Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2007:July:23 Monday <Tuesday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2007/7/23-26 [Uncategorized] UID:47376 Activity:nil
7/22    Is it just me or it seems like kids today crave attention more
        so than the previous generation with their stupid messages like
        "Hey listen to my band and the music I wrote!"? Jesus Christ,
        no one gives a damn about your stupid band.
        \_ it's just you.
        \_ Americans nowadays are too busy in feeling special.
2007/7/23-26 [Uncategorized/Profanity, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:47377 Activity:nil
7/21    NSFW
        \_ Makes me horny.
2007/7/23-26 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:47378 Activity:nil
7/23    Can anyone recommend a lightweight caching web proxy for unix
        that is not squid? thanks.
        \_ Apache used to have a caching module. The only other non-
           commerical caching proxy I know of is polipo:
           I don't know anyone who is using it though.
        \_ What is wrong with squid? -ausman
2007/7/23-26 [Recreation/Humor] UID:47379 Activity:nil
        Now *that's* a funny product.
        \_ R&D must have started right after Lewinskygate.
2007/7/23-26 [Uncategorized] UID:47380 Activity:nil
7/23    Apparently we really *do* use only 10% of our brain:
        Given this, I wonder WTF we evolved such a huge brain.
        \_ "...with a government job."  I rest my case.
           \_ Granted, the guy took an IQ hit, but even so he's way
              smarter than the next smartest animal.  How come we have
              such large brains given this info?  Seems like a waste.
              \_ yeah, and why do we have four fingers and two ears?
                 \_ A brain is an extremely expensive object to
                    maintain.  Selection pressure favors two eyes
                    and two ears (depth and direction perception).
                    Good question on the # of fingers.  Anyway,
                    the point is that the cost of 4 fingers isn't
                    much more than the cost of three, but a brain
                    that is 5x larger than required for a given
                    intellect is hard to understand.
                    \_ the brain isn't 5x larger than required for a given
                       intellect.  We also have two kidneys and two gonads.
                       Nature builds redundancy.
        \_ The key section of the article, "Experts say it shows how amazing
           the brain is in that it can deal with something which is not
           considered to be compatible with life and they suggest that when
           something happens very slowly over a period of time, different
           parts of the brain assume functions that would normally be done by
           the part that is pushed to the side."
                           \_ As an aside, it's not really clear that
                              we have 2 kidneys for "redundancy".  Why not
                              two hearts/two brains/two spines?  It might
                              just be "easier" to have certain organs
                              symmetric--i.e., the reason for 2 kidneys
                              may not be redundancy at all.
                       \_ It *seems* that you must be right--I do not
                          think an item as expensive as a brain would
                          be allowed to have a 5x redundancy factor by
                          selection pressure.  However, this person is
                          pretty much functional with a very small brain.
                          It is hard to understand.
2007/7/23-26 [Uncategorized/German] UID:47381 Activity:low
7/23    Heil German John! Can you point us to a URL of these pictures?
        \_ Do you enjoy implying all Germans are Nazis?
           \_ Do you enjoy implying that Germans are not nudists?
           Enjoy. NSFW if you are a prudish American.
2007/7/23 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iran, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:47382 Activity:nil 88%like:47386
7/23    Why aren't we just bombing this country already?
2007/7/23-26 [Computer/SW/Unix, Computer/SW/Unix/WindowManager] UID:47383 Activity:nil
7/23    shac don't you work at  what the hell
        are you doing?
2007/7/23-26 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:47384 Activity:nil
7/23    kchang i am using emacs + tramp to edit /etc/motd.public .
        this is a great solution for anyone editing the motd.
        emacs notifies me if the motd has changed since i started
        editing it, so i don't rudely stomp on anyone's changes.
        \_ Just lock the motd, like everyone else and you won't have
           to worry about it.
           \_ i guess it's for my own benefit, so the dude I am
              writing over doesn't write over what I just wrote!
2007/7/23-26 [Uncategorized] UID:47385 Activity:kinda low
7/23    Who is the HEIL GERMAN guy? So annoying
        \_ HINT: it's not just one guy.
        \_ kchang.
           \_ Uh, no. You better have damn good evidence before accusing
              anyone of saying hideous things.                  -kchang
              \_ says the man with the fucked-up post tagging algorithm.
2007/7/23-26 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iran, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:47386 Activity:nil 88%like:47382
7/23    Why aren't we just bombing this country already? (
        \_ Yeah I bet those young women are just begging to be bombed.
2007/7/23-26 [Recreation/Pets] UID:47387 Activity:low
7/23    Dear fellow puppy parents. If you have those non-shedding fluffy
        hair type of pups, at what age are you suppose to shave your puppy
        completely so that it'll grow fuller hair as an adult? Also, what
        was your crate-training schedule like? Is it something like
        sleep sleep sleep->wake->poo outside->play->eat->poo outside->
        sleep sleep sleep->wake->poo outside->play->eat->poo outside->
        repeat 8 times a day? I'm thinking of taking an entire month
        off (plus maybe 1-2 more weeks) till he's maybe 4 months old.
        \_ ^parents^owners
        \_ "owners" -> "guardians" -> "parents"???  So now even "guardians"
           are not politically correct anymore?
        \_ Shaving won't affect hair later in life.
        \_ Crate training: the 'rule' is that a dog can spend no more than an
           hour or two at a time in a crate per month of life.  For our dogs,
           one absolutely refused to go in the crate at all but was really
           easy to train to knock to go outside around the corner to his spot.
           The other one loves her crate but we had a very hard time getting
           her to let us know when she needed to go out.  The carpet was just
           as good in her mind.  What we did was hang some bells from the back
           door handle, took her out a *lot*, like every 30-60 minutes all
           day, every day, rang the bells when we opened the door and gave her
           a treat when she came back in.  At night, one of us would stay up
           later and the other would get up early so she'd be crated as short
           a time as possible. After a short time she got the idea and started
           smacking the bells to go out all day to get her treat.  Over time
           we reduced the treat load and she stopped ringing for no reason and
           now she's old enough and has the bathroom concept down.  Repetition
           is the key.  One thing you *never* want to do is leave your dog in
           the crate for so long they can't wait and mess their crate.  Once a
           dog has broken their crate training like that you are hosed.  They
           won't mess their crate from the natural instinct to not mess their
           own bed area but if you leave them no choice they'll keep doing it.
           I've seen puppies rolling in their own filth at puppy mill places
           and pet stores.  Never take one of those home.  Oh yeah, most pups
           have to go sometime in the first 20 minutes after a play session,
           so be alert or just take them out if they've been romping around
           the living room.  Nature's Miracle for the errors.  Look up the
           Sirius method of pet training for an all positive reinforcement
           scheme that works with most dogs.
           \_ Most helpful post ever. Thanks. What's your login?
              \_ reiffin.  Feel free to send mail if you want to talk more dog
2007/7/23-26 [Recreation/Dating] UID:47388 Activity:nil
7/23    some of these teachers are kind of hot (WorldNetDaily: The big list: Female teachers
        with students)
        \_ Some?  Just ONE.  The rest of them, you have to think, are
           abusing their position of relative power to get student sex.
           \_ I can count about a dozen or more who are attractive.  Remember,
              some of these are booking photos where the woman is not wearing
              makeup and has probably been up all night crying about having to
              go to jail. In fact, I am surprised at how attractive some of
              these women are.
              these women are. At least three of them were beauty pageant
              \_ Just ONE! Just ONE! I tell you! (which one, btw?) I agree
                 with the previous poster.
2007/7/23-26 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:47389 Activity:kinda low
7/23    Large majorities of people in the US and in Europe want higher
        taxation for the rich, and view globalization as a negative force.
        \_ One problem is defining what "rich" means.
           \_ That's easy, I'm pretty sure the standard everyone in the survey
              was using was "richer than me."
           \_ Easily done: Income > $1,000,000 per year.
              \_ "But but but that is COMMUNISM!!! Time to lobby to make
                  sure this never happens."             -multi-millionaire
              \_ Unfortunately, politicians define "rich" as between $75K and
                 $200K / yr. depending on who is asking the question.
                 \_ Sure, and they're wrong. We all know that millionaires are
                    rich, since they're the only ones who can afford a house
                    the SFBA. Kidding aside, aggressive prosecution under
                    existing laws and repeal of the wealthy-subsidies passed
                    under the Bush Admin would put us back into a surplus.
                    \_ Yes but the economy will halt because there will
                       be no more wealth to trickle down to the poor
                       and everyone will suffer.    -Reagan #12523121 fan
                       \_ Mr. Reagan fan, why does trickle down smell like
                          something out of an R. Kelly home movie?
2007/7/23-26 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:47390 Activity:low
7/23    Senate on track to have more than three times the record amount of
        filibusters recorded since 1963
        \_ Yes, if you extrapolate 6 months out to 24.
           \_ Yes, and that's what "on track" seemed to imply
              \_ It is of course lying with stats.  They don't show comparable
                 filibusters in the same time period for other sessions,
                 especially the session just before a presidential election.
                 \_ How about YOU come up with those stats to show that
                    it isn't a reasonable statistic?  So much easier to
                    just shout down the problem and hope that works, eh?
2007/7/23-28 [Recreation/Media] UID:47391 Activity:nil
7/23    I don't get it.  Blockbuster is killing Netflix, yet Blockbuster's
        selection is crap.
        \_ Last think I read, just a month or so ago, was that Blockbuster
           was failing miserably.
        \_ I used to be a Netflix customer about 7 or 8 years ago -
           whenever it was that DVD was still pretty new and most video
           stores didn't carry them. I didn't see the point in staying
           with them. I paid a monthly fee whether I rented or not and the
           service started degrading over time. You could have fewer
           with them. I paid a monthly fee whether I rented or not and
           the service started degrading over time. You could have fewer
           movies out at a time, they had to be received before they would
           ship new ones, and they got lost or stolen in the mail. I know
           Blockbuster has now adopted a similar model, but I just go into the
           video store when I want a movie. I find that cheaper and more
           convenient. I liked the Netflix selection, but it's not really about
           selection. One nice thing about Blockbuster's plan is that you
           can return and checkout movies at the video store in addition
           to using the mail.
           Blockbuster has now adopted a similar model, but I just go into
           the video store when I want a movie. I find that cheaper and
           more convenient. I liked the Netflix selection, but it's not
           really about selection. One nice thing about Blockbuster's plan
           is that you can return and checkout movies at the video store
           in addition to using the mail.
        \_ My guess is that the average American consumer doesn't care
           about "selection," they are interested in having the latest
           Hollywood release the day it comes out. Netflix is pretty
           bad about that sort of thing, especially if you live in a
           remote location. BB is much better for the average american
           because they only stock the latest Hollywood POS.
           Personally, I'll stick with Netflix b/c they have a better
           selection of foreign, pbs, bbc, nat'l geo, gay, &c. than even
           the Cupertino library.
2007/7/23 [Reference/History/WW2/Germany, Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity] UID:47392 Activity:nil
7/23    Heil Hitler!
        \_ Germany was having trouble
           What a sad, sad story
           Needed a new leader to restore
           Its former glory
           Where, oh, where was he?
           Where could that man be?
           We looked around and then we found
           The man for you and me
           And now it's...
           Springtime for Hitler and Germany
           Deutschland is happy and gay!
           We're marching to a faster pace
           Look out, here comes the master race!
           Springtime for Hitler and Germany
           Rhineland's a fine land once more!
           Springtime for Hitler and Germany
           Watch out, Europe
           We're going on tour!
           Springtime for Hitler and Germany...
           \_ Going through grandpa's garbage, to see what I could find.
              I find a bunch of goodies, from 1945.
              I see all those items, from the good old days.
              His metals in his hands, and his uniforms all gray!
              Grandpa was a Sturmfuehrer, in the SS.
              Grandpa was a Sturmfuehrer, in the SS.
              Grandpa was a Sturmfuehrer, in the SS.
              Sturmfuehrer, Sturmfuehrer, in the SS.
              In an SS Panzer unit grandpa rolled with pride.
              Cleansing Bolshevics from the Russian country side!
              Every red commie bastard that stood in his way.
              Hey would shoot them down, day after day!
              Today I smile when I see his uniform.
              I know it's battle tested, I know it's battle worn!
              Death Head on his hat, gleams in my eyes!
              Hail! to your grandpa, now your grandpa's by your side!
              I'll be a Sturmfuehrer, in the SS.
              I'll be a Sturmfuehrer, in the SS.
              I'll be a Sturmfuehrer, in the SS.
              Sturmfuehrer, Sturmfuehrer, in the SS.
              Grandpa was a Sturmfuehrer, in the SS.
              Grandpa was a Sturmfuehrer, in the SS.
              Grandpa was a Sturmfuehrer, in the SS.
              Sturmfuehrer, Sturmfuehrer, in the SS.
2007/7/23 [Uncategorized] UID:47393 Activity:nil
7/23    Life is like WoW
        i dont know how
        but everyone on it
        is fat as a cow
2007/7/23-28 [Recreation/Dating] UID:47394 Activity:kinda low
7/23    Anyone watched Wife Swap on ABC? Is it just me or it seems
        like they made the liberal housewife seem overly evil (drinking
        alcohol & swearing in front of kids) and the conservative
        housewife too good to be true? I mean, I've never met a woman
        who would actually stay home, *cook* amazing meal, clean house,
        take care of kids (and preach religion), and be really nice to her
        husband! It's just too good to be true. It makes me want to be
        part of the religious movement even though I'm not religious.
        \_ Who wouldn't want a cheerful slave^H^H^H^H^Hhelpmeet to tend
           to him and his family?
           \_ Yeah much better for everyone if the illegal nanny raises the
              kids speaking Spanish while they're both out improving their
              self-esteem and bank accounts climbing the corporate ladder
              and making money so they can afford the best divorce lawyers
              later.  But don't worry about the kids, they'll be much happier
              after their biological parents are divorced so they'll have
              even more time to spend with the nanny/mom.
              \_ Yay, one-dimensional caricatures duking it out as proxies for
                 complex social issues on both sides!
                 \_ Post a caricature, get a caricature back.  Welcome to the
                    motd.  Let us know when you have the motd quality sound
                    bite that properly analyses today's complex social issues.
                    \_ "on both sides" Welcome to the Reading is Fundamental.
                       I didn't post the previous caricature.
                       \_ Try again.  Reading *is* fundamental.  Please try it.
        \_ There are plenty of good women out there.  Your odds of meeting
           them in a place like San Francisco are very low.
           \_ The definition of good/bad is very subject. However, I will
              1/2 agree with you that the odds of meeting a CONSERVATIVE
              woman in SF is very low. Most of them are ultra liberal and
              care more about saving the whale and saving whatever crap
              over anything else. I'm not even going to into their bad
              habits like alcohol, marijane, Burning Man, bad music,
              party, not shaving legs and ride Critical Mass, etc etc.
               I will on the other hand have to say that I'm very
              impressed by the Indian women in San Jose/Sunnyvale. Many
              of them were brought over by their husbands who work in
              the tech industry and seem very nice people. Two of my
              co-workers' wives also cook everyday, raise kids, take care
              of their homes meticulously, and treat their husbands
              like king. Obedient wives I've met: Punjabi and the ones
              from different parts Southern India. Worst wives I've met:
              Bengali. Bengalis are extremely well educated and pretty
              much white inside, love to wear nice expensive Western
              accoutrement, drive Mercedes, and divorce easily.
              \_ congrats on being able to differentiate between punjabi
                 bengali southern india whatever.  i don't know the difference,
                 and i don't care.
           \_ Depends on what you are looking for. I would rather that my
              wife be educated and have her own career, so we can pay for
              a maid to do the housecleaning. Divorce rates are highest
              amongst Conservative Christians, probably because they tend
              to marry so young.
              \_ Been there, done that.  Fired the maid.  Wife left her job.
                 We're much happier now.  The idea that your wife is just
                 there as a maid and never seeing her because you're both
                 exhausted from work and never in a good mood is why divorce
                 rates are high.  And who says your stay at home traditional
                 wife can't be educated?  And who is raising your kids while
                 you're both out at work having a career?  The nanny?  Day
                 \_ Kids are passe. The real problem is having any to
                    begin with.
                    \_ Uh yeah, the whole country should just stop having kids.
                       That is a great plan.  Why did you bother posting?
                       \_ I wouldn't have any problem with no one anywhere
                          ever having any kids.
                          \_ Which makes you a freak and not a reasonable
                             participant in these sorts of discussions.
                 \_ I only work 40 hrs/wk and am not particularly exhausted
                    from my job. I am sure my wife would be crankier if she
                    stayed at home all day, since she finds work fulfilling.
                    Why is your wife the stay-at-home one and not you?
                    \_ Because I made 50% more than her at the time.  I would
                       have been perfectly happy to stay home if it was the
                       other way around.  Does that unruffle any ruffled up
                       political correctness feathers?  I'm honestly glad you
                       and your wife find work fulfilling.  Most people find
                       work stressful and unfulfilling.  Having a job that
                       doesn't wear you down is important to happiness for
                       both of you.
                       \_ Glad you found something that works for you both.
                          And yes, the daughter is in daycare about 35 hours
                          a week, which she loves. We think she is happier
                          this way, but it is kind of hard to tell. We still
                          spend more time with her than they do. We think the
                          chance to get socialized is good for her.
                          \_ I don't see how a child can be happier in day
                             care instead of with her parents for all that
                             time.  By age 5-6 kids are in kindergarten or
                             first grade where they get plenty of social time
                             and might actually start to learn something in
                             some areas.  I'm curious what you base the
                             "we think she is happier this way" part on?  How
                             old is she?
                             \_ She shows visible excitement and runs off
                                to play everytime I drop her off. She used
                                to cry when I dropped her off (the first week)
                                now she doesn't even look back and say
                                "bye." She is a toddler, so it is hard to
                                have a conversation with her.
2007/7/23-26 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:47395 Activity:nil
7/23    Families staying in the cities, driving up home prices:
2007/7/23-26 [Uncategorized] UID:47396 Activity:nil
7/23    is thsi shit for real
2007/7/23-28 [Uncategorized] UID:47397 Activity:nil
7/23    I can't find the faculty/student phone book command.  I think it
        used to be 'fspb'.  Does it still exist somewhere?  Thanks.
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