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2007/7/8-11 [Recreation/Pets] UID:47219 Activity:low
7/8     Dolphins are smarter than dogs & cats.
        \_ Thanks for all the fish.
        \_ Bullshit.  Try teaching a dolphin something any puppy can easily
           be taught: "sit!"
           \_ Here you go:
              http://us-p.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Bradley-Smith/sittingphin.jpg
              \_ Ok.  Not sure what else to say to this but thanks for the
                 effort.
           \_ You know dolphins have been taught to do complex tasks, like
              disarm underwater mines, right?
              \_ Yes of course.  You're aware that usually involves blowing
                 up the mine on themselves, not cutting the red wire?  And
                 they still can't sit.
        \_ So are pigs.
           \_ And pigs taste better, too!
2007/7/8 [Uncategorized] UID:47220 Activity:nil
7/8     Help!! I just missed my traffic school date, am I out of luck or
        can I get some kind of extension? Thanks!! This is in Palo Alto.
2007/7/8-10 [Health/Disease/General, Health/Women] UID:47222 Activity:nil
7/8     George Lucas vindicated - women can die of a broken heart:
        http://www.healthday.com/Article.asp?AID=606042
2007/7/8-10 [Politics/Domestic/President/Reagan] UID:47223 Activity:nil
7/8     Its all Mr. Roger's Fault:
        http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB118358476840657463.html
        \_ Mr. Roger is like Ronald Reagan. Nice guy & well mannered.
           However, as good as their intentions were, the long term
           positive impact of their actions are in question.
2007/7/8-10 [ERROR, uid:47224, category id '18005#8.0875' has no name! , , Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:47224 Activity:nil
7/8     White liberal males love Asians. The Conservative males also had
        the lowest rates of physical attraction towards blacks.:
        http://neuropolitics.org/defaultfeb07.asp
2007/7/8-10 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:47225 Activity:nil
7/8     Those employed by the oil industry had more children than any other
        industry, while those employed in journalism and hotel service
        had the lowest.
        http://neuropolitics.org
2007/7/8-10 [ERROR, uid:47226, category id '18005#8.4175' has no name! , , Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:47226 Activity:nil
7/8     Beautiful blonde conservative females (like the ones in Wisconsin
        and N Dakota) have the greatest preferences for smaller, face-to-
        face social groups, and have, on average, the lowest political
        awareness of the outside world. They are also the most genetically
        selective when it comes to reproduction, that is, they tend to
        mate with genes most similar to their own. [Do White Populations in
        Racially Mixed Regions Become More Conservative Over Time?]
        http://neuropolitics.org/defaultfeb07.asp
        \_ Wisconsin is a famously liberal state. Haven't you ever heard
           of the Democratic Farm Labor Party?
2007/7/8-10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:47227 Activity:high
7/8     Did you forget to take your medication, ilyas?
        \_ The republican cuts means I ll stay out on the streets forever.
             -- ilyas
           ...
           The serious answer is the motd is where I go slumming.  This is not
           a forum for serious discussion, never has been, never will be.
           In fact, why do you suppose the motd survives in this age of
           google groups, blogs, ubiquitous (and moderated) bulletin boards for
           any conceivable topic, and so on?  People go slumming on the motd,
           that's why it survives.  -- ilyas
           \_ Name one forum where the diversity of opinion and quality of
              the discussion is as high. I have searched far and wide
              but the sad truth is that most Internet forums are overrun
              by idiots. The motd is only partially so. -ausman
              \_ You are kidding, right?  I read (and occasionally participate
                 in) the discussions on http://overcomingbias.com, Scott Aaronson's
                 blog, and some other places.  Granted, the topics there are
                 somewhat restricted, but the level of discussion is much
                 higher.  I will grant you that occasionally interesting and
                 insightful things happen on the motd, as on most places on
                 the internet, but by and large the motd is full of banality,
                 biased political discussions, and trolling.  -- ilyas
                 blog, and some other places.  And you know, I am not an
                 Internet jockey by any means, I am sure if I took the time
                 to seek out interesting content I would find much more.
                 Granted, the topics there are somewhat restricted, but the
                 level of discussion is much higher.  I will grant you that
                 occasionally interesting and insightful things happen on
                 the motd, as on most places on the Internet, but by and large
                 the motd is full of banality, political shouting matches, and
                 trolling.  I hate to agree with Holub, whom I can't stand
                 for a number of reasons, but he's right: the motd will stay
                 a morass until anonymity is removed.  I do find your
                 optimism touching, however. -- ilyas
                 \_ Tom is the smartest and best educated guy I know.  How
                    *DARE* you disrespect him?!  Don't you know who he is??
                 \_ No, I am not kidding. I have found plenty of narrowly
                    focused blogs that have good discussion and plenty of
                    wide raging blogs that are echo chambers, but none that
                    combine both.
                    \_ Combine what, good discussion with an echo chamber? :)
                    \_ Combine what, narrow focus with an echo chamber? :)
                       Blogs of academics (like overcomingbias or shtetl)
                       tend to be fairly wide-ranging actually, they just
                       tend to start from a particular point of view that is
                       that particular academic's area.  Good discussion
                       here is the exception, not the rule.  It's not supported
                       here is the exception, not the rule.  It's supported
                       neither by the medium, nor, frankly, by the crowd.
                         -- ilyas
                       \_ Why do you waste your time then? I think you were
                          gone for a while, what brought you back?
                          \_ As I said, the motd is where I go slumming.
                               -- ilyas, Iraq War Supporter Numbah 1!
                               -- ilyas
2007/7/8-10 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:47228 Activity:high
7/8     Psychology Today: Ten Politically Incorrect Truths About Human Nature
        http://csua.org/u/j3j
        \_ exerpt: "The surprising answer is that Muslim suicide bombing has
           nothing to do with Islam or the Quran (except for two lines).
           It has a lot to do with sex, or, in this case, the absence
           of sex."
           GREAT reading thanks.
        \_ nice article.
        \_ So Hitler had it right all along, lets propagate the Aryan
           race since that's what is genetically desirable.  What a load
           of crap, once of the worst articles I've read in a long time.
           of crap, one of the worst articles I've read in a long time.
           Yeah, we can generalize the extremely complex human behavior
           in a few pages. I've never known White guys to like those
           small busted women with straight black hair, who would be
           attracted to them over blondes?  And blonds are so much hotter
           than those ugly ethnic women like Beyonce or Halle Berry.
           The fact the article starts with this B.S. destroys the
           credibility for the rest of their claims.  The whole
           small busted women with brown eyes and straight black hair...
           who would be attracted to them over blondes?  And blonds are so
           much hotter than those ugly ethnic women like Beyonce or Halle
           Berry. The fact the article starts with this B.S. destroys the
           who would be attracted to them over blondes?  And lets not
           forget those ugly ethnic women like Beyonce, Halle Berry or
           J-Lo. The fact the article starts with this B.S. destroys the
           credibility of the rest of their claims.  The whole
           article is immediately refuted by the first line: "Human
           nature is one of those things that everybody talks about but
           no one can define."  And some people wonder why psychologists
           are not respected in the field of science.
           no one can define."  Congratulations, another article to
           boost the stellar reputation psychologists have in the field
           of science.
           \_ The blonde thing is just one example of the article's actual
              point about youth signifiers. It probably applies mostly to
              white women of course as blondes aren't found in Asia...
              Small girls with long shiny black hair probably evoke youth and
              health just as much or more. And not everyone is the same.
              Also, there are a lot more white guys around the bay area than
              there are young blond blue-eyed women. So if they don't really
              have a choice you can't make many conclusions about their
              preference.
        \_ Women prefer men with muscles:
           http://www.csua.org/u/j3o
           \_ Oh no.  People have been telling me otherwise.
              --- skinny guy who failed to gain weight
2007/7/8-10 [Uncategorized] UID:47229 Activity:nil 50%like:47221
7/8     most inane motd of 2007.  good job.
        \- what's inane about it?
        \_ Looks really standard.  Anything in particular setting you off?
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