11/03   http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,227282,00.html
        Unemployment Rate Hits 5 1/2 Year Low at 4.4 Percent as
        Economy Adds 92,000 Jobs
        \_ See? Trickle-down economy works. Tax cut works.
        \_ The current unemployment numbers are totally cooked. According
           to the Economist, if unemployment today was measured the way
           that it was in the 70s, current unemployment would be 7%.
           I prefer to use overall employment, since it is harder to
           manipulate, and that is down over the last two years about
           two percent.
           \_ How were they calculated in the 70s vs today and when did
              it change?  7% is still pretty good.
              \_ No, we want to socialize everything like the Europeans,
                 Canadians because that way our unemployment goes up!
           \_ How were they calculated in the 70s vs today and when
              did it change?  7% is still pretty good.

11/2    When I was young, there were those kids who you called stupid but
        they were just too stupid to recognize when they were being called
        stupid. You know, stupidity - if you avoid it and grow a brain,
        you'll do well for yourself. If you don't, you get stuck being
        Republican.
        \_ This is stupid and so are you.

11/3    Negative ads are extremely effective:
        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15549677
        \_ no news there.  always have been, that's why they're used even
           though the voters have been saying for decades they're turned
           off by negative campagning.

11/04   Does anyone know why the new 4 cyl non-hybrid Accord (which really
        kicks ass by the way) sounds very different than all the Accords
        before that? I've had 3 Accords in the past and all of them have
        the distinctive engine start sound lasts 300-400ms at a pretty
        high pitch (chichichichichi-vrooom). However when I startup a 2006
        Accord, the crank sound has a much lower pitch and lasts about 1
        sec to 1.5 sec (didoo-didoo-didoo-didoo-didoo-didoo-didoo-
        vroooOOOOOOOOMMMMMmmmmmm....) It doesn't startup like any of
        the old Accords. What's up?
        \_ Different starter apparently. Is that an issue?
           \_ Not really. I'm used to hearing the distinctive Accord sound
              and now the new Accord engine sounds like any other engine
              out there, and I miss it dearly. Oh well.
              \_ "Any other engine"? They all have unique sounds. You just
                 don't recognize them, because you owned an Accord. My
                 Lexus has a 'Toyota' sound. My BMW has a 'BMW' sound. So
                 now Accord has a new sound. So what? I owned an Accord
                 for 11 years and I know the sound. Why should anyone care
                 that it changed?
                 \_ Like I said it does NOT matter I just
                    miss it for sentimental reasons, you
                    dumb fuck.
                    \_ Whoa there. Be patient with dim wits.
                    \_ Yeah. So why the fuck should *WE* care and why
                       do you want to know *WHY* it sounds different if
                       it doesn't matter.

11/04   "Back in '76 many American V8s were struggling to put out 140
        horses." Dang, old cars suck.
        http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=46009
        \_ Yes, and many V8s were powering muscle cars and putting
           out 500 HP.
        \_ My first car was a 120hp Ford LTD V6 (not Crown Vic)  Go go V6 power!

11/03   I overheard this quote from NPR which I thought is amusing:
        "'Terror' is a tactic.  To say today's war is a war on 'Terror'
        is just like saying World War 2 is a war on 'Blitzkrieg.'"
        \_ Sounds pretty logical to me.
        \_ The US should stick with wars that have a definite
           win condition.  You can't win a war against a non proper noun.

11/4    Is it just me or Haggard looks like the grown up version of
        Steve Stifler in American Pie?
        http://www.gulfnews.com/world/U.S.A/10079630.html
        http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/11/evangelical_leader_ted_haggard_accused_of_gay_hooker_affair

11/04   Notre Dame sucks.  Got killed by a not-that-great Michigan team.
        Should've gotten killed by Michigan State, if it weren't for their
        terrible head coach.  Should've lost to mediocre UCLA.  Not looking
        dominant against a bad North Carolina team.  Allowed the worst
        Stanford team in history to hang around for a while.  And yet, due
        to a weak schedule, this crappy Notre Dame team, even if they lose
        to USC, will probably end up in a BCS game.  Nice.
        \_ How is Michigan not-that-great? Compared to whom? Cal? OSU?
           \_ Compared to Ball State.

11/04   Atheist - A non-prophet organization:
        http://erikveland.com/arkiv/images/macnn/red.atheist.png
        \_ Pointless to put the line and the picture... what's the context?

11/04   I'm shocked, SHOCKED!
        Neil Patrick Harris comes out:
        http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/11/04/doogie.ap/index.html
        \_ No way, man.  NPH would never do that.
        \_ "I'm tripping balls."
        \_ Gee, this ranks right up there with Rosie O'Donnell announcing she's
           a lesbian in terms of super surprises.  Next, you'll tell me that
           Lance Bass is gay.
        \_ First Ellen, then Rosie, George^WSulu, Lance, now Doogie!

11/04   Ted Haggard dismissed from church for "sexually immoral conduct"
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061105/ap_on_re_us/haggard_sex_allegations
        \_ So do we hate the Church for firing him for being gay or do we
           hate him for being a hypocrite/liar and we're glad he got fired?

11/4    Borat the movie, recommended or not?
        \_ It's awesome.  rottentomatoes agrees.
        \_ So-so.  As you might expect, the interview-type parts are great,
           but some of the more story-driven stuff lags.
        \_ There are a few absolutely insane really funny bits that I can't
           describe without ruining it for you.

11/04   Lately we've had a lot of onomatopoeia on the motd.  We need more!
        --onomatopoeia #1 fan

11/04   Do people still want Joe Ayoob back in as QB? See motd from sept.
        \_ As if anyone here remembers any single obscure motd entry from two
           months ago that doesn't have to do with Dems vs. GOP or renters
           vs. homeowners.  Dolt.
           \_ Someone claimed that Nate Longshore was worse than Joe Ayoob,
              "Cal's worst quarterback ever." Cal is off to its best start in
               (?) decades.
           \_ Someone claimed that Nate Longshore was worse than Joe
              Ayoob, "Cal's worst quarterback ever." Cal is off to its
              best start in (?) decades.
               \_ 5 decades