11/25 Is the problem with bringing up soda one of lack of time or lack of
knowledge? There's no way a single workstation should go down for a
month every time it is hacked. I realize that some 'other work' is
also being done, but for goodness sake! Do the root types need
technical help?
\_ I've said this before and I will say it again. The problem is that
kids today do not have the enthusiasm nor the need to learn UNIX
systems. They are happy coding Java using IntelliJ on their XP
and the real hard core kids use Cygwin. Furthermore they don't
really have a need for a Soda account. They have gmail, YM, and
their Xbox. The days of POP&berkeley.edu mail, irc, nwrite, talk,
wall, motd, and whatever on UNIX is over. Get on with it old man.
\_ I give you the finger.
\_ Are you an old man?
\_ sniff, too true
\_ Are you an old man?
\_ A few years ago someone on motd predicted the demise of csua+unix.
I guess that days is here. With superior Web 2.0 services out
there, there's no need for a soda account anymore. Soda is history.
\_ But then, there's MOTD. I agree that undergrads don't see or
read it, but it's an important community, regardless of the
technology it uses. Can you think of a way of preserving the
users while getting rid of the underlying platform? I can't.
\_ motd started to die out ever since paolo disabled 'cat motd'
for new .logins. As more alumni leave and no new users using
it, it was on the path of its demise. The outcome of killing
'cat motd' for new users is not really unexpected you know?
\_ Neither is it irreversible. To Politburo members who
still read MOTD: How about it?
\_ To the person above (pp), here's a hint: the
intersection of Politburo members and people who still
read motd is zero. Why don't you mail politburo@csua
directly? Start by explaining what motd is.
\_ Have you ever heard of the BLOG??? Or Yahoo groups?
I've heard that they're pretty popular these days. Oh my,
you sound like you're still living in the stone age of
computing. Dude, get on with the program old man. Social
security is dead and so is UNIX.
\_ Blogs and Yahoo! groups are for technically illiterate
14 year olds. Please don't suggest that these are
viable alternatives.
\_ Why not?
\_ The biggest reason why not is that some of us use
soda to do a lot more than motd. Soda is a place where
I can find everything I am looking for in one place
and there is a sense of community, too. I have never
maintained a blog, I don't read other blogs (except
when redirected to one) and I don't plan on it. If I
was a 14 year old girl I might. Are you one of those
morons who uses text-messaging, ringtones, and other
crap, too?
\_ But blogs are great to meet 14 year old girls.
\_ Again, you're confusing technology with community. The
advancement of data input and display technology is not
lost on me, but it's irrelevant. A blog talkback won't
give you the same level of discussion with a target
audience like CSUA members. I would love to hear of good
examples that prove otherwise.
\_ "Community", ha ha ha ha. Such a 20th century idea.
Are you an old man? -kids today
\_ It's funny to read rants from a MOTD-basher at --
guess where? -- the MOTD! Face it, you're here
for the interaction as much as I am. It is not a
foreign or an outdated concept. |
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