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2006/10/13-14 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/India, Recreation/House] UID:44806 Activity:kinda low
10/12   'One soldier told him later: "Sir, three years ago before I joined the
        army, I never thought I'd say 'That damn marijuana'."'
        http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/10/12/canada.troops.marijuana.reut/index.html
        \_ Yet another reason I'd like to see pot legalized.  I hate pot culture
           and I think it's a stupid drug, but I think it would be great
           to be able to grow huge pot plants to conceal my bunker from
           aerial infrared photography.  *sigh*.
        \_ Yet another reason I'd like to see pot legalized.  I hate pot
           culture and I think it's a stupid drug, but I think it would
           be great to be able to grow huge pot plants to conceal my
           bunker from aerial infrared photography.  *sigh*.
        \_ FORESTS of pot plants?? And opium is the main cash export of
           Afghanistan??
           \_ Per pound/ounce, opium's a much better investment. Also, the
              home-grown MJ industry here is widespread, whereas our opium
              production is virtually non-existent.
2006/10/13-14 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:44807 Activity:nil
10/12   http://csua.org/u/h6t (latimes.com)
        Bush Open to Change in Tactics (in Iraq)
        "My attitude is, don't do what you're doing if it's not working
        -- Change!" -Our Phearless Leader
        \_ FLIIIIIPPPPPFLLOOOPPPPEEERRRRRR!!!!!!111!!!!!
        \_ "That's cut and run!" -GWB
2006/10/13 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:44808 Activity:moderate
10/13   Early snow?!?!  Damn this global warming!
        \_ Buffalo, NY: Land of sin, land of snow.
        \_ global warning refers to a global average temperature changes.
           However due to interaction of various climates, some may actually
           wind up colder, or simply both hotter and colder.
           \_ I'm fully aware of that.  However, every time the temperature is
              slightly above normal (even on one day) we are barraged by global
              warming comments. -op
           \_ Exactly.  This is why many scientists refer to it as Global
              Climate Change.
        \_ You're just as stupid as the people who said that the northeastern
           heat wave finally proved to them that GW was real.
2006/10/13-14 [Uncategorized] UID:44809 Activity:nil
10/13   The Economist argues that the Nobel Peace prize should have been
        withheld this year:
        http://economist.com/agenda/displaystory.cfm?story_id=8045069
        \- i dont understand the thinking here. it would be one thing to
           claim yunis didnt deserve it and they were lowering their
           standards becase nobody deserving was avail ... but that doesnt
           seem to be what they were saying. and i think yunis is a much
           better choice than a lot of people ... like that stupid african
           tree woman or that south american fraud. i think the timing of
           the award to that turkinh fellow is interesting since he got
           the award to that turkish fellow is interesting since he got
           into some hot water lately ... it probably buys him some welcome
           insulation.
2006/10/13-14 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:44810 Activity:nil
10/13   Cheney: The Fatal Touch
        by Joan Didion
        http://www.nybooks.com/articles/19376
        "The very survival of the executive species, then, was seen by Cheney
        and his people as dependent on its brute ability to claim absolute
        power and resist all attempts to share it."
2006/10/13-14 [Uncategorized] UID:44811 Activity:nil
10/13   Unfinished article of murdered Russian journalist
        http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article1868072.ece
2006/10/13-14 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:44812 Activity:nil
10/13   British Army head receives overwhelming support from military
        http://csua.org/u/h71 (guardian.co.uk)
        One senior officer says chief's statements hurt morale
        http://csua.org/u/h73 (telegraph.co.uk)
        PM Blair says he agrees "with every word" ... of Army chief's follow-on
        statements
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6049126.stm
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6046822.stm
2006/10/13 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:44813 Activity:nil
10/13   This goes back to the last Intel cpu release and everyone's #s on
        temps, etc.  Just a reminder that those #s are based on a clean box.
        I just cleaned out a ton of dust and fluff from my case and temps
        dropped about 8F back to about what they were when it was all new.
2006/10/13-14 [Transportation/Car, Transportation/Car/Hybrid] UID:44814 Activity:low
10/13   http://csua.org/u/h74 (AP via http://washingtonpost.com)
        Recent gasoline price drops are like a huge tax cut that give consumers
        nearly $100 billion to spend on other items.  Believes Q3 GDP grew by
        1.8%, but predicts 2.5% rebound for Q4.
        "Wage growth is improving, the stock market is doing well and gasoline
        prices are down. All of this is very good news for the consumer."
        -Global Insight chief economist
        \_ You know what would be an actual tax cut? Eliminate all payroll
           taxes and instead tax on the basis of pollution. Sure, your gas
           prices would go up, but we'd still be paying less than the Europeans
           and working class families would have enough money to afford health
           insurance.
           \_ And birdies would sing everywhere!
           \_ the problem with this is it encourages illicit pollution.  e.g.
              Tax on garbage collection => illegal dumping
              \_ Imagine the amount of monitoring we could do with all the
                 resources shifted from the IRS. Think of the fines we could
                 collect!
2006/10/13-16 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:44815 Activity:kinda low
10/13   Air America files for bankruptcy:
        http://tinyurl.com/ydmfdx (cnn.com)
        \_ From Sep 14: "If Air America had filed for bankruptcy every time
           someone rumored it to be doing so, we would have ceased to exist
           long ago," Jaime Horn, a spokeswoman for the liberal talk show
           network, said in a statement. "It may be frustrating to some
           that it hasn't happened."
           http://csua.org/u/h76
           \_ Don't let reality kick you in the ass on the way out:
              http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013062airamerica1.html
              Air America ceases to exist.  Thanks for the yucks, AA.
              \_ You misunderstood my post. I was just pointing out that they
                 were denying the bankruptcy rumor as they were preparing to
                 file.
        \_ Liberals don't want to listen to annoying blowhards on talk radio!
           Who'd a thunk it?!
           \_ I think the second part may be more important than the first.
              The portions of AA I've heard were abysmal.  I'd rather put a gun
              in my mouth than listen. -emarkp (And I can't stand Rush,
              Hannity, O'Reilly, or Savage even though I'm conservative.)
              \_ Is there any talk radio, political or not, that you like?
                 \_ Yep. Out of Sacramento, Armstrong & Getty (6-10am) KSTE 650
                    and KNEW 910 and Tom Sullivan (1-4pm) KFBK 1530.  Out of
                    LA, John and Ken (3-7pm) KFI 640 and John Ziegler (7-10pm)
                    also on KFI.  All shows are streamable.  -emarkp
                    \_ Oh, and all the above shows have free podcasts.
                       Nationally I like Glenn Beck.  Podcasts of the other
                       stations:
                       http://www.910knew.com/pages/podcast_podbridge.html
                       http://www.kfbk.com/cc-common/podcast.html
                       http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/podcast.html
              \_ Yes, but the difference is that Hannity, O'Reilly, Savage,
                 etc. apparently have found an audience of conservatives
                 that DO like to listen to annoying blowhards.
                 \_ So I drop my car off for service.  The TV is blissfully off
                    for all of three minutes before a 50-something female
                    customer shows up, turns it on, and starts hunting for the
                    Fox News Channel.  I know because she repeated like 4x
                    "Where's Fox News?  How do I get Fox News on this thing?"
                    Sigh.
                    \_ Fox News: "We don't make idiots, we just entertain them"
                    \_ Liar.  You don't have a car.  You're a conservative
                       troll posing as a well educated and erudite liberal /
                       moderate / normal person.  But we've seen through you.
           \_ Really? Then how do you explain NPR?
              \_ More boring than anything else.  As biased and content free
                 as Fox News, but with the gritty taste of unsweetened bran
                 cereal with skim milk, with some ground up vitamins mixed in,
                 so it feels like news.
                 \_ Um, content-free?  Try actually listening to NPR.
                    \_ No, thanks.  I've heard enough.  I'd rather memorize
                       another 50 digits of pi than listen to NPR. Booooorrrrrr
                       rrrrrriiiiiinnnnnggggggg.  Stupid humor, biased news,
                       poor journalism, shitty music, annoying dull-voiced
                       pompous ass DJs, and non-stop whinning about money
                       in spite of the fact that they're better funded that
                       just about any college station, all of whom provide
                       better content. Fuck NPR.
                    \_ NPR has its moments, but frequently it's extremely
                       pompous and tiresome.  There really isn't much in
                       the way of consistently good, unbiased broadcast
                       radio that I've heard so far, but then again I have
                       a really short attention span.  -John
              \_ O'Reilly and Savage are not the equivalent of NPR, but thanks
                 for trolling anyway.  At least the above poster is even in
                 the same ballpark when he compares it to Fox News.
2006/10/13-16 [Politics/Foreign/Europe, Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity] UID:44816 Activity:moderate
10/13   Elephants cross the US-Mexico border w/ impunity:
        http://tinyurl.com/ykzp8o (brownsvilleherald.com)
        \_ Dirty illegals.  We should take away their welfare and health benefits.
        \_ Dirty illegals.  We should take away their welfare & health benefits.
        \_ Dirty illegals.  We should take away their welfare & health
           benefits.
        \_ Why do you hate elephants?
           \_ Why do you hate America?
              \_ I just hate American elephants.  The Asian and African ones
                 are ok by me.
                 \_ I find Asian elephants to be too small and inscrutable, and
                    prone to forming triads and building nuclear weapons.
                    African elephants are just too violent.  They are very fast
                    and strong, though.
                       \_ But what is up w/ those big ears? Are they using
                          them to eavesdrop on private domestic phone calls?
                    \_ But never the European ones.  So white and monocultural.
                       \_ The Jewish European elephants have really long snouts,
                          though.  And one they grab onto a peanut or banana
                          with that snout, they never, ever let go.
                       \_ The Jewish European elephants have really long
                          snouts, though.  And one they grab onto a peanut
                          or banana with that snout, they never, ever let go.
                          \_ They're all white to me.  --BAMN
2006/10/13-14 [Uncategorized] UID:44817 Activity:nil
10/13   I cannot believe there is a market for novelty toilet paper:
        http://justtoiletpaper.com
2006/10/13-14 [Computer/Networking] UID:44818 Activity:nil
10/13   Singapore to offer Free WiFi:
        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15217453
        \_ "The Straits Times newspaper reported that families that earn less
           than (S$200) a month can purchase a computer for S$285."
           For only 1.5x your _family's_ monthly income...
2006/10/13-16 [Politics/Domestic/California/Arnold, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:44819 Activity:moderate
10/13   Angelides to FCC: Mommy! Mommy! I want to be on Jay Leno too!
        http://tinyurl.com/y6vb69 (news.yahoo.com)
        \_ "To link me with George Bush is like linking me to an Oscar."
           Ouch.  Is the Academy gonna take that one sitting down?
        \_ Even Republicans have to obey the law.
           \_ No we don't.  That's why we stole the election in 2000 and then
              in 2004 we didn't even have one.  Our agents in the media just
              reported various random numbers and gave you something to vent
              about (some close but fake numbers in Ohio after a staged delay
              at the "polls").  These mid term elections will be the same as
              2004 and in 2008 we won't even bother having an election.  What
              would be the point anyway?  All who oppose us will be tried and
              executed: the debate is over.
              \_ The republicans just passed a bill abolishing the writ of
                 habeaus corpus.  All who appose you will be arrested and
                 imprisioned without trial.
           \_ And the republicans are not obeying the law how?
              Sounds more like the Democrats want to stifle Jay
              Leno's free speech right to talk to who ever he
              wants on his own show.
              \_ Did you even read the original post. NBC, which is owned
                 by General Electric, is violating the Federal Communications
                 Act.
                 \_ And republicans are not obeying the law how?
                    NBC may not be obeying the law, BUT how does
                    that equate to republicans not obeying the
                    law?  WRT to my comment that the Democrats
                    are trying to stifle Jay Leno's 1st amend.
                    free spech rights, it stands. The Democrats
                    are trying to twist a advertising law to
                    cover an entertainment show. If Angelides
                    wasn't boring, maybe he would have been
                    invited on.
                    \_ General Electric, which owns NBC, leans heavily GOP:
                       http://www.csua.org/u/h7f
                       They are also a big defence contractor. So their media
                       arm scratches the GOP's back, which in turn kicks back
                       contracts. This is how American politics works.
                       \_ So GE gives money to the GOP and is keeping Angelides
                          off the Leno show in order to keep RINO Ah-nuld in
                          power?  Just curious, have you ever worked for a
                          really large company or for the government?  Mostly
                          there is such chaos and stupidity and amazing levels
                          of paperwork and incompetency they're lucky they can
                          manage to redraw the lines in the parking lot.  Your
                          Grand Conspiracy Vision Thing is silly but amusing.
                          \_ Don't discount the Grand Conspiracy Vision Thing.
                             The same GCVT that is keeping Angelides off of
                             Leno may also be behind the media blackout of the
                             "hundreds" of incidents of violence by "Bush
                             Brownshirts" against dissidents, like that lady
                             in SF.
        \_ If he wasn't so boring he could be on Leno too.
           \_ Why do you hate boring people?
              \_ Why do you hate people who hate boring people?
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