6/30 JOBS IS YOUR NEW iGOD
\- link:tinyurl.com/2sxpf4
\_ Here is the full article:
http://nymag.com/news/features/33524
\_ Maybe he will actually allow his OS to run in a VM some day.
I don't get all of the iPhone hype. It's a phone. It's a nice
phone, but it's a phone. It doesn't do anything existing
devices didn't do, do them cheaper, or possibly even better (I
haven't used one yet, so I can't say). Why is there so much
hype over a flipping phone? My coworker took off work yesterday
to go get one and when he did he had to spam us all with photos
of him in line, him opening the box, and so on. Give me a
break. I'm sure I'll have some similar device in a year or two
and it will be more featureful and cost half as much. Why is
this such a "must have" device that people will wait in line
to pay $600 for one? And I'm not talking Mac geeks here. I'm
talking 20 year old receptionists in Des Moines.
\_ let me guess, you also think most people are stupid right?
\_ Just people who wait in line for a new phone. -John
\_ I'm a well educated urbanite and I simply don't understand
why people want to live in Los Angeles! It is a total dump
because *I* hate LA and I don't see WHY anyone else wants
to live there!</sarcasm>
\_ What about iPod and Gucci and Louis Vouitton stuff? They are
completely useless shit yet people want them. Why? And what
and Porsche Cayenne and Chevy Suburban? Clearly they have
no values for 98% of the daily commutes in the US but people
want them. Why?
\_ People do not typically line up at 4am a day in advance
to buy a Gucci bag or a Suburban. My question is not:
"Why do people want a phone?" as much as "Why is this
particular phone so hyped?"
\- they might line up at 4am to get a Birkin Bag. It also
costs 10x - 100x what an iPhone costs. Yes, I am not
kidding ... a bag pricier than a Suburban.
\_ Purchacing one of these should be grounds for
institutionalization.
\- if you make me king for 6mos,
i will deal with them.
\_ Shithead.
\_ Welcome, King of Hearts.
\_ I think you mean Queen of Hearts: OFF WITH
THEIR HEADS! Partha, you know that you don't
hit people, right? You know, grade school
stuff. -- ilyas
\_ No, ilyas, I meant The King of Hearts,
with Alan Bates. If he's King of this lot,
trust me, the analogy is apt. --erikred
\_ My apologies, that's even funnier.
\_ I can't speak for the great unwashed since I didn't line
up to buy one, but I'm excited at the idea of an LCARS-
esque interface. I know the iPhone is not that, but it's a
step closer, and that's worth getting excited about. That
said, I don't have $500 for a toy right now.
\_ Well, iPods are the most popular mp3 players, so getting that
with a phone and google maps and whatever must be appealing.
It's a lot of money yeah. I don't know, a lot of people like
to spend money on gadgets and cars. If I travelled around a lot
I think this phone could be quite useful. My non-sexy phone
already plays mp3s fine though and cost nothing.
\_ I forgot to mention that you have to use Cingular's crappy
service. As a current Cingular customer that would seal
the deal for me *not* getting an iPhone right there.
\_ "Yes, but MINE is an apple!"
http://www.hatrack.com/osc/reviews/everything/2005-05-08.shtml
\_ I was reading this, thinking "wow, what an amazingly
stupid person" then I realized it was OSC. Good for a laugh,
but boy is that guy clueless...
\_ I thought he was spot on.
Everybody else makes black notebook computers.
Apple decides to be different and makes white/silver ones
Apple later makes black ones just like everybody else
and now prices them $150 more than their white/silver
ones.
Apple fanbois are idiots.
\_ Do you really think that OS X has the same amount
of security and reliability flaws as Windows XP?
\_ Do you really think the addition of Randy Moss
significantly increases the odds of the Pats
winning the Super Bowl? What the hell does your
question have to do with the statement above?
Stupid Apple fanbois...
\_ Awesome: you'd rather have a cheaper, easier-
to-zombify machine. The irony is choking me.
\_ Your Alanis Morissette sense of irony is
choking me.
\_ I don't know about "easier-to-zombify", but
I, for one, would indeed rather have a
cheaper machine, all else being equal.
\_ I use both at work and home, so I have
no emotional investment here, but the
point seems to be that "all else" is not
equal.
\_ Ya think? Why do you think I said
"all else being equal"? Maybe because
I understand they aren't? The point is
that cost is not a virtue. (But if you
want to get into it, I find them equal
enough that what matters is the apps
available, and Windows wins there.)
\_ Did you even read OSC's rant? If you did, your
English comprehension skills are very poor. Or
maybe I should just follow your lead and say:
OSC fanbois are idiots.
\_ Yes I did read the rant. Did you? One of his
main points is that Apple fanbois seem to
always think that Apple invents stuff that
they just copy. I cited an actual example.
Everybody makes black notebooks. Apple at
first made white ones. Then when they decide
to "think different" and make black notebooks
like everyone else, the Apple fanbois are like
like everyone else, the Apple fanbois are all
OMG! Black! Must have! and Apple charges a
premium for a product that now looks like
everyone else. Now, idiot, please spell out
everything else. Now, idiot, please spell out
why this is untrue without an ad hominem
attack or bashing Microsoft/Sony/Motorola.
Fucking dumbass.
attack on the author (I don't even know who
OSC is other than that he wrote Ultimate
Iron Man which sucked) or bagging on
Microsoft/Sony/Motorola which was never
brought up by me or OSC. Fucking dumbass.
\_ Pretty amusing that the guy who says
"Apple fanbois are idiots" and "fucking
dumbass" now complains about ad hominem
\_ It's called a demonstration of real
irony, moron.
irony, you fucking turd burglar.
\_ Is the part where you claim there
is no reference to Windows in the
article supposed to be "irony" as
well? I am so confused, what part
of your argument is a genuine
attempt to make a point and what
part is just an attempt to
ironically make yourself look
clueless? Maybe you could use
markup tags next time.
attacks. Go back now and v-e-r-y
s-l-o-w-l-y read the part where OSC
says that Mac's are no better than
Windows because they have security
bugs, too! Perhaps you did not realize
this, but the line "just like Windows"
is a reference to a Microsoft operating
system (which you claim OSC never
brought up). He also explicitly mentions
Microsoft in the line "despite the best
efforts of Microsoft." Read more
carefully next time.
\_ Yeah, I find it totally amusing that
you're a total buffoon.
\_ I know you don't care, but your facts
are mostly wrong. Although the Mac
Portable could arguably be called white,
all powerbooks until the g3 era where
grey. In the g3 era, the powerbooks
were black and the iBooks were white
+ color (like the iMacs) (the first
all white iBook came in May 2001). The
black powerbooks were much loved amongst
the fan base. Many fans did not like the
switch to Ti and Al. It is for these
historic customers that Apple seems
to have reintroduced the black MacBook.
The assertion that Apple decided to
"think different" by copying others
is, therefore, mostly inaccurate.
I can understand that you may not
understand why someone would pay more
for a black MacBook than a white one.
That may be a valid argument, but
then again people seem to be willing
to pay more to buy cars and clothes in
specific colors and the use of such
colors, though common by some is still
regarded as "innovated" when adopted by
a major market participant - perhaps
as a reflection of the economic risk
involved.
specific colors.
\_ "I took History of English in grad school and followed the
familiar pattern -- attempt to explain how English got to
be the way it is today."
As a former English major, I find OSC harder and harder to
take seriously. Can he not afford an editor?
\_ I think Cingular went away didnt it |
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