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| 2007/5/3-5 [Uncategorized] UID:46516 Activity:nil |
5/2 Agitators throw rocks at police. Police strike back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFdNkXJMH9A |
| 2007/5/3-5 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Politics/Domestic/911] UID:46517 Activity:nil |
5/2 Make and FPS map of your HS go to jail as a terrorist:
http://urltea.com/hbk (fortbendnow.com) |
| 2007/5/3 [Uncategorized] UID:46518 Activity:high 66%like:46525 |
5/3 How realistic feeling is the Fleshlight?
\_ It's pretty good. It's also pretty cheap on eBay, I got mine
slightly used for only $8.53
\_ Was it pre-lubed?
\_ Do you prefer slutty girls?
\_ Even better than the real thing(tm)
\_ How about comparing to the Real Doll? (Not that I can afford
it.) |
| 2007/5/3-7 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel, Reference/Religion] UID:46519 Activity:high |
5/3 So I watched "Frontline/American Experience" this week. The topic
was "The Mormons". I always knew the Mormons were a cult, but
they are even more cultish than I thought. I especially liked
the part about baptising dead Holocaust victims, which for
some reason Jewish people are not too happy about. I wonder why.
\_ Hi troll. This is the same PBS which refuses to show the special
they produced about fundamentalist Islam without islamic watchers.
-emarkp
\_ You know emarkp, this guy is just trying to bait you. Why
feed the troll?
\_ Are you accusing PBS of fabrications? Why am I not surprised.
\_ Biased reporting hardly requires fabrication.
\_ I don't think "biased reporting" is an issue. Either
the show is telling the truth about the origins
and customs of LDS or it isn't. Please give an example
of an instance in which you feel knowing "the other
side of the story" would put the LDS in a better light.
\_ No idea, I haven't seen the show. pp stated that
emarkp accused PBS of fabrications. That's
obviously not what emarkp said. Just pointing that
out. -!emarkp -pp
\_ *ASKED* if emarkp was accusing them of fabrications
\_ I would say the second sentence makes it a
pretty obvious accusation. Whatever.
\_ Do you still beat your wife? Why am I not
surprised.
\_ "Do you still beat your wife?" has the
a negative connotation no matter what
sentence follows it. There is no right
answer. That is not the case with the
question I asked.
\_ Ok, fine. You're beating your wife now?
Why am I not surprised.
\_ Hi, emarkp, what parts of the PBS report on Mormonism were
inaccurate or reported in a biased fashion? --erikred
\_ Haven't watched it yet, however I was pointing out that it's
censoring a producer unless that documentary is vetted by the
very religion it was documenting. We nutty Mormons weren't
treated the same. I have the eps on DVR and will be watching
them later. -emarkp
\_ Huh? What producer was censored?
\_ http://csua.org/u/ilv
\_ What do you mean "vetted by the very religion it
was documenting"? I don't see any reference to
this. The article says the PBS wasn't happy with
the documentary and it was not produced for
"Frontline". I am having trouble understanding
your point here.
\_ That was about the Nation of Islam:
MARTYN BURKE, PRODUCER, "ISLAM VS. ISLAMISTS": Yes,
well, I`ll give you one example. We were doing an
investigative report on how the Nation of Islam, the
so-called black Muslims, in Chicago were being
funded by the Saudi Arabian fundamentalists through
the Saudi embassy in Washington, D.C. And PBS,
through WETA, the flagship station in Washington,
appointed an adviser to oversee our efforts, and
that adviser was from the Nation of Islam.
Interviewed on the Glenn Beck TV show.
http://csua.org/u/ilz
-emarkp
\_ Corroboration?
\_ That is an interview with the guy himself.
-emarkp
\_ Yes, understood. Now, is there
corroboration from anyone else? Any further
details? How can we fact-check this?
\_ Call PBS if you don't believe Burke.
-emarkp
\_ I googled "Martyn Burke PBS" and
haven't found one article or story
that can't be traced back to
http://azcentral.com. This is dangerous
and shoddy journalism. I'd like to
see a piece on this done by at least
one other source, preferably with an
attempt to ask PBS about it.
\_ Because that's the paper that
broke the story. I think you
confuse lack of interest from
other news source with lack of
journalistic integrity on the
part of azcentral. What is it
about the azcentral story that
makes it shoddy? (Beyond your
personal feelings, of course).
If anything, that lack of
interest from MSM is rather
telling.
\_ They "broke" the story in
an opinion piece.
\_ What is it with the trolls today?
\_ I am willing to believe that a couple of Mormons NOT
REPRESENTING THE ENTIRE MORMON CHURCH butchered some nice folk
in the 1800s, but I certainly do not believe the Mormons
run around axeing people anymore. Much like I don't think
the Pope is going to sack Istanbul. dunno what Islam has
to with this.
\_ I don't think the massacre was very controversial. It was
more a case of where the church is NOW that was scary.
That, and the bullpucky that it was founded on, which even
the LDS seems to regard as suspect. The attitude of the LDS
officials was one of "whether our religion is a steaming pile
of crap or not, it seems to work for people". I can see some
beauty and logic in that, but then call it what it is, which
is *not* Christianity or really much to do with Christians.
It is that aspect which, as a Christian, offends me. Don't
go baptising dead Jews. They're Jewish. If they want to be
LDS then they will be. Mormons do a lot more proselytizing
and act much more "holier than thou" than any other religion
I have ever encountered.
\_ Once I'm dead, I'm dead. If some Mormon or anyone else wants
to perform some ritual, what do I care? I'm dead. Let me
spell that out for you: D-E-A-D. Ok? --some random Jew
\_ Don't get out much do ya?
\_ I don't think the baptism for the dead thing works the
way you think it does. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_for_the_dead#Holocaust_victim_controversy
\_ What do you mean? It works exactly like they described
it does. You are posthumously baptising people who
may not want that. In fact, most don't.
\_ I was refering to the fact that the church itself
doesn't randomly do names, they have to be
submitted, usually by a descendant. If a mormon
decendent of holocaust victims wants to be baptised
for them, what right do you have to say they can't?
Beside that, how are you claiming to know what the
dead want? Are you John Edward or something?
Furthermore, see the last quote of that section,
the dead are not compelled to do anything in Mormon
theology.
\_ So says the LDS, but when their records are
examined it seems that that they are lying.
As for knowing what the dead want, if they
wanted to be Mormon then they would have been.
\_ Sigh, re-read wikiepdia and try again.
\_ Wikipedia is not the authoritative source
for this. Besides, did you read the part
about how they continue to find the names
of people like Hitler in the records?
\_ Ok, site an authoritative source.
Also still on the records != continues to
show up.
\_ Ok, site an authoritative source. Also
what exactly are you suggesting the
church do about this? Have a big list
of names no one is allowed to submit?
Talk about an intractable problem. I
guess it doesn't matter, I've seen
your opinion below, so I'm done.
\_ For crying out loud, we're not digging up bodies and
dunking them in water. We're not "posthumously
baptising" anyone. It's baptism **for** the dead, and
is an ordinance offered to them, which the person now
dead can accept or reject. -emarkp
\_ The whole concept is retarded and if you baptise
my dead relative without my consent I will personally
go over there and kick your ass. I don't mean to
resort to violence, but can't the LDS understand
why some people might not like this?! What if I
started baptising dead LDS members like Joseph
Smith and Brigham Young into Islam and created
altars to Mohammed with their names on them and
had suicide bombers paying homage to Joseph
Smith before they blew themselves up. I imagine
some LDS members would not care, but some probably
would not like that, right - and would ask the
question: "What the heck does Joseph Smith have
to do with Islam?"
\_ I wouldn't care one bit. I assume you think all
religion is retarded, so I really don't give a rip
what you think about one particular practice.
-emarkp
\_ I posthumously induct emarkp's great granddad
into the Ku Klux Klan. We'll be sure to list
him on our rolls of honor. -tom
\_ No, I don't think all religion is retarded.
I think baptising non-believers is
retarded and I think that even though the
Catholic Church did it to the Native
Americans. At least they were alive to
protest it, though.
\_ Again, we're not exuming someone and
baptizing their dead bodies, and you're an
idiot to keep claiming it. -emarkp
\_ What's the religious difference? There's
no difference as far as I can tell. So
there's a proxy body to make things
a little bit more sanitary.
\_ Ha ha. So, say your brother (or some such)
converts and wants to do baptisim for one of
your dead realatives, are you going to kick his
butt?
\_ Yes, I would.
\_ All right, cleared that up. Later.
\_ I usually ignore all of the 'Mormon theology is based
on a bunch of magic plates in a hillside arguments', who cares,
faith is faith, but putting stock in asking dead people
(emarkp, they're DEAD, they can't respond) their opinion
is pretty funny!
\_ In the context of religion, you do realize there's a concept of
life after death, right? -emarkp
\_ In traditional christianity, i don't think you have
any contact with dead people. maybe you hang out with them
in heaven. you don't get to ask them if they'd like
to be baptized into another religion. not too familiar
with what islam does. i think the ancestor worship
religions just worship the ancestors, they dont actually
talk to them.
\_ We don't claim to have contact with dead people to perform
proxy baptisms. -emarkp
\_ What's the name of your great grandparents? I'm going
to induct them into the Hashish Assassin cult I'm
starting up in my basement.
\_ Which proxy do you use? Squid? |
| 2007/5/3-5 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:46520 Activity:nil |
5/3 After six years of "you are either with us or you are with
the terrorists" the Bush Administration discovers diplomacy.
Better late than never, I suppose:
http://www.csua.org/u/ilp |
| 2007/5/3 [Politics/Domestic] UID:46521 Activity:nil |
5/3 Any recommended budget motherboard that can support a quad core
Core 2 and has decent linux support? |
| 2007/5/3-7 [Uncategorized] UID:46522 Activity:nil |
5/3 Litwack is retiring. You think he'll donate that shelf full of
prepared lectures to someone? Generations of future History 7B
students need their sleep! |
| 2007/5/3-7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:46523 Activity:high |
5/3 Cal's newest pole vaulter, Allison Stokke.
link:tinyurl.com/23prtm
\_ http://www.ebonyincrediblepass.com/t1/thumbs/05/b1.jpg
\_ Not work safe. Big black boobs.
\_ NOT relevant to Allison.
\_ http://i14.tinypic.com/5ym0aj4.jpg
\_ NOT relevant to Allison. Huge Barbie boobs.
\_ yer fu is weak
http://www.dyestat.com/3us/6out/NikeOutdoorNats/album-vic-jumps-g
pages/154GM8W1068.htm
\_ Here's another pic. She's really cute, too!
http://www.dyestat.com/3us/college/choices07/pix/Stokke.jpg
\_ Man is she fine. I've always been a fan of track. At least I've
been meaning to always be a fan of track.
\_ http://youtube.com/watch?v=zasPlQYZEHw
\_ Wow, I would ungay so fast for her. Berkeley should
feature her in their recruitment lit.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=184340207
http://urltea.com/hj6 (profile.myspace.com)
\_ ObVaultMyPoleJoke
\_ how much are season trach tickets?
\_ how much are season track tickets?
\_ That is one beautiful woman, but there are many as good-looking
on TV. What's all the fuss?
\_ They don't go to CAL, DUMBASS.
\_ Plus, since her favorite movie is LOTR, maybe a CSUA geek
has a shot if she happens to be in his lecture or in
line in front of him at Strada.
\_ If this mysterious CSUAer saw her in line at Strada he'd
do what? "Hi, I saw on the motd that you're a LOTR fan!
Do you want to join my D&D game at the dorms? We always
have room for hot chicks!"
\_ "Hi. I'm <CSUA nerd>. Can I buy you a coffee?"
\_ "Hi, you're hot. Can I buy you a coconut juice?
Hopefully you will reciprocate with eventual sex."
\_ Hi, I'm <CSUA nerd>. Can I buy you a new house?
.com made it good to be a nerd ...
\_ No one standing in line at Strada ever made a dime
of dotcom money.
\_ Well, no actually. But you are probably
pretty close to correct.
\_ Plus most of them are airhead bimbos; this is a smart
athlete.
\_ OK, so she's perfect 10 in two categories, how's her
personality?
\_ This is the CSUA. Breathing is usually all that's
required and I think she's got that covered.
\_ You need to breathe a lot to pole vault.
\_ So, you're only gay due to lack of hot chicks at Berkeley? |
| 2007/5/3-7 [Politics/Domestic/Abortion, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:46524 Activity:moderate |
5/3 Anyone watch the Republican debate? Only Ron Paul sounds like a real
conservative (besides the debatable abortion stuff). The rest just
toe the standard R line. I never heard of him before. He seems like
one of the few who actually stands by clear principles, even if I
don't agree with them all.
\_ It's interesting that he hasn't gotten anywhere near as much\
attention as Kucinich for being the only other guy running who
\_ It's interesting that he hasn't gotten anywhere near as much
attention as Kucinich for being the only other guy running who
voted against the Iraq war, against the Patriot Act, and against
suspension of habeus corpus. I'm actually planning to register
as a republican for the first and last time in my life to vote
for Paul in the primary, just to send a message to the fucks
who run both parties that it's time for both of them to start
running pro-freedom candidates.
\_ Not terribly interesting. Kucinich = far left. RP = Republican.
\_ http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections08/story/0,,2072835,00.html
\_ Does not mention RP. I agree the others didn't look so hot,
especially McCain, although Giuliani was bland enough.
especially McCain. Brownback, Giuliani, and Huckabee were bland
enough. I thought it was funny when one of them stumbled all
over himself to pander to the Jews ("by the way a threat to
Israel's existence is a threat to the existence of the US!")
\_ Because we know "The Jews" are all evil clones who all have
the exact same beliefs. But I'm sure it's ok for you to say
that because you "have a Jewish friend".
\_ What? ok replace it with "Jews"
\_ That's not pandering to Jews, that's pandering to Christian
righties.
\_ I didn't watch it (is it on youtube or something?) but I thought
this littlegreenfootballs poll of who won was interesting.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/lgf-poll.php
(You may need to use the pull down menu to get the right poll.)
\_ I don't know about youtube but you can watch it at msnbc.
(Have to wade through the mess to find the links... I watched
it in three pieces.) Interestingly I saw a poll on I think
msnbc that had Ron Paul leading.
\_ "Gosh, I love America." --Mitt Reagan^H^H^H^H^H^HRomney
\_ yep this guy came off like a total douchebag
\_ Not as much as Chris Matthews. What a moron. |
| 2007/5/3-5 [Uncategorized] UID:46525 Activity:nil 66%like:46518 |
5/3 How romantic feeling is the Fleshlight?
\_ It's pretty good. It's also pretty cheap on eBay, I got mine
slightly used for only $8.53
\_ Was it pre-lubed?
\_ Do you prefer slutty girls?
\_ Even better than the real thing(tm)
\_ How about comparing to the Real Doll? (Not that I can afford
it.) |