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| 2006/10/25-27 [Transportation/Car] UID:44956 Activity:low |
10/25 I have a friend who's going to Hawaii for honeymoon and they have
5 days planned for Maui. She'd really like to not rent a car but
her frugal side also won't pay 80+ dollars per person per day for
van tours. Anyone know of any tours that are significantly cheaper
or other alternatives? Thanks.
\_ Don't have an answer but what are some of the advantages of
the different islands? I'm Hawaii dumb.
\_ No car in Oahu, smart.
No car in Maui, stupid. REALLY stupid.
Tours... ugh, if you like being herded like a cattle, sure
there are lots of them out there.
\_ Your friend should go rent a car. They are totally missing out
if all they do is take stupid van tours which will cost way way
more than renting a car anyway. While there, they should go see
the guy doing the magic show in town. I can't remember his name
or where it was but he's the only guy with a magic show on the
island. And yes, it will cost her a few bucks to get in the show.
\_ The Magic of Polynesia with John Hirokawa is on the island
of Oahu. Can you say OH-AH-HU? Oahu is not Maui. Oahu inhabits
80% of the Hawaiians and is a great place to piss off newly
weds. It raises blood pressure for new husbands who have to
deal with their materialistic wives loves to shop at the mega
Westfield, Gucci, Luis Vuitton, Tiffany, and exact same stores
one could find at the mainland. If you have a materialistic
wife and want to raise some blood pressure, go to Oahu.
What are we talking about? Oh, the magic show. You're getting
Oahu and Maui confused, you dumb fuck.
\_ Hi! Since I've been to Maui and never been to Oahu and the
guy I saw was definitely not Hirokawa, maybe you'd like to
come back and apologise for being such a complete asshole.
No, don't bother, your apology isn't worth anything anyway.
\_ Here is the magic show I saw on MAUI, not OH-AH-HU.
http://www.warrenandannabelles.com
And amazingly, the site actually says the show is on MAUI,
and not OH-AH-HU. How odd is that? But being a dumb fuck
I was probably on OH-AH-HU and not MAUI so what would I know?
http://www.warrenandannabelles.com show was awesome.
\_ Doesn't answer your question, but if they rent a car there are
some really spectacular trips, like the Hana highway, the
North circuit or up to Haleakala to watch the sunrise. If they
go around the South, they'll want a 4x4 though. Seems like
kind of a shame to miss this stuff to save a few bucks. -John
\- jeeze, it's a honeymoon which means 1. you have two people to
split the costs over [or would have to buy two tickets in per
person stuff] 2. you'ld think you'ld splurge a little ...
trying to save money here is ridiculous. time is money and when
you come home with amazing memories or photographs, you wont
miss the cash. if you want to be frugal, eat cheep ... you can
go out to nice dinners later [and found in hawaii is largely
go out to nice dinners later [and food in hawaii is largely
leem or poor price/perf] but take advantage of the unique
opportunities in hawaii. the other money saving advice: dont
buy stupid vacation souveniers which just take up space in
your life. figure out what you want to do and then worry about
transportation. fixing the transportation options and seeing
what that lets you do is leem. --king of cheep travel
what that lets you do is leem. i have a high tolerance for
discomfort and generally travel quite cheeply, but you've got
to know when to throw money at problems. you want to set a
global budget perhaps [like we want to spend $2000-2500 instead
of $3000], but on a vacation you cant try to optimize every
step ... too much time overhead. --psb of maghrebia
\_ She knows the car is really the best option for Maui in
general. It's not the cost of the car she's worried about.
The groom's eyes have been really bad lately and she's not
a good driver, so she's worried about safety of driving
in unknown environment. -op
\_ If they can't drive well how the fuck do they get around
in California? Are they one of those immigrant drivers
who drive 50MPH on the 880/101 carpool lane?
\_ Driving there just isn't that hard. They might want to
skip the Hana Highway if they're *really* bad drivers
but otherwise they should just get a car.
\_ Just drive slowly on the Hana highway. It's pretty
tame but very very doable. They might just want to
make sure to not do it after dark as it gets _very_
dark. And I agree 100% with psb. -John
\_ Actually, car rental in Maui doesn't cost all that much. We've been
paying an average of $30/day and as a rule of thumb, it's cheaper
when you rent for a whole week. (e.g. you get 7 days for the price
of 5 days. If she wants it cheaper, buy it as a package (with hotel
and/or airfare). Hawaii is usually designed to be cheaper when you
don't buy (airfare, hotel, car) separately.
\_ If you friends are handicapped, why did you she is frugal?
\_ If you friends are handicapped, why did you say she is frugal?
BTW, how much did "they" spend on an engagement ring? |
| 2006/10/25-26 [Transportation/Car] UID:44957 Activity:nil |
10/24 We have a Jeep Wrangler because it was the most robust car we could
find with high clearance and low center of gravity for a lot of the
non-roads we end up on. That said, I am surprised at the number of
these I've seen while visiting SF, and am confused--they're
mechanically cantankerous, uncomfortable gas guzzlers without much
cargo space, and seem totally out of place on the mainly paved
roads here--can someone explain this? Doesn't parse. -John
\_ You obviously haven't seen a Jeep commercial, and if you did you
didn't dig it. In either case you're totally out of touch with
mainstream America.
\_ Probably. -John
\_ Welcome to America, you've been gone too long.
\_ #2 on top ten gay cars:
http://www.channel4.com/4car/ft/feature/top+ten/1744/3
\_ Are you one of those people who won't touch men's grooming
products because they're gay? -Gay John |
| 2006/10/25-26 [Uncategorized] UID:44958 Activity:nil |
10/24 http://www.spankbush.com |
| 2006/10/25-27 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:44959 Activity:kinda low |
10/25 Fedora Core 6 is out:
http://fedoraproject.org/static-tmp/FC6ReleaseSummary.html
\_ Anyone still use Fedora Core?
\_ Why wouldn't they?
\_ Because Ubuntu is a better and more popular distro?
\_ In what way is it better than RH/SuSE/Debian?
Will most commerical software for RH/SuSE run
w/o problems on Ubuntu, or do you have to do
a hack job to get it to work?
\_ Because it's a bleeding edge product with an aggressive
EOL timeline and no real advantage over more stable
products like CentOS. -tom
\_ Depends on if you use RHEL as your production
environment. If so, then it makes sense to use Fedora
Core on some systems if you are looking ahead. Ubuntu
and CentOS don't really fill that need. If you do not
use RHEL, then I guess you don't care.
\_ Many of my customers hesitated about deploying
on CentOS b/c they didn't really believe that
is was RH compatible. For some reason, the same
was not true of Fedora Core. They viewed it as
a way of testing stuff out on a pre-release of
RHEL.
\_ Exactly. The "for some reason" is that they both
are Red Hat products.
\_ So FC is a complete RH inhouse job like
in the old days (ie before RH9)? I thought
that it was spun off into the open source
"community" and that RH merely supervised.
\_ "The Fedora Project is maintained and
driven by the community and sponsored by
Red Hat, Inc." From http://fedora.redhat.com.
One look at that web site should show that
you should not be running Fedora in any
production environment. -tom
\_ Don't run in production != don't run
at all. As above, it's useful for testing
pre-release. FC basically ends up becoming
RHEL. |
| 2006/10/25 [Computer/HW/Memory] UID:44960 Activity:nil |
10/25 Anyone know if ACP-EP memory is a problem? Looks like it's the
least expensive where I am, but I don't have any idea of its quality. |
| 2006/10/25-27 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:44961 Activity:nil |
10/25 I recall there being a really quick easy perl way to do global
replace from the command line, but I can't seem to quite get it
right. Something like:
perl -e 's/pattern/replace/' file.txt
Help?
\_ I know how to do it with sed:
sed -e s/pattern/replace/g file.txt > /tmp/output.txt
\_ modern seds support perl's -i syntax as shown below:
sed -i -e s/pattern/replace/g file.txt
\_ perl -pi -e 's/pattern/replace/' file.txt
(You need the -pi) |
| 2006/10/25 [Uncategorized] UID:44962 Activity:nil |
10/25 http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys |
| 2006/10/25-27 [Recreation/Dating] UID:44963 Activity:low |
10/25 http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/25/nyregion/26marriagecnd.html NJ's highest court rules 4-3 that same-sex unions are entitled to the same rights as heterosexual marriage, but leaves the name of that union ("marriage", "domestic partnership", etc.) up to the legislature. Dissenting justices correctly assert that same-sex couples are entitled to participate in state-sanctioned civil marriage. \_ I guess I don't understand why thegays are in a tiff about this. \_ I guess I don't understand why the gays are in a tiff about this. I mean marriage _is_ a historical concept, as is all of the terminology associated with it. Of course gay couples should have the same rights and privileges, but why do they think legislation should manage "repurposing" of traditional terms? Do they think we should legislate away the terms "husband" and "wife"? \_ Marriage has legal as well as social meaning. You are free to any social meaning you want, but if the legal term is marriage it should be the same legal term for both. Would you have a problem with the government getting out of the "marriage" bussiness entirely and just having a blanket civil partnership setup? Seems the easiest solution to me. -aspo \_ Totally. -pp \_ I agree as well, but I think that's because we're all unsentimental libertarian geeks. unsentimental liberarian geeks. To the extent that marriage can be interpreted as a religious instutution, the government has NO business ever getting involved in that. To the extent that it's just providing infrastructure for two people to form a legal contract in regards to things like hospital visitation and wills, I think most Americans are ok with allowing that for gay couples at this point. \_ Yes. The gubamint had better start getting its act together and protecting our family values by outlawing deviancy like garraige, abortions and evolution. Otherwise, hellfire and brimstone like soddom and gommora will surely be visited on this sinning land. \_ ob "separate but equal" \_ ob distinguishable from Brown. \_ i don't think so, but it does need to go to SCOTUS \_ The Brown plaintiffs had the weight of the 13th, 14th and 15th amends. behind them. Those amends., esp. the 14th were passed primarily for the purpose of preventing the States from engaging in discriminatory behavior against a particular class of of people, a class of people of which the Brown plaintiffs were members. No such claim can be made wrt gays. The 14th was not passed for their benefit or to right wrongs the States had visited upon them. Even under Carolene Products, it is hard to argue that gays are a suspect class who are in need of special court protection b/c they are unable to avail themselves of the political process and therefore they ought to be protected by the 14th (thus rendering Loving, &c. inappl- icable.) Barring a 14th amend. claim, I do not see the basis for fed intervention in a purely state law issue. \_ "separate but equal" & 14th must be tested in SCOTUS as it applies to gay marriage. i'm not sure whether carolene or loving really help you that much. |
| 2006/10/25-27 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:44964 Activity:nil |
10/25 So I'm reading about the recent law passed that takes
away Habeas Corpus from non citizens.
Was there a huge plague of non citizens clogging up our courts
with their petitions?
\_ url?
\_ Really? You didn't know George W Bush just signed into
a bill denying the right of any non citizen we arrest
from filing an appeal of their detainment, one of those
'basic rights under the United States Constitution' things?
Fuck.
\_ The USSC made the exact opposite ruling regarding Germans
and Japanese held off shore during WWII so this isn't that
shocking an event.
\_ Are you refering to Korematsu or some other case?
\_ No I didn't know that. And I was asking for a URL
for the text of the bill, not a news story.
\_ Ask Google, no time to help you today.
\_ I didn't realize the US Constitution applied to random
people in other countries. |
| 2006/10/25-27 [Recreation/Dating] UID:44965 Activity:nil |
10/25 bra rant that replaced motd wiped. motd restored.
\_ Ok, I want to know what I missed. Next time put it in a tmp
directory or something so people can read it.
\_ ob"Oh my breasts are so big and my bras don't fit and blah
blah blah". You missed nothing.
\_ What is the deal with the bra rant, anyway? Is it some g-mag
letter or something?
\_Best thing about having enormous breasts:
Having an enormous erogenous zone in an easy to reach place.
Worst thing about having enormous breasts:
Having a very sensitive area in an easy to reach place.
http://flickr.com/photos/oliviamiao/279221151
\_ Huh? All I see is some hot boobs in a white sports bra.
\_ Huh? All I see is hot boobs in a white sports bra.
Here's a similar one:
http://flickr.com/photos/oliviamiao/260259968
\_ I like http://static.flickr.com/53/152151238_1829c26dd2_o.jpg
more
\_ No idea but replacing the motd with it was not cool. |
| 2006/10/25 [Recreation/Dating] UID:44966 Activity:nil |
10/25 Argh, I don't know what to do. I've been dealing with so much hassle
for more or less the past 6 months, trying to shop online for bras,
dealing with sizing issues, returns, exchanges... now it's to the point
where I ABSOLUTELY NEED new bras, as I have ONE that, while not being
the right size, is close enough that I can wear it. I NEED more, though,
because even that one is pushing it. It's more than two years old and
starting to fall apart.
There was a sale going on with Lane Bryant's Cacique bra line. I ordered
a few in 30 G... in most bras, a G is slightly too big. In three of the
bras I ordered, I was hanging out of it majorly. To the point where I
don't even know if an H will fit me. I'm going to exchange them this
weekend if I can. One of the ones I ordered, also in a 30 G, fit pretty
well. Not perfectly, but considering the dire NEED I'm in, I decided to
keep it and wear it. Well, in the week and a half I've worn it, it's
gone from being slightly too snug in the band on the loosest hooks to
suddenly barely being tight enough on the tightest band setting. How is
that POSSIBLE? I looked at the bra, and it didn't look stretched out,
but now I constantly have to tug it down in the back.
ARGH.
I am just SO FRUSTRATED right now. I need bras that fit and I need
them NOW. I shouldn't have to deal with this. I WANTED something cute,
something that I'm not embarrassed to be wearing, but at this point I
should probably just return the Lane Bryant bras, go to the one store
in town that has decent bras in my size, the store that's run by the
creepy lady who barges in on me in the fitting room, and get one of
the utilitarian Goddess ones that I HATE because it's the only thing
they carry. At least then I'll have SOMETHING. Even if they're ugly
and uncomfortable, at least they're something I can try on in *gasp*
an actual STORE, and know that they probably won't magically stretch
out.
Sorry, I know this is a little bit angsty, but I just kind of need to
blow off some steam with people who understand.
\_ Where is this coming from? Is this some old penthouse letter or
something? |
| 2006/10/25 [Uncategorized/German] UID:44967 Activity:nil |
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| 2006/10/25 [Recreation/Dating] UID:44968 Activity:nil |
10/25 Gawd, http://cnn.com is the ONLY site of all the major media outlets to give a misleading headline: "Same-sex marriage wins state battle" |
| 2006/10/25-27 [Recreation/Dating] UID:44969 Activity:kinda low |
10/25 Doing research on hot female teacher, young male student molestation.
Is there a comprehensive list of their names and/or URLs?
\_ Niiiiiiiiiice
\_ Nice. Nice.
\_ Nice.
\_ Nice. Very nice.
\_ someone already beat you to it
http://moonagewebdream.blogs.com/moonage_webdream/2006/04/debra_lefave_pa.html
http://tinyurl.com/yz6atw (moonagewebdream.blogs.com)
\_ Beat him to... asking for a list?
\_ doing research on hot female teacher molestation
\_ This dude needs to put down the Celine and the crack pipe --
his blog entry is unreadable.
\_ Debra Lefave (sic) and Pamela Rogers Turner are hot. Mary Kay
Letourneau and Sandra "Beth" Geisel are not hot.
\_ WND's been following them for some time--hot or not:
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52172 |
| 2006/10/25-27 [Recreation/Travel] UID:44970 Activity:nil |
10/25 We just went to Oahu for 5 days for only $748. Two roundtrip plane
tickets AND a 2 star hotel that was only 3 blocks from the beach.
I got the $1200 package that was on discount for $848 on Expedia,
and also got an instant $100 rebate that was posted online. Total
trip excluding food and entertainment was $748. Nice deal.
\_ 2 star hotel? Is that like a Motel 6?
\_ No. It was a cozy little place and it felt more like a 3
star hotel. Clerks treated you like a family member.
\_ Stars are not the definitive guide to hotel quality--they
also, depending on the ratings group, take into account things
like size, handicapped accessibility, a restaurant (no matter
how crappy), etc. I've been at 2-3 star places that blew
away 5 star business hotels. -John |
| 2006/10/25-27 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:44971 Activity:nil |
10/25 LaTeX question: How do I scale a tabular envornment or a table to
an arbitrary height and width? Using \resizebox seems to work if
one of the dimensions is !, but it doesn't seem to work right if
I specify both dimensions. Thanks in advance.
\_ Explain more? "Resize"? Smaller/larger? Scale what's inside?
Put more white space in?
\_ I have a tabular environment that I would like to scale to
a size of exactly x inches wide and y inches tall.
\_ scale fonts or not? If not, where do you want the
whitespace? |
| 2006/10/25-26 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Finance/Investment] UID:44972 Activity:nil 66%like:44988 |
10/25 http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/10/30/8391806 Revolt of the fairly rich \_ Because they can best see the broken promises of the prior social order where "go to school, work hard = good retirement". |
| 2006/10/25-27 [Consumer/TV, Recreation/Media] UID:44973 Activity:nil |
10/25 dish network or directv? yes/no and reasons for why. okthx
\_ neither. If you can't download torrents of your shows, they're not
worth watching anyway.
\_ UR s0 K3WL!!11 1 1uv U ]<3\/\/1 p1r8 g1ze!11 ]<@/\/ 1 B leik U?!!!
\_ No real difference. Get the one that has the channels you want
at the cheaper price.
\_ Dunno about dish, but my parents have directv and I swear that
after midnight every other channel is paid programming. |
| 2006/10/25-27 [Uncategorized] UID:44974 Activity:nil |
10/25 http://www.warrenandannabelles.com for a great magic show on Maui. If you're going to Oahu I don't know any shows there. \_ Question is, you can watch magic shows anywhere. Sure, some might be better than others but no matter how good it is, why in the world would you blow a trip to Hawaii to watch a magic show? \_ Because you're not blowing a trip to Hawaii to watch a magic show. It is one of the many things you can do while there. What were you planning on doing every night for a week on Maui? It isn't that busy a place at night. \_ I don't know. What type of things do couples do at night? But if the obvious doesn't come to mind, there are plenty of things. Watch the sun set, attend a Luau (if you're fortunate to be invited to one), walk down Lahina at night, gaze at the stars on an island where the skies are actually clear, or just plain sleep early. The thing about Hawaii is that everything closes and opens early. If you plan on going windsurfing at 1pm, you might be out of luck. That's my opinion. \_ Yeah and in a week long trip I'm sure they couldn't find 3 whole hours (including dinner) to catch the whole show one night. \_ I was planning on doing yermom every night. |
| 2006/10/25-26 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:44975 Activity:kinda low 97%like:44987 |
10/25 In Syria, Iraq's Fate Silences Democracy Activists
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/25/AR2006102501893_pf.html
\_ I can't seem to find this URL...? |
| 2006/10/25-27 [Recreation/Computer, Recreation/Humor] UID:44976 Activity:low |
10/25 Rush thinks it's funny to make fun of Michael J. Fox by miming his
movements:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/25/olbermann-gives-us-the-visual-to-limbaughs-attack-on-michael-j-fox
\_ Rush is a Republican. Of course he's evil! You don't need any
evidence.
\_ obFollowTheDamnLink
\_ No reason to follow the link. Evil!
\_ Has Rush dropped his whole Compassionate Conservative shtick
(that he ripped off from Michael Savage, BTW)? I never hear
him mention that anymore. It must be too egregious, even for
Rush.
\_ Just the ravings of a junkie. |
| 2006/10/25-27 [Recreation/Humor] UID:44977 Activity:nil Cat_by:auto |
10/25 http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/86dd The Ex Knife Holder Category: Humor |
| 2006/10/25-27 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:44978 Activity:nil |
10/25 My new favorite built in feature of Firefox 2.x:
Edit->Preferences->Main->
When Firefox starts: (drop down menu)
Show my windows and tabs from last time - danh |
| 2006/10/25-27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:44979 Activity:nil |
10/25 How far is 1 lap around Martin Luther King Junior High
track in Berkeley? thanks. - danh
\_ Trust no one. Measure straight sections with laser rangefinder
measure radii also, compute distances.
\_ if it's a standard track, it should be a quarter mile (400m)
\_ This is what I have been told. How do I know if it's a
standard track? - danh
\- the dwight derby track is THE STANDARD ... you can
calibrate to it.
\_ It is a standard high school track. Likely 440yds, not 400m
(high school track events are by/large still in yds/miles)
\_ 440 yards = 402 meters.
\_ Having attended MLKJr.H.S. I can tell you it is *not* a standard
size, due to issues with the size of the available space. When we
would run a mile, we were supposed to do 4 laps, plus about 2/3
the length of a straightaway. |
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