Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2007:April:22 Sunday <Saturday, Monday>
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2007/4/22-25 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:46408 Activity:kinda low
4/21    Cho bought ammo clips on eBay. His user name was Blazers5505@hotmail.com
        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18246522
        http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=Blazers5505
        http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140098812797
        \_ And... ? http://www.gunbroker.com http://www.auctionarms.com provide far
           better auction houses for gun stuff. Besides he could have
           bought some Schrer 33 round mags for the Glock 18 for $28
           from http://www.topglock.com   I have some stamped LE/Military use only
           \_ Is it legal to mail order stuff like this in CA? Gun laws are
              confusing. Is there some place with ALL of the issues laid out
              clearly for each state?
              \_ You can't legally buy (or import) magazines with greater
                 than a ten-round capacity in California.  Although the federal
                 ban expired, California has its own ban.  Most of the
                 magazines stamped for law enforcement or military use only
                 were manufactured during the federal ban.  The California DOJ
                 has a section on firearms law on its web site that is
                 reasonably useful.  The CRPA puts out a booklet on the new
                 firearms laws for the state every year.  If you don't mind
                 the annoyingly low reading level, there's a book called "How
                 to Own a Gun and Stay out of Jail: California Edition" by
                 John Machtinger that gets updated every year that spells out
                 what the intersection of state and federal laws means for
                 California residents (though it doesn't attempt to cover
                 local ordinances, such as Berekeley's ban on rifles that
                 local ordinances, such as Berkeley's ban on rifles that
                 accept detachable magazines).          --alawrenc
                 \_ Thanks. I'll have to read through this stuff...
                    http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms
                    \_ Incidentally, one of the consequences of California's
                       ban on full capacity magazines has been that it makes
                       it illegal for servicemen to supplement their
                       equipment before deploying overseas from a base in
                       California.  It's routine for soldiers to buy extra
                       gear to supplement what they're issued, including
                       magazines for their rifles and sidearms.  California's
                       full capacity magazine ban only makes an exemption for
                       law enforcement, not for active duty military personnel.
                                                        --alawrenc
2007/4/22-25 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Reference/Military] UID:46409 Activity:nil
4/21    the Gun debate will be settled in the SCOTUS
        http://www.opinionjournal.com/weekend/hottopic/?id=110009971
        \_ The Supreme Court will only decide on what they think the
           comma means; they won't decide on whether it's a good idea or
           not.  -tom
        \_ ^will^may^ - Review by the USSC is discretionary. The above
           is also somewhat inaccurate b/c a split existed before the
           D.C. Cir. weighed in - the 9th and 5th have had opposing
           views for several years. Also the D.C. Cir.'s opinion only
           address Congressional regulation not State regulation. It
           is conceivable that different rights/rules apply (e.g. 7th
           amend.)
2007/4/22-25 [Reference/Military, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:46410 Activity:moderate
4/22    Blue Angle crashed, setting homes and vehicles on fire.
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070422/ap_on_re_us/blue_angel_crash
        Glad that it didn't crash in SF.  What's the point of maintaining an
        expensive team and performing these stunts in populated areas
        endangering people on the ground?
        \_ http://csua.com/?entry=45491
           Recruitment, pride, morale, feeling of security, and tradition.
           Similar to why the Red army of 1 million marching down
           Red Square.
        \_ Jingoism.
           \_ As opposed to the full military? I'm glad you think so.
              With citizens like these, who needs enemies?
        \_ The mission of the Blue Angels is to serve as a recruiting tool.
           Every time they put on a show, there are some people in the crowd
           who think "wow, I want to be a fighter pilot".  That's the point.
           \_ And here I thought that the mission of the Blue Angels was a
              yearly "show of force" to any punk that might be getting ideas.
           \_ Is it cost-effective?  How many actually join the air-force
              successfully because of Blue Angel?  Thanks.
              \_ I don't know and am not going to hazard a guess.  This is
                 their mission, which they're quite open about (it's right
                 there on their web site).  I was merely answering the question,
                 not the implied criticism.  By the way, the Blue Angels are
                 part of the Navy, not the Air Force.
        \_ You all forgot the part where you say, "RIP" for the dead Blue
           Angel and a moment of thought for the 8 people injured on the
           ground before you dove in to attacking the wasteful recruiting
           policies of the BUSHCO military/industrial complex/HALLIBURTON!
           \_ Blue Angels started under a Democrat admin, and continued
              with the full support of many Demo admins. The last Navy man
              in office was Carter.
              \_ We all knew that. If the Republicans started it, it would
                 have been called the Red Angels.
              \_ Don't tell *me* that.  Tell it to the we-hate-the-blue-angels
                 they're-such-a-waste types above.  -RIP guy
2007/4/22 [Uncategorized] UID:46411 Activity:nil
4/22    "NYC pledges 1 million new trees by 2017"
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070422/ap_on_re_us/green_nyc
2007/4/22-25 [Uncategorized] UID:46412 Activity:nil
4/22    motd boob^H^H^H^Hplumper guy sunday special
        http://www.onemodelplace.com/member.cfm?ID=299456
        \_ NSFW, picture of a woman with huge boobs.
2007/4/22-25 [Transportation/Car/RoadHogs] UID:46413 Activity:nil
4/22    "NYC pledges 1 million new trees by 2017"
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070422/ap_on_re_us/green_nyc
        In other news, Californians pledge 1 million new gas-guzzling SUVs and
        luxury sedans to counter the trees' effect.
2007/4/22-2008/4/21 [Uncategorized] UID:46414 Activity:nil
04/22   We're working on mead at the moment; mail delivery will be delayed a
        bit, but will hopefully be faster as a result.  Alternately, the
        mail queue may explode again.  Nothing like living on the edge.
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