Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2007:July:27 Friday <Thursday, Saturday>
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2007/7/27-8/1 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:47442 Activity:nil
7/27    these are really odd photos (kind of political content)
        http://tinyurl.com/36dgwx
        \_ MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
2007/7/27-29 [Finance] UID:47443 Activity:nil
7/27    hello, what are the three credit report reporting agencies?
        \_ Experian, Equifax, and Transunion
2007/7/27 [Reference/Military] UID:47444 Activity:moderate
7/27    Sikhs are actually pretty bad ass radicals
        http://www.exile.ru/2007-July-27/war_nerd.html
        \_ Of course.  Don't you see them wearing turbans?
2007/7/27-31 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:47445 Activity:nil
7/27    This is one crazy story.
        http://news.google.com/news?&ncl=1118495264
        One of the suspects is the scion of a wealthy Russian family.
        I like how seomeone went through wikipedia already and linked
        their pages to the younger suspect.
2007/7/27-29 [Recreation/Dating, Health] UID:47446 Activity:nil
7/27    HOTT!!!!!!!!!!
        http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/w4m/382307737.html
        \_ "I play [WOW] a lot, but mostly because I have nothing else to do."
           How about getting a job and some exercise?
2007/7/27-29 [Uncategorized] UID:47447 Activity:moderate
7/27    Happy SysAdmin Day.
        \_ Seconded, thanks sysadm! What are some ways to show my appreciation?
        \_ shit on my face then tell me that you love me.  Seriously.
        \_ Thanks, admins!
2007/7/27-8/1 [Transportation/Car/Hybrid] UID:47448 Activity:nil
7/27    Swiss name Toyota's Prius the world's greenest car
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070727/sc_nm/cars_pollution_dc
        \_ I guess they don't count the strip mine for the nickel.
           \_ The Prius isn't the only car that contains nickel.
          \_ We don't actually drive them, we just name them.  Our
             public transportation system works fine.  -John
2007/7/27-31 [Uncategorized] UID:47449 Activity:nil
7/27    wtf does this even mean?
        Model N's competitive drive to be the pioneer and market leader in
        Revenue Management has created career opportunities for
        qualified candidates. This is your chance to break through the
        boundaries. As a contributing member of Model N, you will work
        with extremely bright and motivated people who are passionate
        about what they do and drive results. We are a company where
        everyone can make a difference and is encouraged to achieve
        their full potential.
        \_ We are hiring, but we are still small. You will work hard to
           help us make it big. Your coworkers will be intolerable jerks
           who think they are smarter than they really are. You will work like
           a dog, but if you help us make it rich we may have a pittance to
           share with you. Apply if you are smart, willing to work cheap,
           and have no self-esteem.
        \_ 'this is your chance to break through the boundaries' is the
           only thing that really bugs me
2007/7/27-8/1 [Health/Eyes] UID:47450 Activity:nil
7/27    ilyas, if healthcare has no positive effects, to what then do we
        attribute the huge increase in expected human lifespan in rich
        industrialized countries over the last 100 years?  Of course improved
        sanitation is one obvious cause, but it can't account for everything.
        \_
        \_ Have you actually read the study?  They weren't comparing 'medicine'
           to 'no medicine,' but 'free medicine' to 'medicine you pay for
           yourself.'  They found almost no positive effect except in I think
           two cases.  One was optometry, and I forget the other one, but
           essentially the statistics would expect one positive result like
           that just from the noise.  The 'causal explanation' is that if you
           perceive the healthcare as 'free' you go in for more procedures and
           this becomes counterproductive, whereas if you pay for everything
           yourself, you tend to go see a doctor when you think you really
           need it, and in that case medical intervention is far far more likely
           to actually be beneficial.  (They adjusted for things like income
           and initial health of course). -- ilyas
           \_ Did you read the study yourself?  They were comparing
              free medical care to cost-sharing--not to "medicine you pay
              for yourself".  They found positive effects including 10%
              reduced morbitity due to hypertension in the population that
              got free medical care.  They found the population that
              cost-shared went to doctors less often for *all kinds* of
              procedures, including highly effective ones.  And the positive
              effects were more pronounced among the poorest of the population.
              The study simply doesn't say what you says it does.  Also, it
              was done in 1982 and health care has changed enormously since
              then, particularly in the U.S.  And, you're a moron.  -tom
              \_ From the actual study pdf results section (not the glitzy 2006
                 html summary you read): "For the 'average' person enrolled in
                 the experiment, we observed two significant positive effects of
                 free care relative to cost-sharing: corrected far vision
                 (i.e., when the enrolle was wearing his or her usual glasses
                 or contact lenses) was better by 0.1 Snellen lines
                 (p = 0.001) and diastolic blood pressure was lower by 0.8 mm
                 Hg (p = 0.03).  For the remaining measures, confidence limits
                 for the differences between the free and cost-sharing plans
                 were sufficiently narrow to conclude that, for the average
                 participant, any true differences would be clinically and
                 socially negligible."  Yes, clearly the subjects didn't
                 pay for the entire care themselves (although in one regime
                 it was 95% of the cost I think), nor did I imply they did --
                 I used the same 'summary language' the study authors did
                 themselves.  I won't call you a moron, I ll let history
                 be the judge. -- ilyas
                 \_ ilyas is a moron  -history
                    \_ But... but... but he'e my FRIEND!! *sob*
                       --the invisible hand
           \_ Ilyas, would you please re-post your link?  Either someone
              keeps deleting it or I've just missed it.  Thanks.
              \_ Search for 'jrleek.' -- ilyas
2007/7/27 [Recreation/Pets] UID:47451 Activity:low 66%like:47436
7/27    i hate you motd dog guy
        \_ Go fuck yourself.
           \_ I hate you.  and your dog.
           \_ Go fuck yourself. and your dog.
           \_ Go fuck yourself. and your little dog.
2007/7/27-8/1 [Recreation/Food] UID:47452 Activity:nil
7/27    How is salad (ready made and lettuce in general) processed
        before it's shipped to restaurants and supermarkets? I'm curious
        if irradiation or clorine wash is done. Eating raw salad
        increases the chance of getting worms and I'm wondering how
        much worm/egg I have personally ingested throughout my lifetime,
        and if my chronic abdomen cramp is caused by worms.
        \_ You missed all that bacterial contamination news a few months ago?
        \_ "abdomen cramp"? your ab muscles are involuntarily flexing?
        \_ If you suspect you have worms, you should talk to your Doctor,
           not the motd.
2007/7/27 [Uncategorized] UID:47453 Activity:nil
7/27    Stupid drivel trash, political or not, deleted. You're welcome.
2007/7/27 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:47454 Activity:moderate
7/27    lol
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxWgRY1I_SI
        \_ is there a more sure way to announce that a link isn't funny
           than to title it "lol"?
           \_ The Youtube video, from Fox News, is about 'lol'.  I'm sorry
              if I didn't feel like explaining more at the time.
              Also, FUCK YOU MOTD PUPPY GUY.
2007/7/27 [Recreation/Pets, Uncategorized/Profanity] UID:47455 Activity:nil
7/27    fuck you motd puppy guy
2007/7/27-31 [Uncategorized] UID:47456 Activity:nil
7/27    I like sucking cock. I am gay, and I'm coming out. -- ilyas
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