Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2007:January:26 Friday <Thursday, Saturday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2007/1/26-2/22 [Uncategorized] UID:45590 Activity:nil
1/26    Soda is open for business.  Sorry for the huge inconvenience.
        -- minghay
        \_ You rock. Thanks minghay!
           \_ Just so that everyone knows, logins are working, but websites
              are still down.  We hope to have the websites back up and running
              within the week.
              -- minghay
2007/1/26-2008/4/21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:45591 Activity:nil
01/25   More bad stuff, and more downtime.  Also, notionally good stuff
        that might be inconvenient in the short term.  Apache will be back
        soon, and /csua will similarly be repopulated soon.  Meanwhile,
        feel free to mail root@ with stuff that's missing and we'll look
        into it.  For a longer discussion, including information about
        changes to email, see /csua/soda-changes.2007.01
2007/1/26-30 [Uncategorized] UID:45592 Activity:nil
1/26    ran mb2md -s /mnt/oldmail/$USER -d /var/mail/$USER
        pine doesnt work still..
        where is jove?:
        \_ Ok, I've installed jove.  Please let me know if it doesn't
           work for you.  --mconst
2007/1/26-2/6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:45593 Activity:nil
1/26    Since no one seems to read the motd.official:
        please see /csua/soda-changes.2007.01
        before asking dumb questions    -not root
2007/1/26-30 [Uncategorized] UID:45594 Activity:nil
1/26    Thanks guys.
        But my inbox doesn't seem to be accessable...
        \_ More thanks.
2007/1/26-27 [Computer/SW] UID:45595 Activity:kinda low
1/26    Where is the wall.log file for wallall?
        \_ Speaking of which, ETA for wallall?
           \_ Ok, it's installed.  Please let me know if anything goes
              wrong.  --mconst
2007/1/26-2/1 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:45596 Activity:kinda low
1/26    Test 123 123. Yay it works. Time to move all the files out.
        Time to move out for good. Good bye soda. You've been good to
        me for the past 15 years.
        \_ Same here.  You've been good to me for about 11.5 years and not
           so good for 1 year.
           \_ Just curious... how much did you pay for the service?  I got
              the alum special rate.
              \_ Not everyone on here is a freeloader.
                 \_ You're right.  The people who got jobs through me *only*
                    because of soda being here, my technical postings and
                    past hardware donations have no value.  I've still paid
                    nothing for the service.  What have *you* done for soda?
                    \_ I've donated $$$.
                       \_ So?  This is a community and a community service.
                          Your $50 doesn't entitle you to a whole lot of
                          service.  Go talk to any hosting provider and see
                          what they'll charge you for a lot less than soda
                          \_ I think you missed the point here. I said
                             "Not everyone on here is a freeloader." The
                             implication was that the "alumni special
                             rate" is free. For many of us, the "alumni
                             special rate" was not free, whether it be
                             in dollars, time, or whathaveyou.
                             \_ The 'price' paid by almost every soda user is
                                near zero over time.  I've had a soda account
                                for 18 years.  In that time I've helped with
                                hardware donations (a long time ago), got at
                                least 1 person a job they still have 2-3 years
                                later, and provided technical advice several
                                times.  During that time soda has been down a
                                few times for a total of a few months.  Big
                                deal.  The alumni special rate is "I help you
                                when I can, you do your job to keep the host
                                up so I can be here".  It's a fair trade.  The
                                moment the box goes down it hurts the ugrads
                                more than it hurts the alumni.  Unless you're
                                one of the itty bitty tiny number of people
                                who has been physically there helping to
                                rebuild soda and carefully guiding the org
                                through these dark and woeful times </sarcasm>
                                you have little to bitch about.
           \_ I would argue that the one year of 'badness' is due to VP
              hozage. To misquote Lennon: All we are saying is give
              darch a chance.
              \_ Uh, didnt "we" give him +3 weeks?
                 As to the freeloading comments: there are plenty of people
                 here to have already "served."  I think they are entitled
                 to comment.  And the comments about they are not being
                 paid is silly.  If you volunteer, you are on the hook.
                 Nobody is forcing you to volunteer, but if you accept the
                 job, you shouldn't be a flake.  Additionally, some of
                 the people in charge now are fools, like putting up a
                 message like "W00T" when the web server came back rather
                 than something informative.
                 \_ 3+ weeks?  Have you ever stepped into someone else's mess
                    and had to clean it up?  3 weeks is nothing.  I agree that
                    more information would have been good though.  I didn't
                    even know anyone was working on it and assumed it was not
                    coming back.
                    \_ Not to mention that these were 3 weeks, DURING THE
                       HOLIDAY, alone, while entirely refactoring the machine
                       room, fixing someone else's mess, and dealing with the
                       department -- also on holiday (and you know how gov't
                       institutions run...). Many all-nighters were pulled.
                       Respect darch's authori-tay! --michener
                    \- heh: [n.b. i am laughing at hillary, not with]:
                       \_ What did you expect?  This is business as usual
  \_ Commander-In-Chief Hillary Rodham Clinton. Kind of has a nice ring to it.
     \_ The first thing she'd do is send troops somewhere to show everyone
        she can be "as tough as any man, no wait, tougher!  I'll send twice
        as many!"
                       \_ Commander-In-Chief Hillary Rodham Clinton. Kind of
                          has a nice ring to it.
                         \_ The first thing she'd do is send troops somewhere
                            to show everyone she can be "as tough as any man,
                            no wait, tougher!  I'll send twice as many!"
2007/1/26-30 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:45597 Activity:nil
1/26    Kickass guys.
        One thing, /csua/bin/mtd needs to be suid motd
        \_ So it does.  Fixed. -- darch
2007/1/26-30 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:45598 Activity:nil
1/26    Thanks root people!
        \_ Many thanks!
2007/1/26-2/1 [Computer/SW/Mail] UID:45599 Activity:nil
1/26    Pine maildir patch, or root cookie. Prefer former. --linxu
        \_ Use mutt. ;)  Oh, alright.. it looks like the pine that's
           installed already has the patch.  Is there something it's
           failing to do? -- darch
           \_ Handle maildir by default?  At least some people will
              need instructions on how to use pine on new-soda.
            \_ Yes.  Please help.
             \_ Added instructions to /csua/soda-changes.2007.01.  Short
                version:  Set inbox-path to "/var/mail/$USER". -- darch
              \_ Update:  In light of the fact that there exist users who
                 don't read motd, /etc/pine.conf has been changed to make
                 this work for everyone.
2007/1/26-2/1 [Computer/SW/WWW/Server] UID:45600 Activity:nil
1/26    Trying to connect to port 993 using SSL, in Thunderbird with no luck.
        \_ I can replicate this, but will have to tcpdump to figure out what
           the actual problem is.  Try <DEAD><DEAD> (which hostname
           I'll have to gen a cert for at some point).  -- darch
           \_ other than the cert not being in my CA list, SSL IMAP
              on mail.csua seems to work.  Yay!  Good job, darch!
              \_ what do you use for your imap path?  I haven't been able
                 to get file in my /var/spool/mail/{user} directory show up?
2007/1/26-2/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:45601 Activity:nil
1/26    Could someone please install curl?
        apt-get install curl
        \_ Done.  --mconst
           \_ mconst rules
              \_ mconst > darch, politburo
                 \_ larry ellison > god > mconst > unix god > darch, politburo
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