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2006/8/8-11 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:43940 Activity:nil
8/7     BP pisses in America's cheerios:
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060808/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_field_shutdown
        \_ Yeah, well I eat Frosted Flakes, so haha to BP!  Nice try, you
           wankers, but you can't piss on me!  -proud American
2006/8/8-11 [Reference/Religion] UID:43941 Activity:low
8/8     One quarter of the religion of peace in England says it's okay to blow
        people up in subways and busses.
        http://csua.org/u/gn5
        \_ All the bombings of public transportation are clearly the work of
           the oil industry.
        \_ and 1/4 of adult americans think the sun revolves around the
           earth.
     http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_11/005208.php
           link dead but I've seen the pdf in the past.
           http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/seind02/append/c7/at07-10.pdf
           \_ So?  Does that mean they think it's okay to kill random people?
           \_ That doc has all sorts of fun.  Like more high school dropouts
              know that smoking causes lung cancer and can explain what a
              molecule is than high school graduates.
        \_ 47% of Americans believe God created man in his present form within
           the past 10,000 years.
           \_ Hey, nice little red herring.  I like how with an appeal to the
              anti-Christian knee-jerkers you managed to equate a wide spread
              belief among British Muslims that blowing up innocent civilians
              is good the same as Americans believing in God's creation of the
              world.  Because, as we all know, all religious beliefs are
              equally evil, except for Xtians are who much worse of course.
              You earned the troll of the week award and an A+ for this one!
           \_ 47% of Americans are fucking stupid.  Why are more people
              in America religious than in Europe?  I was talking to a guy
              at work who was saying I should be ashamed of myself for
              not believing in god and that I'm going to go to hell and
              that I'm arrogant for not considering Jesus and the bible.
              I mean he's right that I'm arrogant about it, but why can't
              he see that he's similarly arrogant (possibly not as much as
              me actually)?
              \_ Not true.  They think they _know_ GOD?  They think we
                 measly humans share form with GOD?  Who do you think
                 is more arrogant?
              \_ The *average* American is dumber and less educated than the
                 average citizen of any other industrialized nation.  What
                 saves us is that the smartest Americans are smarter than the
                 smartest citizens of any other nation (because they move
                 here.)  Of course if nativist republican fucks have their way,
                 that will no longer be true, and America will fall within
                 a decade.
                 \_ that, and stem-cell research ban AND "intelligent Design"
                    in public education... AND allowing swarm of illegal
                    immigrants to overflood our public school system :D
              \_ obviously you did "consider" Jesus and the bible...
                 I "consider" it mythology.
                 \_ Some I consider my girlfriend, and some I just consider.
                    Like yer mom.
           \_ So?  Does that mean they think it's okay to kill random people?
        \_ "Mr Blair declared: 'I am not the person to go into the Muslim
           community and explain to them that this extreme view is not the true
           face of Islam."  Dude.  The "true face of Islam" isn't what you want
           it to be, it's reflected in how people actually practice it.  And
           they practice it by repressing women and demanding death for
           apostasy.
           \_ what the fuck?  You should go to Malaysia, Indonesia, Qatar, even
              Iran and check it out yourself.  In case of Iran, there are more
              women in their Assembly than US congress :D
        \_ The Daily also says: (http://www.csua.org/u/gn6
           "Britain's most senior Asian policeman yesterday warned that ......"
           "The Ugandan-born police chief, 51, ......"
           Hmm, Uganda is in Asia?
           \- there are a lot of asians[indians] in uganda.
              \_ <DEAD>www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ug.html<DEAD>
                 non-African (European, Asian, Arab) 1%, other 8%
                 \_ Indians & Pakistanis controlled a large proportion of
                    Uganda's commerce before Idi Amin evicted "Asiatics" in the
                    1970s.  -John
                    1970s.  Many fled to the UK.  -John
                    \_ I see.  Thx.
                    \- see also MISSISSIPPI MASALA
                       \_ Denzel beds a hot Indian girl in that movie.  Nice.
                          Once you go black, you never go back!  -black male
        \_ Does anyone have a reference to a poll taken in England that
           supposedly showed that a MAJORITY of Muslims in England would
           like to impose Sharia law on the entire country? I've heard it
           said but never saw the story to back it up ...
        \_ Sadly, the poll question is never given verbatim.  The same poll
           also shows 50% of respondents saying 9/11 was an Israeli-U.S. plot.
           http://csua.org/u/gn9 (channel4.com)
           I'm pretty sure this is the spin machine trying to keep Blair as PM
           for another year
        \_ Sadly, the poll question is never given verbatim.
        \_ 5% of Americans think that George W Bush is the greatest American
           President ever.
           \_ You're damn right we do!!! --proud 5% of Americans
2006/8/8-11 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs] UID:43942 Activity:nil
8/8     My emacs fu is weak.  How do I specify a position offset when I
        start Emacs (windows, not linux)? If I do -g 100x70, it specifies the
        size of the window, but the window starts at the top left
        corner. I don't want it at the top left corner.. Thanks!
        \_ "-g 100x70+xxx+yyy".  Same as running it on X.
           \_ Thanks!
2006/8/8-11 [Uncategorized] UID:43943 Activity:nil
8/8     Another example of a different kind of fake image (the fake caption)
        http://csua.org/u/gn8
        \_ If it ain't porn, I ain't watching it.  -Chest Rockwell
2006/8/8-11 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:43944 Activity:nil
8/8     http://csua.org/u/gna (Fortune via http://cnn.com)
        Review of AMD anti-trust lawsuit against Intel filed last year
2006/8/8-11 [Health, Health/Sleeping] UID:43945 Activity:nil
8/8     http://csua.org/u/gnb (Wash Post)
        One injection of Special K permanently cures 5 of 18 patients of
        depression.  "It is almost like rebooting a computer."
        \_ ... "It is a chemical reboot, and the striking thing is the
           effect lasts for about a __week__" <----
           \_               ~~~~~ <-----
              "Half the patients had a 50 percent decline in depression
              symptoms after two hours, and by the end of the first day, 71
              percent reported a similar improvement. More than a third
              continued to report such a benefit after seven days, and nearly
              a third reported a __complete end of symptoms__." <-----
              \_ 1. It's not clear what the duration of the study was.  A
                    "complete end of symptoms" conclusion might be
                    premature.
                 2. The wording isn't clear.  That last sentence could be
                    interpreted as "a third reported no symptoms
                    (rather than just a 50% decline) after seven days"
                    without indication to its permanence. -!pp
                 \_ what about "a complete end to symptoms" isn't clear to
                    you?  Granted the reporter may be misquoting,
                    misreporting, and/or the researcher may be on crack (as
                    opposed to K), and the extreme claim deserves multiple
                    sourcing.
                    opposed to K), and it is an extreme claim.
                 \_ shrug.  I agree that I'm dubious as to the science or
                    whether the reporter reported it correctly, but I do
                    think that the article does make the extreme claim of
                    a cure for 5 out of 18.
           \_ What?  You expect you never have to reboot a Windoze box again
              after you reboot it once?
              \_ Makes you wonder if the other 13 subjects didn't experience
                 a permanent blue screen of death.
        \_ Ecstasy ROCKS!!!!  Special K RULES!!!! -Jeff Spicoli
2006/8/8-11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:43946 Activity:nil
8/8     As tom pointed out earlier, due to the controversy of putting ads on
        the Berkeley MOTD for non-profit reason on a campus network, the
        experiment will not begin. There is a chance that the entire site
        will be moved off-site, on a non-Berkeley affiliated network. The
        ETA for the site migration will probably be some time this year.
        Until then, no ads will be shown, and the Berkeley MOTD will still
        be served at the same exact same url. Thanks for your patience. -kchang
        \_ tom, if CSUA solicits PayPal payments where PayPal takes a
           2.7% cut in profit, wouldn't such solicitation be questionable
           since commerical businesses are involved?
           \_ I doubt it; the CSUA in that case is paying for a service,
              not advertising a company.  -tom
              \_ tom, when we hold infosessions for companies and they
                 give us free HP Rubix's Cube or free Yahoo shirts, aren't
                 we advertising those corporations in return for toys?
                 \_ Again, a job session is in service of Berkeley students;
                    adwords are not.  But really, don't ask me, ask the
                    policy people; that's all I suggested.  -tom
              \_ Gosh darn it.So  what are other ways CSUA can generate
                 revenues? It would be nice to buy current text books.
                 The ones in our library has mostly useless and outdated
                 books. Extra Xbox games would also be nice.
                 \_ Again, the most effective way to raise money is by begging
                    alumni or threatening to shutdown soda by claiming that
                    the hardware is inadequate to handle heavy loads.
                    Oh wait, that already happened earlier this year when we
                    had a week long simulated shutdown. Good job guys.
                 \_ Bake sale?  I'd just make sure you don't buy texts
                    used in classes--theft...
                 \_ Men of EECS, erotic calender!
                    \_ I'm going to go wash my eyeballs with soap for having
                       read that.
                       \_ The scary part is, it's been done.  (Squelch,
                          circa 1991).  -tom
                          \_ urlP? Curious.
                          \_ September 2000. -gm
                             \_ Maybe they did it twice; the time I'm thinking
                                of was way before Y2K.  thepro was on the
                                cover.  It predated online versions.  -tom
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