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2007/7/13-14 [Reference/Law/Court, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:47275 Activity:moderate
7/13    "Under the president's reasoning, any while-collar defendant should
        receive no jail time, regardless of the reprehensibility of the crime."
        U.S. District Judge Jeffrey White, a Bush appointee, said before
        sentencing attorney Troy Ellerman to prison.
        DAMN LIBERAL JUDGES!!!!!
        http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/07/13/BAGR7QVVIF1.DTL&type=printable
        \_ I was confused when reading that in the paper today.  I couldn't
           figure out why the judge would bring up Scooter while sentencing
           someone.  I mean I can see why, but legally... it shouldn't
           matter.
           \_ Eh, please read more carefully?  The defense lawyer cited
              the commutation in asking for a lighter sentence.
           \_ Because Bush explicitly said that the sentance was too high.
              That was his rational.  Not that the crime wasn't exactly as
              the prosecution claimed but that jail time was too much for
              the crime.  Therefore jail time should be too much for someone
              else charged with the same crime, no?
              \- i just want to point out this is bullshit ... kinda
                 like when MSFT wanted to pay a fine in donated software.
                 -------------------------------------------------------
                   White gave Ellerman until Sept. 13 to report to
                   prison. He did not impose a fine, saying it would be
                   a hardship for Ellerman's family, but ordered the
                   attorney to give talks at 10 California law schools
                   about "the importance of being a fair and honest
                   advocate" in the three-year period after his release.
                 -------------------------------------------------------
                 1. i dont want an ethics lecture from a criminal
                 2. he will probably put "lectured at X law school"
                    on his resume
                 3. this is hardly unpleasant work
                 4. he should have to do something involving a
                    a orange jumpsuit and used chewing gum.
                    \_ He still has to go to jail for 2 years doesn't he?
2007/7/13-16 [Uncategorized] UID:47276 Activity:nil
7/13    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19740787
        Gunman bursts into party, tastes cheese and wine, gets hug, then leaves
        \_ This is a bullshit story.
        \_ Page not found.
2007/7/13-16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:47277 Activity:nil
7/13    Microsoft Internet Explorer FirefoxURL Protocol Handler Command
        Injection Vulnerability
        http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/24837
2007/7/13-15 [Transportation/Car] UID:47278 Activity:nil
7/13    The Ultimate Unicycle:
        http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=808
        \_ I have a larger version of this; a 700c ultimate wheel is easier
           to ride than a 20".  -tom
           \_ Compared to a unicycle, how much harder is riding an ultimate
              wheel?
              \_ Depends how you define "riding."  To get comfortable on an
                 ultimate wheel takes a lot more practice than getting
                 comfortable on a unicycle.  But getting 10 feet for the
                 first time might be as fast or faster on the ultimate wheel.
                 Although I've never seen anyone try to learn UW who wasn't
                 already a unicyclist, so I don't know what it would be like
                 for a non-unicyclist.  -tom
                 \_ Doesn't seem like you'd get much mechanical advantage
                    from the ultimate wheel.
                    \_ It's enormously strenuous to ride one.  -tom
2007/7/13-16 [Computer/Networking] UID:47279 Activity:nil
7/13    I'm thinking about getting a Soekris 4501 to replace my the P2-400
        that is currently acting as my home firewall. Has anyone used a
        Soekris system for this purpose? If so, how well does it work? Also,
        if there are any alternatives (similar power/form factor), I would
        appreciate links to those as well. tia.
        \_ John got me to use a WRAP box similar to Soekris.  I use this one:
           http://www.pcengines.ch/wrap1e203.htm
           and run m0n0wall on it.  It works very well for its purpose.  You
           should consider what you want out of a firewall.  If all you want
           is just a simple packet filter, you can probably get away with
           buying one of the Linksys WRT54 clones for under $100 and flashing
           the firmware with what you want.  The newer models are fast enough
           to handle some VPN tunnels as well.  You can just disable the wifi
           and use just the wired ports.  Sure, you can do packet filtering
           firewall with these without flashing the firmware, but the default
           firmwares generally only restrict incoming packets and not outgoing.
           \_ Well, I've been using OpenBSD for years and I don't really want
              to switch to something like a WRT54 b/c I don't really trust it
              (or Linux). I was basically looking for something I could run
              OpenBSD on that didn't use a lot of power.
              \_ One thing to keep in mind if you are putting in your own
                 installation on these boxes is the compact flash write
                 count.  So you should consider what type of write access
                 you'll be making in your setup.  I do not know if
                 the CF microdrives would be any better in that respect.
                 I must admit, that once I learned to use PF (on FreeBSD),
                 netfilter/ipnat annoys me more than they used to.
                 \_ Yeah, I read about how to manage CF write count by
                    mostly using memory fs for any rw partition. That
                    will be fine for what I'm doing. I hardly every
                    change the system after install.
2007/7/13-16 [Uncategorized] UID:47280 Activity:nil
7/12    anyone ever try to become a reseller for HP?
        what is involved?   thanks.
        \_ Call HP.
2007/7/13-16 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:47281 Activity:low
7/12    In China, the military comes first.
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070713/ap_on_bi_ge/china_tainted_products
        "BEIJING - China needs to better integrate its fractured regulatory
        system to improve its food safety record, a top health official said
        Friday, as the military warned that unsafe food could undermine its
        ability to fight."
        "Wang's comments came on the same day an official newspaper reported
        that the People's Liberation Army -- the world's largest military --
        has ordered improved safety checks and will buy food only from
        suppliers who pass local government hygiene and safety tests."
        \_ This is so unsuprising as to be laughable... if only it weren't so
           unfunny.
        \_ I don't understand what you find wrong with this.  Any collective
           organization has better bargaining power than an individual, and
           the Army has a perfect right to demand safe food for it's soldiers.
           Is there something I'm missing?
           \_ The Chinese civilian population is much bigger than its military
              population.
        \_ and you are saying in USA, military doesn't come first?
           \_ If you've ever eaten C rations or MREs, you wouldn't have to
              ask.
2007/7/13-16 [Uncategorized] UID:47282 Activity:nil
7/12    Now I know why people become nudists.  Some sunlight
        just shined on my nutsack this morning and it was great.
        \_ Try putting some Ben Gay on it. It will make it nice and warm.
2007/7/13-18 [Health/Disease/General] UID:47283 Activity:kinda low 66%like:47289
7/13    bull scores double kancho
        [unshortened url deleted by self appointed idiot]
        \_ FINE
           http://tinyurl.com/2ssdg3
           \_ "Michael Lenahan had recently overcome testicular cancer that had
              spread to his abdomen and the brothers were celebrating."
           \_ "Michael Lenahan had recently overcome testicular cancer that
              had spread to his abdomen and the brothers were celebrating."
              This family's genital areas really have bad luck.
           \_ This one is my fav:
              http://www.csua.org/u/j5a
              \_ No massive bleeding???
        \_ Why the hack would anybody run in this?
           \_ Because danger is exciting? I think there are much better
              thrills to be had. I guess there's also a mystique to bulls
              and Spain that probably goes back to Hemingway. And I guess
              lots of people are idiots.
2007/7/13-18 [Consumer/Camera] UID:47284 Activity:nil
7/13    Katherine Heigl sure is hot in Valentine.  What a crappy
        movie though.
        \_ 'Katherine Heigl, 29, used her real vagina for the birthing scenes
           in Knocked Up, stating "I'm the type of person who does my own
           stunts.'
           '"Katherine's brave decision to insert a watermelon-sized fake baby
           head into her vagina and then push it out on camera is a tribute to
           mothers across the globe."'
           http://aaaathatsfiveas.blogspot.com/2007/06/pass-it-on.html
2007/7/13-18 [Uncategorized] UID:47285 Activity:nil
7/13    Force Unleased Trailer:
        http://urltea.com/z3i (techeblog.com)
2007/7/13-16 [Science/Electric, Finance/Investment] UID:47286 Activity:nil
7/13    Okay, someone mentioned this a week ago, so I have to ask.
        How many of you are millionaires?
        Bill Gates:
        millionaire: ..
        not a millionaire, but on my way: .
                                          \_ if I pass the july bar :-)
        f**k you:
        Gentlemen do not discuss money or sex: .
        \_ Defined how?
           \_ I think it's current value of all your assets.  This includes
              current market value of your house minus remaining principle in
              your mortgage, current dollar amount in your 401(k), current
              market value of your stocks, money in your saving account, plus
              current market value of your car, TV, stereo, porn magazine
              collection, etc.  The fact that you'll have to pay tax if you
              sell your house, cash out your 401(k), etc. is irrelevant.
              -- !OP
              \_ Does it count if you+spouse > $1M, or do you only count
                 half of the house?
                 \_ I would count my spouse, but it is up to you...
2007/7/13-16 [Uncategorized] UID:47287 Activity:nil
7/13    Anyone else Gold Bond their boys?
        \_ What else are you going to use it for?
        \_ Dude, you must be nasty.
2007/7/13-15 [Finance/Investment] UID:47288 Activity:nil
7/13    screw you gwbush
        \_ Damn this economy!
           \_ Nevermind that debt! (national or consumer or trade deficit)
2007/7/13 [Computer/SW/Languages] UID:47289 Activity:nil 66%like:47283
7/13    bull scores double kancho
        http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070713/481/f04561bb3d2e4c869c591e641a16cf3a&g=events/lf/070607sanferminbulls;_ylt=AjZ0AaXW7wKzuB5opCApOaJbbBAF
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