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2007/2/28-3/3 [Uncategorized] UID:45836 Activity:nil
2/27    I attended my first Chinese wedding and had the most amazing
        delicasy in my entire life: crunchy pig skin. I probably ate
        over 1/2 of it at the table. Does anyone know where I can buy
        more crunchy pig skin? 99 Ranch doesn't seem to sell them.
        \_ Not frog related but you should really take a look at
           the works of Anthony Bourdain. He has a few books and
           television shows that explores cuisines and cultures from
           around the world with a "try everything once" attitude.
           It's a great read (or watch) for those sick of thinking
           that dry chicken breast represents the pinnacle of good food.
        \_ try a mexican store..
2007/2/28-3/2 [Uncategorized] UID:45837 Activity:nil
2/28    Apropos of nothing, what is the geek fascination with H.P.Lovecraft?
        \_ I've never understood it.  Ask nweaver.
        \_ Cthulhu is so cute and cuddly:
           http://www.toyvault.com/cthulhu/plush_cthulhu.html
2007/2/28 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:45838 Activity:high
2/28    Quick quiz:  Which kills more Americans?
        A) Insurgents in Iraq attacking US soldiers
        B) Illegal Aliens in the US committing murder
        C) Wankers on the motd and other media sources creating overtly
           slanted, self-serving shill quizzes to make their points using
           dishonest and bad rhetorical techniques.
        http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/homeland.php?id=737771
        \_ It depends on what your definition of "more" is.
           We've had this discussion before.  You're very clearly
           an idiot.
        \_ Our laws governing automotive safety are as every bit as
           retarded as our foreign policy in the Middle East. Both
           need our attention and some solution. What makes Iraq
           particularly important is that it's putting an enormous
           strain on our resources (economically and militarily).
        \_ You're right, if we moved every single soldier from Iraq,
           Japan, Korea, Germany and Cuba to the Mexican border,
           we might stop all illegal immigration.  Kill.
           \_ That wasn't something I was suggesting. Try again. -op
              \_ It's about a sensical as your quiz. -!pp
                 \_ Or not. -op
        \_ Hey!  Thanks to the asshole who chnaged my post. choice B) is
           supposed to be Illegal Aliens committing murder.
        \_ I like how when lefties here don't like facts, they hide them.
2007/2/28-3/4 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity] UID:45839 Activity:moderate
2/28    The Iraq War: a bargain at double the price:
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/2xf3kw
        \_ You can stop reading at "Dominated by Social Security and health
           care, the federal budget..."
           Over 50% of the federal budget is now military.   -tom
           \- if you are accruing liabilities, then you arent really capped
              at 100% so it is better to talk number of dollars than
              percentages. so he is right the total cost of servicing
              things like the social security obligations and medicare
              obligations are larger than the military. the numbers vary
              based on assumtions and how many years out to but for medicare
              and soc security you start seeing numbers like 45-75 trillion
              dollars. so the entitlement number seem smaller because we're
              not actually paying them but putting in IOUs. we cant pay
              the military with IOUs, let alone haliburton. but i'm not
              defending this dood's accounting of course. "how many billion
              dollars would you be willing to burn to reclaim the loss
              of american credibility" etc. it's of course equally bogus
              of american credibility" etc. if's of course equally bogus
              on only focus on econ costs.
              of american credibility" etc. it's of course bogus to only
              focus on econ costs.
              \_ You need to consider the net present value of all this
                 spending. And we are certainly paying Halliburton with
                 IOUs, they are called treasury bonds.
                 \_ re: NPV ... yes obviously ... that's what is being done.
                    give me a little credit [no pun intended]. there are a
                    lot of other actuarial and economic assumptions in there
                    as well ... that's the tricky part, not mechnically coming
                    up with the NPV ... that's just arithmetic.
                    re: halliburton ... no, we are PAYING halliburton with
                    cash. we are FINANCING it with borrowing. when you buy a
                    house, you are not paying the seller with a mortgage.--psb
                    \- see e.g.
        http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_bartlett/bartlett200504280951.asp
        http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070211/news_lz1e11riedl.html
                [see in particular the 3rd paragraph in the SD UT article]
                    \_ i thought of a good analogy: say you are going to
                       MIT and paying for it though student loans. the mit
                       tuition is $33k/yr now. now say your are paying
                       $1000/mo on rent and $1000/mo on food and entertainment.
                       $1000/mo rent and $1000/mo for food and entertainment.
                       It is not accurate to say "50% of my expenses is rent".
                       Really you are accruing close to $3k/mo in liabilities.
                       So yes, it is fair to say "your budget is dominated by
                       tuition expenses" ... even if you are only say paying
                       $100/mo toward your student loans. --psb
                       It really is not accurate to say "50% of my expenses is
                       rent". Really you are accruing close to $3k/mo in
                       liabilities. So yes, it is fair to say "your budget is
                       dominated by tuition expenses" ... even if you are only
                       say paying $100/mo toward your student loans. --psb
                       \_ The future liabilities of our military posture
                          surely outpace those of social security, though
                          they may be more difficult to project.  -tom
                          \_ medicare liability is more than 2x soc sec
                             obligations. it's hard to take your judgement
                             obligation. it's hard to take your judgement
                             calls seriously when you seem to miss a basic
                             fact like that. you can look for
                             google(kansas city federal reserve bank, social
                             security, medicare) for a research report on this
                             from 2006. that bartlett fellow has written a
                             bunch on this too. there is also an excellent
                             article in the nyrb ... i think i mentioned that
                             earlier in the motd or wall archive.
                             \_ PSB > TOM
                                http://tinyurl.com/yrtors (60 Minutes)
2007/2/28-3/2 [Health/Disease/General] UID:45840 Activity:moderate
2/28    Quick quiz:  Which kills more Americans?
        A) Insurgents in Iraq attacking US soldiers
        B) Bungee jumping
        C) Bees
        D) STDs
        E) African-Americans committing murder
        F) Obesity
            \_ It's not much of a stretch to include this under automobile
               related deaths.
        G) Trolls
 ++++++ H) Illegal aliens in the US committing murder ++++++
        I) Space aliens
        J) Cthulhu
        K) Spontaneous Human Combustion
        L) Automobile Accidents
        M) Smoking
        N) Burning
        O) Cancer
        P) Old Age
        Q) Living
********R) My Ginormous Herpes Infested Penis***********************************
        S) Bar fights and the subsequent shootouts.
        T) Abortion
        U) Space Monkeys
        V) Squirrels
        X) Mind numbing Boredom
        \_ The answers: (2004)  (of 2.4M US deaths)
                1)  Heart disease               652k
                2)  Cancer                      553k
                3)  Strokes                     150k
                4)  Lung disease                122k
                5)  Accidents                   112k
                6)  Diabetes                     73k
                7)  Alzheimers                   66k
                8)  Flu + Pneumonia              60k
                9)  Kidney disease               42k
               10)  Septicemia                   33k
           \_ How dare you bring facts to the MOTD!!??
        \_ Our laws governing automotive safety are as every bit as
           retarded as our foreign policy in the Middle East. Both
           need our attention and some solution. What makes Iraq
           particularly important is that it's putting an enormous
           strain on our resources (economically and militarily).
        \_ You're right, if we moved every single soldier from Iraq,
           Japan, Korea, Germany and Cuba to the Mexican border,
           we might stop all illegal immigration.  Kill.
           \_ That wasn't something I was suggesting. Try again. -op
              \_ It's about a sensical as your quiz. -!pp
                 \_ Or not. -op
                    \_ Precisely: your quiz was nonsense. -pp
        \_ Hey!  Thanks to the asshole who chnaged my post. choice B) is
           supposed to be Illegal Aliens committing murder.
        \_ I like how when lefties here don't like facts, they hide them.
           \_ I don't like the fact that Cancer kills people???
2007/2/28 [Uncategorized] UID:45841 Activity:high
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2007/2/28-3/3 [Finance/Investment] UID:45844 Activity:low
3/1     I lost some money in currency trading last year (about $1000).
        How do you exactly write it off for tax purposes?
        \_ Gambling loss. Did you have a receipt or any written documentation
           to back you up in case of an audit?
           \_ I have statements, and I have the statement that lists the
              initial deposit as well as the final withdraw amount
              (less). Is this sufficient? I thought this category is the
              same as stock-market loss instead of gambling loss? ok thx.
        \_ I think that would be a capitol loss and can only be used to offset
           capitol gains, but you can "save" it until you have some cap gains
           to offset.
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