Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2006:November:30 Thursday <Wednesday, Friday>
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2006/11/30-12/8 [Transportation/Car, Transportation/Car/RoadHogs] UID:45395 Activity:nil
11/30   http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/11/30/gas_prices.reut/index.html
        Americans drive less for first time in 25 years. "Price matters."
2006/11/30-12/12 [Industry/Jobs] UID:45396 Activity:nil
11/30   Anyone have any experience with http://panix.com?
        \_ No direct experience, but they're one of the really old school mom
           & pop ISP shops.  They're probably pretty good if you want
           no-frills services that just work.  Probably less good if you want
           a 24-7 NOC. :) -dans
2006/11/30-12/12 [Finance/Investment] UID:45397 Activity:nil
11/30   I'm willing to wager $100 that Soda will be up for another 3 months
        or less before it is completely down for at least 3 days again.
        \_ I'm willing to bet it will be within 3 weeks.
           \- I'm willing to bet it will be down for months this time around.
              and most services will be fucked forever. -linxu
        \_ it's too bad there isn't a simple http://tradesports.com thing to handle
           futures trading on something like this.  i'd really be interested
           in one with a few more issues that big sites are too chickenshit
           to host, like:  Enter recession (two consec quarters neg GDP) by
           Q207, or NASDAQ below 2,200 by Feb 28, 2007.
           2Q07, or NASDAQ below 2,200 by Feb 28, 2007.
2006/11/30-12/8 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:45398 Activity:nil
11/30   hey dudes, var/mail is full and im getting weird NFS
        locking errors when trying to delete a file.
2006/11/30-12/8 [Computer/SW/Editors/Vi, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:45399 Activity:nil
11/30   What's going on since about 7:45am?  Mail is no longer being
        received.  There is a ~/Mail/backup.lock file that keep being
        recreated even after I keep deleting it.  And, until right now,
        my session would freeze up upon trying to vi a file.  Disabling
        procmail by removing the .forward file didn't seem to help fix
        the lockfile issue, as I thought that was relating to procmail.
        \_ What's REALLY wrong is no one (except for jvarga and other
           really busy alumni) is stepping in to do the admin work.
           Most alumni have grown up and have other things to do,
           soda UNIX awareness is decreasing, active csua membership
           has been dwindling for many years, and the students
           don't have need to learn or admin esoteric UNIX boxes.
           Until this trend reverses, admin-less soda will continue
           to be hacked, defaced, and eventually die out. No one like
           bad news but this is reality we have to face.
           \_ whine whine whine, anyway I don't think politburo/root
              is going to give root to any random alumni who shows
              up at 343 Soda to "help out", are they?  If so,
              sign me up!
           \_ dude, does anyone even use soda for anything important???
              when mail goes down for DAYS and we bounce mail, who the
              hell is dumb enough to use soda for anything? no one uses
              soda anyway nowadays. just kill soda already. jvarga,
              you did good, man. -linxu
              \_ I still use soda. I use it to share my mp3 and my
                 private pictures of my geeky self, like you.
                 BTW I love your site and your pictures and mp3.
                 Could you please put some warez while you're at it?
                 http://csua.berkeley.edu/~linxu
                 \_ you wanna download the mp3s first ? ;)
                    anyway, what I used to use soda for pre-yet-another
                    rooting-but-this-time-2-weeks-until-it's-fixed. now
                    i don't use it, except to whine on motd. - linxu
        \_ /var/mail is full!!
           \_ Fixed.  2050 inactive accounts now bounce mail rather than sit
              and collect spam.  If you have any CSUA friends who never got
              their account reactivated back in May, let em know that their
              account may disappear in a few months.  - jvarga
              \_ The lockfile issue seems to still exist.
                 \_ Unfortunately I don't have time to debug this. - jvarga
2006/11/30-12/8 [Computer/Companies/Google] UID:45400 Activity:nil
11/29   http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/10/02/8387489
        Google chaos by design? One time hit?
2006/11/30-12/8 [Computer/Companies/Yahoo, Industry/Startup] UID:45401 Activity:nil
11/29   http://www.searchenginejournal.com/?p=4015
        Yahoo memo leak. 20% to be laid off.
        \_ It's not the 20% getting laid off that worries me about Yahoo!.
           It's that this senior VP sounds like a moron.
           \_ firing 20 percent is an excellent way to motivate the
              remaining 80!
2006/11/30-12/8 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:45402 Activity:nil
11/29   Pathetic Google engineers:
        http://valleywag.com/tech/revisit/man-in-google-lap-pool-217775.php
        http://www.valleywag.com/tech/dating/another-chance-to-crash-googles-holiday-party-217736.php
Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2006:November:30 Thursday <Wednesday, Friday>