6/28    You know what I hate most about S Cal? Cal Worthington's
        annoying commercials. Long Beach cow boys buying trucks.
        Fuck cowboys, fuck trucks, fuck Cal Worthington's commercials.
                                                          \_ and his dog Spot
                        It isn't Spot's fault.  He's just a rental. _/
        \_ that guy must be dead by now.  he had a car lot in Sacramento
           too.  My dad says cal would sell sailors cars in long beach
           50 years ago.
           \_ I was confused for a bit as I grew up in Central Valley watching
              Cal Worthington commercials.  Now I at least know I'm not
              totally crazy.
        \_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Worthington
           He's still alive, apparently he's 86 years old.
        \_ Is Larry H. Parker still doing ads?

6/27    People vote with emotions and not brains. Fear-mongering works
        better than reasoning-- Why Democrats are destined to lose:
        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19461257/site/newsweek/page/0
        \_ Because Democrats are the party of logic?  Er, ok.  And here I
           thought they did the same fear mongering and heart string pulling
           as the other party.  Or maybe you meant that some third party
           candidate is going to win?
           \_ ...are you really going to tell me that you think the Dems have
              fear-mongered anywhere near the level of Bush and the current
              GOP, the party that made the "us or suitcase nukes in your city"
              part of their 2004 campaign?
              \_ They are no more 'pro-logic' than the other party, yes.  D=R.
                 \_ I'm certainly not exonerating them for their petty foibles,
                    but comparing them to the current Admin and the GOP under
                    DeLay and Gingrich is utterly laughable. Let's try to
                    preserve a modicum of scale.
                    \_ It's on the same scale, just open your eyes and see
                       that just because you agree with something doesn't mean
                       they got there by logic.  Both parties do it equally
                       and treat all the voters like a commodity.
                       \_ I agree with you that they are neither of them
                          logical. We can also agree that firecrackers and
                          thermonuclear devices are explosive, but you wouldn't
                          suggest that the damage done by the first is the
                          same as that done by the latter, would you?
                          \_ OUR LIZARDS ARE BETTER, DAMN IT! -- ilyas
                          \_ You're begging the question.  It isn't
                             firecrackers vs. nukes.  The two parties are the
                             same.  That is exactly the point here.

6/28    First toxic pet food, then toxic fish, juice with unsafe color
        additives, Thomas toy trains with lead paint, toxic toothpastes, and
        now pigs force-fed wastewater and tainted snacks and seafood.  What's
        wrong with Chinese manufacturers these few months?
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070628/ap_on_re_us/china_tainted_food
        \_ It's what happens when you don't believe in government.  We used to,
           y'know, inspect these sorts of things.
           \_ What?
           \_ We used to inspect 100% of all imports?
              \_ Did I say that?  Are you suggesting that these are one-off
                 issues?  A handful of bad apples from otherwise reputable
                 shops, and they just slipped through our totally respectable
                 and responsible screens?
                 \_ We do still do inspections you know. Most of the
                    contamination cases in China are for the domestic market.
                    Also, the ones they ship out are usually picked because
                    they can fool the simple tests.  I don't really think we
                    should've given China such a good trading status, but...
                    \_ So the chinese thinks it's cool to poison chinese?
                       i guess they can breed replacements easily.
                       \_ The Chinese think it's fine to do just about anything
                          as long as you don't get caught. Cf. the current
                          uproar about brick-factory slavery.
                          \- at least China had the "decency" to sentence
                             the SFDA head to death.
                             http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_Xiaoyu
                             How about we execute Brownie? W should be
                             willing to pull the switch.
                             \_ Praising the broken clock for being right
                                twice a day does not make it fixed.
        \_ Not these few months, but always.  It is cheaper to do things wrong.
        \_ "It can be said that the quality of China's exports all are
           guaranteed," Wang [said.]  Oh really?  The PRC's gonna pay?
        \_ Seafood loaded down with lead continues to be imported to South
           Korean from China.  I first heard about it 5 years ago, and it
           appears to still be happening occasionally.

6/28    MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE
        \_ I am Trollimus Prime, leader of the Motdobots

6/28    TRANSFORMERS

6/28    ROBOTS IN DISGUISE

6/28    i got off 5 times this morning.  and it's not even noon!
        \_ Rosy Palm and her five sisters?
          \_yermom was busy.
          \_  I see furious is back!

6/28    forgive me Father, for i have sinned.

6/28    VMware question:  The free downloads area list vmware player and vmware
        converter.  Isn't that enough to do everything?  Convert an existing
        windows box into a .vm image and use the free player to run it.
        What else do I need?  What do the other products like VMware
        workstation
        give me?  Their products page should have a big table listing all
        the major features and bullets showing which product has what.  I
        can't find that.  It's a confusing products page.  Thanks.
        \_ Workstation has some nice features like being able to save multiple
           snapshots and such which is good for developers.  The latest
           version of Workstation also has better hardware support and some
           other goodies.  There's also VMWare Server, which is a free product
           that can let you create VMs as well.  VMWare Server interface is
           limited to one snapshot per VM(though internally, it does keep
           previous snapshots in a linear fashion.  Workstation may offer
           snapshotting in non-linear states - I've never used the Workstation
           product when snapshots were in place.)

6/28    this rules.  safe for eyeballs.
        http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ul3zgUfSgqY
        \_ Good on her.

6/28    Mika Brzezinksi is cool!  These other two guys are douches, but whatever
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VdNcCcweL0

6/28    forgive me Fuehrer, for i have sinned.

6/28    my girlfriend informs me she doesn't really feel any inner
        desire anymore to have sex.  you know how some girls have
        a drawer they keep their sex toys in?  my girlfriend
        has a fucking mail crate.  what should i do.?
        \_ Counseling, medication, dump her.  Whatever order you like.
           Unless of course, you just suck in bed..  Then there's little
                                                                  \_ ha ha
           that can be done.
                \_ is there meds with this stuff?  Do people really wake
                   up and become Anti Paladin Der Furious motd boob guy?
         \_ is the mention of the sex toys to illustrate how much she
           once loved sex?  Or is this a new development?  She's turning
           to the toys as a substitute?  Or maybe she is realizing she's
           gay now?  The possibilities are endless!  It doesn't sound like
           your relationship is very healthy- you need to put some serious
           work into saving it, or just end it.  I recommend picking one
           or the other very very soon, like today.    --brain
        \_ Either you're a bad lover or she's cheating on you.
           \_ Don't listen to this person above. They are clueless.
        \_ Not much you can do, dude. Now you know what marriage is like.
        \_ If you love her enough to want to stick it out, get used to self-
           service and give it time. Depending on what else is going on in her
           life (family, work, etc.), this may just be a phase. If sex is more
           important than she is, consider yourself lucky you found out before
           you got married, and move on.
           \_ Give it time?  No, give it work.  This takes communication
              and probably therapy (if it's worth saving).  A change in
              sexual dynamics doesn't come from nowhere.  And going from
              a contented sex life to a sexless relationship isn't the same
              as, say, wanting to change careers.
              \_ You're right, a change in sexual dynamics doesn't come from
                 nowhere. It sometimes comes from external pressures that you
                 have no hope of actually changing or affecting, in which case
                 communication and support is a good idea, but the overall
                 prescription is patience. In other words, it's not necessarily
                 about you.
        \_ It kind of depends on how long you have been going out together,
           what else is working and not working for you in the relationship,
           and how important sex is to you. If everything else is fine and
           you have been going out for a while, it is probably worth trying
           to figure out what is going on. It is also possible that this is
           just her way of saying she wants to break up, especially if you
           have only been going out for a few months.

6/28    what?
        We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints,
        we can no longer allow access to Pandora for most listeners located
        outside of the U.S. We will continue to work diligently to realize
        the vision of a truly global Pandora, but for the time being we are
        required to restrict its use. We are very sad to have to do this, but
        there is no other alternative. | We believe that you are in Canada
        (your IP address appears to be 129.97.152.65). If you believe we have
        made a mistake, we apologize and ask that you please contact us at
        pandora-support@pandora.com
        \_ Yes, unfortunately outside the US there is no statuatory licensing
           system for Internet Radio.  There was hope that we could establish
           some deals to allow international use, but so far it hasn't
           happened.
           The whole CRB controversy ironically made people in some countries
           more aware of what was going on, and we had to shut off access.
           Sorry about that, it sucks! :(  If you were inside the US
           when you got this message, contact support and they may be able
           to whitelist your IP.  --lye

6/28    "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" defeated in Senate.  Visit your
        favorite biased news source for details.

6/28    Alberto Fujimori: Balls the size of beach balls:
        http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/06/28/ap3869334.html
        (Condensed version: running for Parliament in Japan, considering run
        for Presidency (again) in Peru.)
        \_ Amazing.

6/28    cia family jewels
        dont open this up in firefox
        use opera or IE.  giganto document
        http://tinyurl.com/26pytb
        \_ I wanna know what the redacted number 1 was!  Where's Oliver Stone
           when you need him?
        \_ Can't wait for the Eastern European version in, what, 2021?
        \_ When a government agency or a corporation conduct activities that
           they know are illegal, why do they still take the effort to write
           detailed documents about such activities so that the documents can
           come back and haunt them years later?  If it's me, I'd instead take
           the effort to make sure no trace of such activites are left.
           \_ Don't worry, I think Dick Cheney and Karl Rove have taken this
              advice to heart.
           \_ i think people like documenting what they do for
              internal agency career advancement opportunities

6/28    Mika Brzezinksi is cool!  These other two guys are douches,
        but whatever
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VdNcCcweL0
        this rules.  safe for eyeballs.
        http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ul3zgUfSgqY
        \_ Good on her.
        \_ That kicks ass.  It reminds me a little of when Jon Stewart
           called bullshit on CNN's crossfire and got it canceled.

6/28    where does Optimus' trailer go anyway?
        STARSCREAM!  ASSUME THE POSITION!
        AUTOBOTS, ROLL OUT
        MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE
        \_ I am Trollimus Prime, leader of the Motdobots
        TRANSFORMERS
        ROBOTS IN DISGUISE

6/28    People say good things about servlets-- shared connection pool,
        shared resources, not having to fork new proc, not having to
        interpret, etc. However, the chart below says otherwise. Is
        this consistent with what you guys have experienced? It appears
        that Servlet is the big loser here:
      http://www.dmst.aueb.gr/dds/pubs/conf/2002-SANE-DynCont/html/dyncont.html
        \_ Well, "servlets" is a pretty big category.  Tomcat is pretty sucky
           yes (it's 100% java, what do you expect?) but there are other
           servlet engines out there.  Also from looking that their
           methedology, it doesn't look like they increased the number of
           concurrent worker threads for tomcat.  My memory is tomcat is
           set to use some piddling number of threads in the default
           configuration, which would totally make those results make sense.
           \_ Yeah, tomcat is the reference implementation and is not
              taken seriously by businesses that have clue.
              \_ What do businesses that have a clue use? Jetty seems even
                 worse than tomcat. Resin has worked well for me in the
                 past. How about you?
                 \_ Resin works well and is inexpensive.
        \_ This paper is from 2002.  I would hesitate to apply its
           conclusions today.

6/28    Q: What are folks using these days for anti-spam measures?  I'm
        looking for something that integrates with my MTA (postfix) or my
        delivery agent (sieve).  Currently I'm using a crufty version of
        spamassassin wired into postfix via amavisd-new.  It's decent, but I
        don't want to be bothered with manually upgrading spamassassin or
        updating rulesets on a regular basis.  Anyone have any experience
        with DSPAM or Spamassassin plus some kind of automated rules
        updater?  Are
        there any new open-source anti-spam tools ftw? -dans
        \_ I just let Thunderbird do the job.
        \_ I'm doing almost exactly what you're doing, plus I scan the mail
           log in real time and permanently firewall block any IP that is
           reported as having a high spam score and doesn't have a reverse
           IP.  I've got about 8000 IPs blocked and get very little spam
           these days.  YMMV.

6/28    Need to manage a todo list in a heterogeneous environment?
        http://www.rememberthemilk.com