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2006/8/24-26 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus] UID:44122 Activity:nil
8/23    Dear scoped pointer experts. Let's say I turned a regular ptr into
        the following:
        scoped_ptr<MyClass> myObj;
        Now there is a method that is expecting type MyClass* in the argument.
        If I simply pass myObj into that method, it will complain "no
        matching function for call to 'myMethod(scoped_ptr<MyClass>&),
        candidates are: ... myMethod(MyClass*)"
        What's the proper way to pass a scoped pointer? Alternatively I can
        just use the regular ptr and explicitly delete in the destructor,
        but I'm wondering if this can be done. Thanks.
        \_ Uh, can't you do myObj.get() to get the raw pointer?
           http://www.boost.org/libs/smart_ptr/scoped_ptr.htm
2006/8/24 [Uncategorized] UID:44123 Activity:high 66%like:44194
8/24    Nice b&w nekkid gurl photos:  http://7floor.net  -John
        \_ Intercourse: http://7floor.net/inside.php?f=1&p=6
2006/8/24-26 [Science/Space] UID:44124 Activity:kinda low
8/24    Pluto loses planet status.
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5282440.stm  -John
        \_ Why do you hate cartoon dogs?
        \_ That's no moon...
        \_ '"and has cleared the neighbourhood around its orbit."
            Pluto was automatically disqualified because its oblong orbit
            overlaps with Neptune's.' Wouldn't that metric disqualify
            Neptune as well?
            \_ First come first serve.
            \_ You can't have the criteria mean "cleared of all material"
               because no planet would qualify.  The only practical way to
               interpret it is "cleared of all objects of comparable size".
            \_ First come first serve.  Neptune was admitted first.
        \_ They fucked up.  They should have listened to their committee,
           which would have kept pluto and added several more.  Much more
           fun.  --PeterM
           \_ Would you really like it if 10 years from now there are dozens
              of known 'planets'?  It kind of dilutes the meaning of the term.
              \_ What's wrong with "dozens" of known planets?  We can select
                 which we think are important, i.e., all the non-pluton
                 planets, with pluto/charon being notable as the first of
                 the plutons.  --PeterM
                 \_ Apparently you're supposed to call them ice dwarfs.
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_dwarf
                    There are more than dozens. Why should they be planets?
                    They aren't what we traditionally consider planets,
                    at least in terms of size.
                    \_ That's no moon...
        \_ This is just plain stupid.  Sometimes a planet is just a planet.
                    \_ That's no moon...
           \_ So your criteria would be... "We say so."
              \- there was an interesting article about CALTECH PLANET MAN
                 MICHAEL BROWN in a recent NYKer ... he went to UCB for
                 grad school and live in the Berkeley Marina.
              \_ Basically, yes.  It's worked for hundreds of years.
        \_ Pluto's protest group:
           http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/861.gif
2006/8/24 [Consumer/PDA] UID:44125 Activity:nil
8/24    Q:  What do you call a black pilot?
        A:  A pilot, you racist.
        \_ Huh?
2006/8/24 [Uncategorized] UID:44126 Activity:nil
8/24    Just to spite whoever deleted it, http://www.7floor.net .  Nice
        b&w nudie pics.  NSFW.  -John
2006/8/24-25 [Uncategorized/Profanity, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:44127 Activity:nil
8/24    Hey John how did you get around not getting identified by the
        identifier?
        \_ ?  Is this in relation to the tasteful nekkid gurl pics link
           I posted that some prude keeps deleting?  Why would I need to
           get around anything?  I sign all my posts... -John
           \_ Deleting stuff sucks, and deleters are asshole...BUT, maybe you
              should post NSFW stuff when the western hemisphere is not
              stuck at work.
              \_ Uh, I kind of clearly said "naked girls" and "NSFW".  I
                 don't force people to click on links :-)  -John
                 \_ I wasn't implying that people would click on youre NSFW
                    links and then get pissed off.  I was impying that they(we)
                    would sit at our terminals, see your clearly marked NSFW
                    links, not click on them because we're at work, and *then*
                    get pissed off.
                    \_ ...this is the kind of thinking that gets people
                       climbing clocktowers with high powered rifles.
                       \_ Yes.
                       \_ That's why we need to pass the anti-clocktower law.
2006/8/24-28 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:44128 Activity:nil
8/24    Can you get SMART data from a drive in an eSATA enclosure?
        Any recommendation for a PCI SATA card for linux with an external port?
2006/8/24-25 [Uncategorized] UID:44129 Activity:moderate
8/24    It is my belief that John Mark Karr joined the SUPER Adventure Club.
        \_ I think he founded it.
        \_ Is he a member of NAMGLA also?
           \_ You mean NAMBLA?
2006/8/24-25 [Uncategorized] UID:44130 Activity:nil
8/24    Rap is crap. The only reason why white kids listen to rap and
        hip-hop is because they want to fit in.
        \_ Why do you hate capitalism?
        \_ I like hard-hitting beats and dirty lyrics.
2006/8/24-29 [Recreation/Dating] UID:44131 Activity:high
8/27    emarkp, you're as asshole. Just to spite you:
        Nice b&w nekkid gurl photos:  http://7floor.net
        PS "nekkid gurl" means "naked girl", so it is R to X rated.
        \_ Beautiful women, so-so photography. Who is behind that site?
2006/8/24-25 [Computer/HW] UID:44132 Activity:high
8/24    Server naming schemes for the 21st Century:
        \_ A coworker used ex-gf names.
           \_ "We need a new server provisioned"
              "Damn it, and I really liked my current gf, too..."
        \_ Name of room, type of computer, and main use of server, separated
           by underscores?
           \_ How psychotically lame can you get..
              \_ Yeah, imagine how totally lame it would be if IT people
                 valued usefullnes above cuteness.  What a fucking concept.
           \_ kitchen_uwave_pr0n
              \_ kitchen pr0n??  Oh HELL yes!  BRING IT ON!
                 \_ let's just say rotating food won't be the only display
                    option on your microwave anymore
           \_ That's what cnames are for.  (Prefer Culture ship names, myself)
        \_ racial slurs
           \_ how many are there in English?
              whitey
              honkey
              nigger
              kike
              wetback
              spic
              wop
              chink
              nip
              gook
              towelhead
              sandnigger

              nm wikipedia is way ahead of me:
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_slurs
        \_ terrorist organizations
        \_ guilty celebrities who beat the rap
           \- Nick Byram and I came up with Lebanese Factions as an
              OCF Nomenclature Proposal ... we might have been slightly
              short of 20.
        \_ guilty celebrities who beat the rapa
        \_ guilty celebrities who beat the rap
           \_ Go Juice!
        \_ Planet names.  If you have nine servers, sorry, one of them will no
           longer be supported after the next scheduled Automatic Update.
           \_ That's no...oh.
           \_ You can just supplement with fictional planet names. Coruscant
              etc.
        \_ Mountains (tame, management-compatible), drinks, porn stars,
           countries (tame, MC), elements (t, MC), drugs, common words
           off urbandictionary, something vaguely logical (OS, function,
           location code)  -John
                    \- the best names are sort of sui generis. like
                       kim and ernie in old berkeley days. i also thought
                       the central-sparc, gg-sparc names were clever ...
                       my old machine was jurassic-sparc.
                       for the youth: EECS really did have a p0rn star
                       name scheme a while ago. the most bizarre nameing
                       name scheme a while ago. the most bizarre naming
                       scheme i can think of was Cimarron's "system calls
                       common to SysV and BSD" nomenclature. --psb
                       \_ We have a demo server that used to crash much too
                          often.  It's named demolition.
                          \- not http://democratic-party.foo.com?
           \_ Yeah the most logical is boring old sequentially-numbered
              codes involving machine location and type. My company scrapped
              our old "fun" names (the Linux boxes were all something to do
              with cold/winter/penguins, the Suns were things involving
              suns/stars/hot, although we also had fish like halibut, not sure
              what that referenced. But with blade servers they wanted the name
              to tell the location. They are incompetent anyway though.
              \_ The problem with the location in the name is what happens
                 when it moves? I cannot stand names like: sparc34_b202_eng24
        \_ Four-letter words.
           \_ Four-letter dirty words for body parts: cunt, dick, cock, boob.
              What else?
        \_ My first company used element names, and they let the engineers pick
           the elements.  So people usually pick names or symbols that were
           close to their names.
        \_ server location / OS / function and a number.  For sites with
           zillions of non-unique systems.  E.g   sfouxsvr00123
           \_ use DNS delegation properly.    http://uxsvr123.sfo.yourcompany.com
              \_ A "good" naming scheme will use this AND have loc codes
                 in the hostname, so it's also visible in NIS and ADS.  Most
                 sensible name setups use a combination of "logical" names
                 and CNAMEs.  -John
        \_ I kind of like D&D monster names. Lots there to choose from.
        \_ Famous drag queens and transvestites.
        \_ Sci-Fi character names. I still have fond memories of an
           Indigo 2 named jadzia and my dual headed ss10 named zaphod.
           Nobel laureates and fields medalists work too, but they are
           not as much fun.
        \_ For a group of Sun boxes, members of Sun Ra's Arkestra.
        \_ Our sysadmins are currently running though old video game-related
           names for our servers.  My favorite is CongoBongo.
        \_ I tend to name my home machines after Japanese monsters.  Gamera,
           Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra, etc.
        \_ Vegetables
           \_ % finger -m dquayle@potatoe
              finger: unknown host: potatoe
2006/8/24-28 [Computer/Companies/Apple] UID:44133 Activity:nil
8/24    Apple recalls iBook and PowerBook batteries:
        http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml06/06245.html
        \_ So do we now jump on the "smash apple" bandwagon like we did dell?
        \_ URL for ordering an exchange battery:
           http://support.apple.com/batteryprogram
2006/8/24-25 [Uncategorized] UID:44134 Activity:nil
8/24    Weird "Al" has a new song available for download:
        http://www.dontdownloadthissong.com/tracks/DDTS.mp3
        \_ Your quote fu is weak.  Al is his name.
2006/8/24-25 [Uncategorized] UID:44135 Activity:low
8/24    Bryce 5.0 is free till Sept. 6:
        http://www.daz3d.com/program/bryce/bryce5free.php
        \_ Rave fliers will never be the same.
2006/8/24-26 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:44136 Activity:nil
8/24    No HD playback in 32bit Vista:
        http://tinyurl.com/ejyb6 (apcstart.com)
        \_ This is hilarious.  I'd already decided Vista wouldn't be touching
           my desktop because of DRM.  And now they're just making it easier to
           make the decision.
        \_ There might be HD playback in 32bit Vista IF 3d parties provide it:
           http://tinyurl.com/qga2l (news.com.com)
        \_ As above said, you use a third party app just like you currently
           do in XP to play a DVD. HD playback just isn't native. Almost every
           PC or DVD drive sold comes with one of these apps free anyway.
2006/8/24-25 [Uncategorized] UID:44137 Activity:low
8/24    If you're going to use speakerphone, shut your FUCKING door!  Damn.
        \_ are you the child prodigy motd junkie?
           \_ No, I am          -not the op
2006/8/24-25 [Recreation/Media] UID:44138 Activity:low
8/24    Paramount ditches Cruise:
        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14472455
        \_ funny that they blame Cruise's  antics for the failure of MI:3,
           rather than accept the fact that they created a crappy movie. I'm
           surprised they're not blaming internet movie pirates too.
2006/8/24-29 [Recreation/Dating] UID:44139 Activity:nil
8/24    I just deleted all my porn.  Take that, porn!
        \_ porn was made to be deleted
        \_ porn gets old and stale over time.  You periodically need to delete
           it all and go get a fresh batch of new porn.
           \_ Some porn is special. Hide that porn and put it back in
              rotation in a couple months. It's like meeting her all over again
           \_ Savannah commited suicide 12yrs ago, and I still think she's hot.
              \_ who?
                 \_ Stage first name Savannah, no stage last name.  Real name
                    Shannon Michelle Wilsey Longoria.
                    http://www.toyboxxx.com/pornstars/1695.htm
                    Check out Andrew Blake's "Desire".
2006/8/24-28 [Reference/Law/Court] UID:44140 Activity:nil
8/24    Can someone please summarize what the Mesothelioma lawsuit is about
        and why it is such a big deal?
        \_ asbestos + lawsuit money + govt plan to enforce settlementsa
        \_ Nothing. Just another plan for mediocre law school grads to
           try and make a quick buck. They advertise on late-night TV;
           try to make a quick buck. They advertise on late-night TV;
           that should clue you in.
           \_ How do I qualify for it?
2006/8/24-25 [Politics] UID:44141 Activity:low
8/24    I'm a colored man and I've never been outside of the West Coast and
        East Coast. Are the white folks there tolerant of outsiders? Are
        they more racist than Californians?
        \_ Where is there?
           \_ That unspeakable place which is not the East or West Coast I'd
              wager.
                \_ Well, I'd expect Chicago to be pretty non-racist, but
                   Memphis, TN to be pretty racist.  All non-east/non-west
                   is not the same.
                   \_ I've seen plenty of racism right here in the lovely
                      SF Bay Area.  All places have people and people are
                      just what they are.
                      \_ True, but then, I've haven't heard any stories
                      \_ True, but then, I've never heard of any recent stories
                         of people being chained behind a pickup truck and
                         and dragged along the pavement until dead in SF/BA
                         because of skin color.
                         \_ No, just beaten to death b/c (s)he's transgender
                            \_ point.
2006/8/24-26 [Consumer/Audio] UID:44142 Activity:nil
8/24    Some Zune info:
        http://tinyurl.com/etrw5 (ilounge.com)
2006/8/24-26 [Recreation/Food] UID:44143 Activity:nil
8/24    Visting Bombay? Eat at Hitler's Cross:
        http://tinyurl.com/ed3yk (boston.com)
        [ Does this count as a self-Godwin? ]
2006/8/24-26 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:44144 Activity:nil
8/24    Problems w/ Diebold machines in AK primary:
        http://www.adn.com/news/politics/elections/story/8113627p-8006175c.html
2006/8/24-26 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:44145 Activity:nil
8/24    White House Dismisses Third-Term Talk
        http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2006Aug23/0,4670,BushThirdTerm,00.html
2006/8/24-28 [Computer/SW/Editors/Vi, Computer/SW/Unix/WindowManager] UID:44146 Activity:nil
8/24    When I use "screen", the scrollback bars on my xterm and gnome-term
        don't work anymore. Is it possible to make them work under screen?
        \_ They'll sort of work, but not really.  I mean you may have more than
           one window.  Just use screen's builtin scrollback; it's better
           anyway (you can have one per window, tens of thousands of lines and
           best of all it's searchable)  Just hit ^A-Escape then pretty much
           vi controls to move around.  Hit escape again to leave scrollback
           mode.  --dbushong
           \_ Thanks so much! I tried Ctrl-A ESC and could move up and down.
              However vi keys like CTRL-B and CTRL-F don't work
              (page up/down). How do I move up and down? Thanks dave.
              \_ Hmm.  Ctrl-B and Ctrl-F work for me... maybe double check what
                 you have your scrollback set to?  If it's < the size of your
                 window, ^B and ^F obviously wouldn't do anything... Take a
                 look at ~mconst/.screenrc on soda for a bunch of settings with
                 comments.  (Including defscrollback)  --dbushong
           \_ !op, but thank you very much.  I've always heard of screen's
              scrollback feature, but never investigated.  You made it so
              easy!
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