who know the differnece dont bother
                 with it.
                 even people who know the difference dont bother with it.
2007/8/19 [Politics/Domestic/Gay] UID:47654 Activity:nil
8/17    This is crazy stuff, from Boing Boing:
        Shannon Larratt, founder of the body modification online
        publication BMEzine, points us to a first-person essay by a
        person named Yard[D]og regarding the deceased, adoptive father
        of Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove (the younger
        Mr. Rove is shown in the image below).
        About the contents, Mr. Larratt Karl s father was not only gay,
        but a part of the early body piercing scene and a regular at 70s piercing
        It is published in entirety on BMEzine with detailed photos said to depict
        the elder Rove's numerous genital piercings.
2007/8/19 [Uncategorized] UID:47655 Activity:nil
8/17    It has come to my attention there are people on this planet
        who have not seen the following video:
        Please watch, thanks.
2007/8/19 [Uncategorized] UID:47656 Activity:nil
8/17    fucker.  deleting my entries.  i'll get you!
2007/8/19-20 [Uncategorized] UID:47657 Activity:moderate
8/19    List the gayest sports in America. I'll start: figure skating.
        \_ Road cycling. Tight spandex, effiminate skinny guys.
           Need I say more?
        \_ American Football
2007/8/19 [Uncategorized] UID:47658 Activity:nil
8/19    Extremism not tolerated and deleted. Sorry.
2007/8/19-20 [Transportation/Car, Science/GlobalWarming] UID:47659 Activity:high
08/20   I drive a 90s Japanese automobile, and I live in the
        bay area, where the weather just isn't that bad.  What
        sort of motor oil should I be using?
        \_ weather is irrelevant in the Bay Area where temperature

           and humidity swing are minimal. More importantly, you should
           be CONSISTENT with the motor oil you use (stick to one brand,
           one type, and change on a consistent schedule). 90s car require
           oil change every 3K miles. A decent brand 10W/30 does the job.
2007/8/19-20 [Recreation/Humor] UID:47660 Activity:high
8/20    It's funny about animals, how we treat them simultaneously like
        they're human and subhuman. I realized just how fuzzy this line
        was when I was taking a bath this afternoon, and Milo strolled
        into the room and proceeded to intensely stare as I shaved my
        nether regions. I found I was made somewhat uncomfortable by
        this and shooed him out of the room. Why is that?
        \_ You're not into bestiality.
           \_ You don't actually believe anyone on Soda had this experience,
              right?  It's obviously a cut/paste troll.
2007/8/19-20 [Transportation/Airplane] UID:47661 Activity:nil
8/20    China Airlines sucks!!! Crash in 2002, 1999, 1998, and 1994,
        killing over 1000 people. Screw China & fly EVA. Support Ah-Bian!
        \_ In other words flying is still safer than driving. Also
           private planes (general aviation) still kills the most:
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