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2006/12/21-23 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:45483 Activity:high
12/21   Sandy Berger--oops
  http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/12/21/ap/politics/mainD8M5AV780.shtml
        \_ Damn those evil Democrats, you can't trust them! They say they'd
           do something and the next minute they're having oral sex with
           the interns! Vote for righteous Republicans and support our
           glorious War in Iraq! We are good and spread freedom YA BABY!
           \_ I know it is slow aroudn here but a four line troll should
              provide more entertainment than this.  What I don't understand,
              Young Troll, is why you think it's ok for *anyone* to steal
              and destroy national security documents?  Clean your own house
              before looking at your neighbors'.
        \_ Any reports/rumors on what the stolen documents said?
           \_ A good guess is something that makes Clinton look bad.
        \_ Hang 'em -Nader voter.
2006/12/21-23 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration, Industry/Jobs] UID:45484 Activity:nil
12/21   I guess those *aren't* jobs Americans won't do:
  http://nebraska.statepaper.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/12/20/4589a66d00bd4
        \_ Yes, just like there's a purported shortage of engineers, PhDs, etc.
2006/12/21-28 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iran, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:45485 Activity:high
12/21   Would you support selling Israel down the river if that helped solve
        the Iran and Iraq problems?
        \_ there are no problem in Iran.  It's like trying to prevent your
           teenage daughter from having sex.  You just have to accept the
           reality.
        \_ In this fantasy world, would I get a pony too?
        \_ No, I don't think I'd trade a low-intensity conflict for a full
           scale middle-east war + attempted re-enactment of the holocaust.
           How about you?
           \- just out of curiosity, who would go to "full scale war"
              against a nuclear israel? --psb
              \_ nuclear "wipe Israel off the map" Iran?
                 \- dont be silly. pak and india arent going to exchange
                    nukes, neither are iran and israel. what you should be
                    much more concerned about is the pakistani state falling
                    apart. i think taiwan may have more to fear from china
                    than israel does from iran.
                    \_ But when Iran does do what it's been promising to
                       do, I'm sure I'll hear a lot of, "There's no way
                       we could have seen THAT coming..."
                       \- yeah and communism still hasnt been discredited ...
                          it'll happen some day.
                    \_ you have no idea what are you talking about.  If
                       Israel/Iran relationship is like mainland China and
                       and Taiwan, the world will be a much better place.
                       \- i am not comparing the relationship between,
                          i am comparing "threat probabilities". the dynamics
                          between who will win the rose bowl has nothing
                          to do with will it rain tomorrow, but you certainly
                          can say "it is more likely it will rain tomorrow
                          than UMich will win the rosebowl".
                          \_ that is exactly what I am saying.  The "threat
                             probabilities" between mainland China and Taiwan
                             is next to zero unless Taiwan do something really
                             stupid.
        \_ Appeasement of enemies only emboldens them. And how quickly
           you forget who originally supplied them with arms (hint : Not the
           U.S.)
           \_ Who?
           \_ The world is a lot more complicated than your little throw away
              one liner. Who are our "enemies" and who determines that? Do you
              have an "enemies" list and how can I get on it? Or off of it,
              for that matter, since it appears from your statement that
              there is no way.
        \_ [Discussion of Israel censored and restored.]
2006/12/21-23 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:45486 Activity:nil 54%like:45480
12/19   Firefox 1.5.0.9 and 2.0.0.1 are out.
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