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| 2006/10/30-11/1 [Uncategorized] UID:45031 Activity:nil |
10/30 The new Inter Core Duel 2 commercial-- what do you guys think about
it? Does it have as much pizzass (sp) as say, the colorful Intel
bunnies that dance to 1970s music?
\_ Yum! I love pizzas. |
| 2006/10/30-11/1 [Transportation/Car, Transportation/Car/RoadHogs] UID:45032 Activity:low |
10/30 While trying to maneuver into a parking space at work this morning,
I bumped into the bumper of what looks like a brand new car while
going about 1 mile per hour. I left a note on the car windshield
with my number. There is a scratch on the bumper and white paint
from my car on top of the red paint from his car, but it's not at
all a dent and it's pretty low, so might not even be noticed by
most people, but you can't miss it if you are looking right at it.
Supposing the guy wants to have it repaired, how much does this
cost? Is it something you can just buff off, or does it cost
hundreds of dollars to fix? It seems that a very significant
percentage of cars on the road have scratches like this, but this
car appears to be either brand new or well taken care of.
\_ Did you take pictures of the scratch. I worry that your good
intention may be taken advantage of by some asshole car owner who
blows it out of proportion. "Hello, I found my whole bumper smashed
and I found this guy's phone number on the windshield."
\_ Owning a car != automatically an asshole.
\_ I know. I own a car and I'm not an asshole. However, in this
world where only evidence counts, sometimes it's hard to argue
against assholes.
\_ Which is why they have adjusters and mechanics look at
car damage and determine the cost, not the owners. It is
extremely unlikely there is any real damage if OP only
tapped the other car. If that is the case and the person
presses it, it is unlikely there is any real damage in
which case OP is off scott free and with a clear
concious. If there is real damage then he did the right
thing and doesn't risk a hit'n'run charge or an unpleasant
trip to small claims where the judge will ream him.
\_ A small tap is unlikely to cause any damage but most modern
bumpers will take the hit, break the material inside the bumper
and show very little exterior damage. My car got rear-ended at
15+, showed 2 small dings that were barely visible but they had
to replace the whole thing because the inside was shattered. It
was good of you to leave a note, btw.
\_ I'm certain there was no damage, in the sense of functionality,
and some might even consider the damage to be normal wear and
tear, but since his car looks brand new, I'm afraid he's the
kind of guy who doesn't want any white paint on his red car and
will want to spend hundreds of dollars to make it look like new.
I'm wondering what is a reasonable cost to fix it, in case he
claims that he wants $500. Thanks! -op
\_ Soap and water will probably take off the white paint. If
there's still a scratch, prefessional buffing may fix it.
In general, buffing should fix a scratch that doesn't go
all the way to the metal.
\_ Most cars, minivans and SUVs nowadays have styrofoam bumpers.
My '96 Cherokee has metal ones, and small scratches can't be
seen easily.
\_ Not just good of him, it's the law. If you get IDed leaving the
scene, you're up for a hit-and-run.
\_ So you're the asshole that scratched my new red car! Learn to
drive! It won't be cheap to fix! I'm guessing at *least* $500
if it cannot be buffed out. At least you left a note. Most
mfers just leave. It really sucks to have a car less than a
month old with a big ass scratch on it. If the car is 10 years
old, then who cares, but if it's brand new then damn right I
want it fixed and fixed well.
\_ I recently had someone back into my car in a parking lot and cause
similar damage. Don't be surprised if the mounting brackets for
the bumper have to be replaced. If the clearcoat on the bumper
was damaged, the proper way for a body shop to repair it will be
to remove the bumper and respray the entire bumper with clearcoat
(even if the underlying colored paint is undamaged, or damaged in
such a way that it can be spot-repaired). Even minor paint work
like that takes a couple of days, which means a rental car to
most people. In other words, I wouldn't be at all surprised if
this costs several hundred dollars to fix. Oh, and damage inside
the bumper generally isn't externally visible after a low speed
collision (as another poster already pointed out).
\_ Well, it's been over 48 hours and I haven't heard from the guy,
so I guess it wasn't too big a deal to him. -op |
| 2006/10/30-11/1 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:45033 Activity:nil |
10/30 Murdoch NY Post endorses Hillary:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061030/ap_on_el_se/ny_post_clinton
\_ It must be that NY tax surplus
http://news.google.com/news?q=new+york+tax+surplus |
| 2006/10/30-31 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:45034 Activity:high 93%like:45040 |
10/30 http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/10/zawahiri_was_ta.html (perhaps not a) Surprise! - Pakistani major general says Pakistani attack helos fired 4-5 missiles into terrorist training school, killing ~80, and that no women or children were at the school during the attack. - U.S. major says assault was "completely done by the Pakistani military". Attack comes on day that peace deal between region's tribal leaders and Pakistan govt was to be signed. - ABC News reports U.S. Predator UAV(s) actually conducted attack, and that Zawahiri, 2nd in command to Osama, was primary target. - Opposition political leader says 30 children were killed, school was not terrorist training center, and U.S. planes were used. (I kind of don't believe the children part, because kids' bodies are easily shown to the camera, and these haven't appeared. Young adults, okay; a few kids, certainly possible) \_ Which part is the "Surprise!"? \_ yeah, the ABC News report is suspect. The standard Hellfire 1-2 missiles that Predators carry isn't enough to kill 50-80 people normally. -op \_ I wondered about this too. A couple of Predator drones "completely destroyed a compound" and "killed 50-80 people?" Yeah right. \_ it also doesn't make sense that 4-5 rockets/missiles from from attack helos did it either. Weird. -op \_ Attack helos carry more than 1 rocket each. It depends on if they meant that 4-5 rockets were fired or some unknown number of helos each fired 4-5 rockets. But, no, I agree with you that 4-5 rockets total would be unlikely to directly kill 80 people. Perhaps the building was multi-story and collapsed and burned and that killed ~80 people? \_ the Pakistani major general was pretty clear: 4-5 rockets/missiles total. Maybe it was an anti-personnel Hellfire variant (just add Al powder), first tested in Iraq in '03. -op http://csua.org/u/hbq (globalsecurity.org) |
| 2006/10/30-31 [Health/Disease/General, Health/Men] UID:45035 Activity:nil |
10/30 Sheldon Brown is dying :( It's a dark dark day:
http://sheldonbrown.org/journal/health.html
\_ Cheer up, so is Fidel Castro! |
| 2006/10/30-31 [ERROR, uid:45036, category id '18005#4.3125' has no name! , , Politics/Domestic/Abortion, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:45036 Activity:nil |
10/30 Does anyone have a list of the contested seats in the house? I'd like
to track the polls in those districts.
\_ http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/U.S._House_election,_2006
It shouldn't be too hard to extract a list from here. |
| 2006/10/30-11/1 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/California] UID:45037 Activity:nil |
10/30 I'm still waiting for the October Surprise. What's up? -GOP #1 fan
\_ Dems win the election, show up at Congress to discover that the
GOP has pried up everything of value and skipped out on the rent.
\_ Ah, so all that'll be left behind is their moral superiority
\_ of the GOP? No, that was sold for crack long ago.
\_ Dem's win the election, show up at congress to find the govt with
taxes slashed, spending levels raised, and a massive debt built
up.
\_ Whereas the Dem plan is to raise taxes, raise spending levels
and build up a massive debt. Vote third party.
\_ Ah, you're describing the platform of legendary Democratic
candidate Dumbshit McDoesntexist.
\_ Is that anything like the Clinton's trashing the Whitehouse
on their way out?
\_ As in, it didn't/won't happen? |
| 2006/10/30-31 [Reference/Religion] UID:45038 Activity:high |
10/30 Poll of the week. What is your favorite wacko cult? My favorite
is the Koolaid cult where 1000+ people drank koolaid and died.
How about your favorite cult? Koresh Davidian? Heaven's Gate?
\_ Scientology.
\_ Islam.
\_ Christianity.
\_ rms-inanity
\_ Mormonism
\_ Apple users
\_ Raelians, hands-down. I can't believe no one's even mentioned them.
\_ Mormons. Warren Jeffs.
\_ My favorite evil cult is the Nazi Geramny Cult. Heil.
\_ Remember, they're only wackos because they don't have critical mass
to be a religion. All of the slightly more mainstream religions
can tut-tut the cultists for accepting the _wrong_ set of
baseless mythology on faith.
\_ Heaven's gate. I was just starting to discover the joys of the
internets when they offed themselves. Then a friend of a friend
of a friend mirrored their whole site for great justice before
the police had it taken down. Ahhh.. memories.
\_ Four-way toss-up between Temple Solaire, Heaven's Gate,
Branch Davidians and People's Temple. Catholic church and islam
are in close running for honorable mention. -John
\_ I'm no fan of either religion, but if you call Catholicism and
Islam cults, you're using a very odd(wrong) definition of cult,
especially for Islam. They don't have a leader or a coherent
organization!
\_ Well, catholicism has a leader and a coherent organization,
and having spent a large part of my early childhood in a
very strictly catholic environment and community, I think I
know what I'm talking about. As for islam, would you accept
if I said "radical islam" instead? There is no one structure
of authority, but many charismatic individual leaders who are
followed pretty much unquestionably. -John
\_ Not the LDS?
\_ Not even close. -John
\_ atheists, secular Jews.
\_ jews for jesus and the atheists who hate others for believing.
\_ which atheists hate others for believing? do they have an
organisation?
\_ mormons, they are so nice for cultists
\_ I don't remember the name, but there was a religion based on
celibacy. They didn't last very long.
\_ There were several Christian utopian communities formed in the
mid-19th century in the U.S. which practiced celibacy. Yes, they
died out.
\_ The Shakers?
\_ Catholicism?
\_ Computer Science? ha ha. |
| 2006/10/30 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Domestic/911] UID:45039 Activity:nil |
10/30 http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/10/zawahiri_was_ta.html Surprise! In attack initially attributed to Pakistani attack helos on religious school which reportedly kill 80, U.S. Predator UAV(s) actually conducted attack. Zawahiri, 2nd in command to Osama, primary target. |
| 2006/10/30 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:45040 Activity:nil 93%like:45034 |
10/30 http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/10/zawahiri_was_ta.html Surprise! - Pakistani major general says Pakistani attack helos fired 4-5 missiles into terrorist training school, killing ~80, and that no women or children were at the school during the attack. - U.S. major says assault was "completely done by the Pakistani military". Attack comes on day that peace deal between region's tribal leaders in region and Pakistan govt was to be signed. - ABC News reports U.S. Predator UAV(s) actually conducted attack, and that Zawahiri, 2nd in command to Osama, was primary target. - Opposition political leader says 30 children were killed, school was not terrorist training center, and U.S. planes were used. |
| 2006/10/30-11/1 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:45041 Activity:high |
10/30 My favorite command in UNIX is "cal". What is your favorite?
\_ Nein, I vill be. A German and a Jerry, danke, und Heil! -John
\_ PARSE ERROR. Are you on drugs again John?
\_ That's just my troll farm being rambunctious. Use new
Extra Strength Troll-Gro for healthy and frisky trolls!
\_ Based on frequency of use, gonna have to go with tcsh
\- "strip tcsh"
\_ unzip; touch; strip; finger; head; latex; mount; gasp; yes;
god; more; comm; spray; umount; sleep; zip; exit; dump
\_ date
\_ bc followed closely by procmail
\_ bc? What's so special about bc? I picked "cal" because it is
useful, and it is Cal!
\_ I'd say I use bc and cal most. Bc is great when you
want to do simple math.
\_ Except that you have to tweak scale to get decimal values.
I prefer nickle or just perl -lne 'print eval', or better
yet, ~mconst/bin/pc --dbushong
\_ You don't have to tweak scale. You put scale= in your
.bcrc file just once. You can also pipe to bc, it has
command line history and editing, variables, all the
basic math functions you'd expect on a decent
calculator and let's you write your own as well. Your
bcfu is weak! When you can pull this bc from my
hand, only then will you will ready.
\_ why can't it graph functions and find intercepts?
\_ why can't vi output quality latex for your
thesis? why can't gcc debug your code? why
can't the government provide services without
waste? Because they're not designed to.
\_ Can you explain why using bc makes sense
instead of programs like mathematica, matlab,
maple, or igor? I mean assuming you're not
pathalogically cheap or are selecting your
math software based only on demonstrating your
"fu"?
\_ If you don't know the difference between a
small but powerful-for-it's-size CLI unix
tool and a full blown math package like
mathematica you wouldn't understand the
reason for using either in the first place.
Why do you use "ls" instead of "echo *"?
Sheesh. Enough trolling. You're way into
lame now.
\_ Oh, no, I get it. Matlab and mathematica
are what those of us who actually need
to do real math use to do useful work.
Bc is what fat sysadmins use to show
eachother how big their dicks are.
\_ Thank you for participating in the
"What is your favorite UNIX command?"
thread. Your math nerd hostility
and insane rant has been duly noted
and disregarded. When you learn the
difference between "unix command" and
"shrink wrapped math package" you may
attract more than disdain the next
time you attempt to communicate. In
the mean time, I suggest classes on
how to behave like a real human being
might (even simulated behavior is
acceptable online) rather than like
the raging flaming asshole you are.
Again, thank you for joining us.
_/
Likewise, asshole
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\_ you're pretty touchy for a hostile math nerd,
but you're still welcome to join humanity if
you ever figure it out.
\_ soda% matlab
matlab: Command not found.
\_ /usr/bin/octave
\_ Well I'm just saying, doing that doesn't sound
that hard and would be a cool thing to have
in a quick commandline utility like this.
Newton's method and whatnot. It would have to
have the syntax support though. A simple
ascii-graphics attempt at a graph would be
cool too. Anything like that out there? I
guess it doesn't belong in bc though. gc?
\_ In theory you could get bc to output data
in a format you could feed into something
else to graph, etc. bc supports loops,
logic, functions, etc, so it can probably
be extended to do a lot of things never
imagined by the authors but you'd have to
write those functions yourself or call them
in bc from math library.
\_ My manpage says nothing about .bcrc, and it doesn't
seem to work. What version are you using?
\_ # bc -v
bc 1.06
Copyright 1991-1994, 1997, 1998, 2000 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
\_ That's what I've got and soda's got, and the
.bcrc file doesn't work on either.
\_ Hmm, dunno. I'm using freebsd. Maybe
their version is tweaked a bit. You could
alias bc to echo scale=foo | \bc or
something I guess but it probably isn't
worth it and would probably break other
things.
\_ Those don't have good commandline editing (history etc).
I suppose adding that shouldn't be too hard.
\_ bc -l
\_ nickle has history, and I like its . thingy, but you're
right, my bc fu is weak.
\_ Nickle is overkill. And there are things I use bc
for daily that I'm pretty sure are harder in nickle.
\_ emacs
\- emacs transcends unix
\- find ... | xargs
\_ grep -r something *
\_ I tend to do more grep -r something .
when I'm using -r .... --dbushong
\_ If you like cal(1), try ~dbushong/bin/c
\_ screen
\_ wow, did I actually see someone flicking someone off?
\_ just Hostile Math Nerd upset that someone would dare use a
simple program like bc instead of a monster to do simple math.
\_ You see that Matlab code on your ass? There's identical
Matlab code on my boot.
\_ Nope, just greasy math nerd on the rampage.
\_ awk
\_ perl |
| 2006/10/30-11/1 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/OS/OsX, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:45042 Activity:low |
10/30 Anyone have recommendations for a reasonably stable filesystem that
I can use on large (~150GB) external USB drives, that's read/
writeable by XP, MacOS and possibly FreeBSD/Linux? -John
\_ If you want write access from all three, I think you're stuck with
fat32.
\_ Which BTW limits you to files of 4GB or less, so don't think you
can make DVD images.
\_ And I think 130GB partitions, that's my problem. -John
\_ That limit is supposedly only for creating/checking from
a Windows system. Unix tools will let you format larger
partitions, after which newer Windows can mount rw.
\_ That's what I thought, but I just tested it on a W2K
box and no dice. For some reason it pukes on large
file copies, and when the data mount exceeds ~half the
drive size. Funny enough MacOS also crapped out on
a FAT32 drive formatted...on my Mac. -John
\_ Just curious, why isn't 130GB large enough and why
does it have to be r/w across multiple unrelated OS?
\_ 130 would be plenty except I haven't gotten it
to work. It's the drive I ended up putting all
my backup game ISOs, ripped music and DVD rips
on while in S. America (they're on a raid5
array on a FreeBSD box serving samba at home) and
I'd like to be able to read/write from both my
Mac and my PC while abroad. -John
\_ vxfs
\_ vxfs does not support windows xp, mac osx, or freebsd
\_ interesting. there is a veritas foundation for windows
product but it only supports the windows file systems but
otherwise looks very much like their vxfs based unix product.
\_ The project to port VxFS to Windows got canned because
Microsoft opposed it, so Storage Foundation on Windows
is just Volume Manager. |
| 2006/10/30-11/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:45043 Activity:moderate |
10/30 Is the CSUA Lottery Scheduling still being used on soda?
\_ What software cannot solve, hardware does.
\_ Thankfully, no. It's a stupid project that needed a big sucker
(csua) to experiment on so that the author can brag about it
in his publication.
\_ God forbid the CSUA get involved in computer science. -tom
\_ Why is it stupid? From what I understand, it tries to allot the
same amount of CPU time to each user instead of each process.
Sounds like a more fair scheduling policy to me.
\_ Lottery scheduling is useful in theory, in publications such
as the the one from dpetrou. It is like adding 0.1 PSI to your
tire pressure to make it run more effectively. In reality one
can spend much more effective efforts optimizing a system.
\_ No.
\_ Is the fuctionality now provided by Linux without modification?
\_ I guess people didn't feel the need for it after we went SMP
on soda.... I don't know though, I wasn't involved in the
decision.
decision. Honestly, I haven't noticed any trouble.
\_ I noticed slow-downs and CPU hogging with Mark VII, whereas
with VI the vast majority of slow-downs was random net
bottlenecks. Anyway, I don't see the VII slow-downs as
often now as during the first several months.
\- The LOTTERY SCHEDULER has been replace by the
ERGODIC SCHEDULER. |
| 2006/10/30-11/1 [Uncategorized] UID:45044 Activity:nil |
10/30 On the current season of the The Amazing Race, there are two
brothers, Erwin and Godwin Cho, who went to Cal. They are around
their early 30s. Does anyone out there remember them from their
days at Cal?
\_ Oh yeah, Cho. That was the Asian guy, right? |
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