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| 2006/7/24-25 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:43767 Activity:nil |
7/24 Israeli Apache helicopter blows up family van fleeing south Lebanon
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/24/world/middleeast/24tyre.html
\_ Don't you get it? Israel *NEVER target any civilians, NEVER
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER. *ALL* civilian casualties in Lebanon,
including 18,000 back in the 1980s, were regretable accident or
collateral damage. Israeli forces are doing EVERYTHING they can
to avoid civilian casualties, such as firing anti-peronnel shell
at UN refugee camp after UAV drone confirmed that it's an UN
compound.
If you doubt any of Israel's claim, then, you are a symphathiser
of Hamas / Hezbollah... wait... that means entire UN staff should
be treated as terrorist organization.
\_ Yes! There are no accidents! Ever trigger pull is
\_ Yes! There are no accidents! Every trigger pull is
personally commanded by the elders of Zion!
\_ New York times, you are going to be so dead
-http://www.camera.org
\_ Wow, since 2001 Fox has only been wrong 8 times! This is
certainly a Fair and Balanced[tm] site. |
| 2006/7/24 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:43768 Activity:moderate |
7/24 Tour de France inspired me to lower my handlebar moustache so that
my back would be as flat as possible to reduce drag. Besides,
it makes you look like a pro. Anyone know the rule of thumb
on how many inches below the seat post the handlebar moustache should
be? Thanks.
\_ If you're not riding in the Tour de France, zero. -tom |
| 2006/7/24 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:43769 Activity:nil |
7/24 John Kerry, you are such a hoot! http://csua.org/u/gif \_ If he runs again in 2008, I hope he runs with Lieberman on an Independent ticket. I could use a laugh. |
| 2006/7/24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Recreation/Media] UID:43770 Activity:kinda low |
7/24 The Internet is for Porn (Sort of SFW)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5430343841227974645 -John
\_ I just wasted a minute of my life.
\_ 3 minutes, if you watched the entire thing.
\_ Sorry for forcing you. -John
\_ Oh! No, no, I enjoyed it. -!pp
\_ I only made it through a minute of it.
\_ Ditto. It was interesting for about 30 seconds. It is
\_ Ditto. It was interesting for about 30 minutes. It is
not bad, has a lot of potential to be better. |
| 2006/7/24-28 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:43771 Activity:low |
7/24 I got a problem and I need you guys' advice on how to help without
myself being locked up in Cuba somewhere. Hezbollah runs a lot of
hospitals, bomb shelterss and other Humanitarian organization.
Right now, there are about 600,000 accused terrorist being displaced
by Israeli forces. 200,000 of them are already fled to Syria, which
is not a wealthy nation at first place and its subject to US economic
embargo since 2003. If I want to help those what I call refugees
(jews [ed. Israelis] probably would disagree), where can I send money to without
being accused of providing material support to Terrorist / Terrorist
Organization? I don't think International Redcross has a strong
presence there. Thanks
\_ You were sounding reasonable up to the anti-Jewish remark. Now
I'm going to log your entry and report you to DHS.
\_ Medecins Sans Frontieres is my suggestion--they're generally
politically neutral and do good work. http://www.msf.org -John
\- i believe the RedCross/Crescent is interested in going to
south lebanon, but israel has refused to "guarantee" safe
passage, but they have been willing to notify hizbolla
if the RC wants to head down. in this case i dunno if there
is really a difference between "guarantee safe passage"
and a cease fire. i dont believe israel is saying "we will
physicallyt block you from going in" but saying "you take
physically block you from going in" but saying "you take
your chances".
\_ A lot of people take issue with the RC for its perceived
"hands-off" approach. -John
\_ http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/07/25/MNGJCK4N0A1.DTL
\_ http://csua.org/u/gj5 (sfgate.com)
How hands-off should they be?
\_ Don't ask me, I don't know. However, the RC does not,
as a matter of policy, publicize its findings from
prisoner camps, that sort of thing. They do
provide ambulance and emergency care services, which
is a Good Thing, I wasn't thinking of that. -John
\- wow. has israel claimed that was a mistake
or "we're not going to make exceptions for
trucks that say Red *"? i can see they may
believe some civilians are helping Hizbolla
on the sly by playing a covert military role
but surely they arent saying the RC is helping
Hizbolla.
\_ If it was a mistake, it was a pretty deliberate one.
According to the red cross personel, they made a
second pass to take out the second ambulance. Did
you see the pic in the article? Dead center on the
cross. That's pulitzer material...
\_ Why not? They helped the PLO last time.
\_ Dude, that's a serious charge. Please provide a
URL. TIA.
\_ It isn't a "charge". It is historical fact.
The RC showed up in ships to take the PLO to
Tunis. It wasn't a secret. It was broadcast
around the world. I still recall seeing the
PLO thugs firing guns in the air in
celebration of the RC rescuing them from the
Israeli army. I believe that's why the first
thing the Israelis did this time was establish
a navy blockade and bomb the bridges and roads
to Syria. It wasn't about keeping their
soldiers from being taken out of Lebanon, but
to prevent escape for Hezbollah thugs the way
they made a mistake with the PLO.
\_ An "historical" "fact" that no one here has
ever heard. Provide. A. Link.
\_ Sorry you can't remember but that doesn't
make me a liar. It just means that you
can't remember. From the Washington Post
archives:
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost_historical/access/125498852.html?dids=125498852&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS&fmac=&date=Aug+31%2C+1982&author=By+Andriana+Ierodiaconou+Special+to+The+Washington+Post&desc=Greece+Welcomes+Wounded+Palestinian+Guerrillas
And here's one for the gun fire I said
I remembered:
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost_historical/access/127698492.html?dids=127698492:127698492&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:AI&fmac=&date=Aug+22%2C+1982&author=By+Leon+Dash+Washington+Post+Foreign+Service&desc=400+Arrive+In+Cyprus
\_ First, thank you for posting the links
as I requested. However, apart from
these two articles in the Washington
Post, I can't seem to find any other
context for this. Why did the RC
evacuate the PLO guerillas? Can you
provide a link with historical
context? This is fascinating, but in
and of itself demonstrates nothing.
\_ Oh, come on. You have any idea how
long it took to find an obscure
reference to a pre-web story? All
the content from that time is
behind for-pay links, but along
the way I was wading through
literally hundreds of pages that
described the entire war in
tedious detail from all
perspectives using such uncommon
search terms as "beirut", "plo",
"red cross", and "1982". The
wikipedia entry posted below has a
very limited but not entirely
untrue version of events since
you're incapable of performing the
most basic search, I suggest you
start there, but in no way does
the story end there. That's the
super cliff notes version of
events. If you really care you'll
go do your own reading.
\_ Thanks for the bile. I already
answered myself in the post
below.
\_ Bile? Sensitive much?
\_ After all that, you're
asking me?
\_ After all what? Its
not my fault you're a
lazy ass and I called
you on it. That isnt
bile, that's truth. Get
a thicker skin. The
truth shouldnt hurt
so much.
you on it while also
suggesting you do some
real research if you
actually want to know
what happened in Beirut
in 1982.
\_ Niggah, please. I
googled the terms in
your archived WP
story and got bupkis
so I politely asked
for more info. Then
I found and posted
the info below. Then
you accused me of
not doing research.
So I informed you
that I had. So now,
you know that I know
that your statement
implying that the RC
was aiding PLO was
grossly overstated.
\_ And now, the rest of the story:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Lebanon_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
Although not specified here, it
appears that the the Red Cross
transported the PLO to Tunis at the
request of Americans, the French,
and the Italians, not simply as a
favor to the PLO. |
| 2006/7/24 [Recreation/Dating] UID:43772 Activity:moderate |
6/24 Hi I'm a virgin geek troller and I am desperate to get laid.
I want to act gay so that girls would go ga-ga at me. Are
there books out there that'll teach me how to act flamingly
gay? If I can be as metrosexually gay as possible I should be
able to get laid ASAP, based on what you guys said.
\_ Try sucking cock.
\_ Enough to grind your prostrate into the seat, ensuring you
never breed.
\_ Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills. |
| 2006/7/24-27 [Health/Disease/General] UID:43773 Activity:nil |
7/24 Is it just me or it seems like hard core bikers look as if they
have cancer:
http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/photo?slug=getty-cycling-tdf2006-landis_3_00_02_pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/photo?slug=getty-cycling-tdf2006-rasmussen_2_29_46_pm |
| 2006/7/24-27 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:43774 Activity:nil |
7/24 Bikes worse for the environment than cars
http://opim.wharton.upenn.edu/~ulrich/documents/ulrich-cycling-enviro-jul06.pdf
DRIVE CAR!!!!!
\_ Yeah, but all those male bikers will become impotent,
leading to lower population, which in turn leads to lower
resource usage by human race. Aha! You know what they
say, you counter a stupid argument with another stupid
argument.
\_ "... energy savings due to the use of human power for
transportation may be offset by the increased energy used by
living longer due to better health."
Ah yes. I guess one can also argue that smoking is GOOD because
it reduces the lifespan drastically thus reducing the need
for prolonged medical treatments associated with natural aging.
In fact, ATOMIC BOMB is good for mankind because it reduces
the number of population that will pollute. Ok I get it. Thanks.
\_ DROP ATOMIC BOMB!!!!!
\_ Smoking is not good for any reason, it's just so goood... -John
\_ Do they account for the higher likelihood of bikers dying
when they get run over by cars?
\_ I'd rather die on a bike than live in a car. Seriously.
\_ Well, get to it man! We don't have all day!
\_ 1) They don't have a higher likelihood of dying in an
accident than drivers (per exposure hour).
2) Read the paper. -tom
\_ Until we kill all the people, the world will be unsafe from further
human inflicted harm. |
| 2006/7/24-27 [Consumer/Camera] UID:43775 Activity:nil |
7/24 http://tinyurl.com/kp3bq (yahoo.com) Floating artwork which people can walk through comes free from moorings, rises 30 feet, flips upside down, and tosses out occupants including children, killing two and injuring 13. \_ This kind of thing is clearly good for the environment, especially when it kills lots of children before they can pollute. \_ And before they can create more children who will then pollute |
| 2006/7/24-25 [Transportation/Car] UID:43776 Activity:nil |
7/24 http://csua.org/u/gik (Wash Post) Israeli Apache helicopters beat back terrorism "Israeli forces repeatedly struck cars on southern Lebanon's already perilous roads in attacks that victims said were indiscriminate" \_ Q: How can you shoot women or children? A: Easy! Ya just don't lead 'em so much! Ain't war hell? \_ And that's the problem with Jews today: Bad aim! If the victims of helicopter attacks were able to give interviews after the attacks, the Israeli air force needs to send those gunners back to training! |
| 2006/7/24-26 [Transportation/Bicycle] UID:43777 Activity:nil |
7/24 http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=168947466&size=l What is this picture suppose to be? \_ The invisible tree bicycle lynching man. -John \_ Migrant bicycle farmer. Crappy crop. -scottyg \_ Angry SUV drivers hanging bicycles. -kchang \_ The bicycle scarecrow. -ausman |
| 2006/7/24-27 [Transportation/Car] UID:43778 Activity:nil |
7/24 Looking for a free site that'll tell you whether the vehicle has
a clear title or not. If not free, then looking for the cheapest
site. Thanks.
\_ http://carfax.com? I've never tried it though.
\_ If you're shopping for a car, get the Unlimited number of reports
for 50% more. It's worth the peace of mind, and avoiding a lemon. |
| 2006/7/24-27 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:43779 Activity:nil |
7/24 http://news.com.com/Microsoft+vs.+Google+Whos+greener/2100-1022_3-6080297.html Microsoft vs. Google: Who's greener? \_ Hitler vs. Gandhi: who's the better vegetarian? \_ Silly question, do solar panels generate more power when it is hot? Or does it only depends on a clear sky? \_ I assume you mean photovoltaic panels. Yes, it's a silly question. \_ Increased temperature inversely affects the voltage output. \_ Both are huge evil corporations. Who cares? |
| 2006/7/24-26 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan, Science/GlobalWarming] UID:43780 Activity:nil |
7/24 Kill you BOINC processes to avoid rolling blackouts. Better yet, power
off you machines and monitors when leaving work. Cuts back on both the
power to run the machine and the power to run the A/C to cool the room.
\_ By the time you leave work, the power crisis is over.
\_ By the time you've figured out how to solve the crisis,
the problem is no longer there.
\_ Not everybody stays at work till 7pm when peak hour ends.
\_ Leave the letter '' out of you sentences to save powe.
\_ Nuclear power would have solved this. The commie Frogs use it
extensively, so do the Japanese. How can they do it and we can't?
Because they standardize their plants. I say, grab some old
Navy ships with nuclear reactors and have those badboys working
again.
\_ Their citizenry also doesn't have as much power to say "NIMBY!"
Well, then again, post New Lincoln... who knows?
Well, then again, post-Kelo... who knows?
\_ There's a huge NIMBY movement in Japan, which is why the
reactors are in neighborhoods with less vocal residents (i.e.,
villages where people value the economic benefits more than
they fear the risks).
\_ In purely cynical terms it makes more sense to put a
potentially city destroying power plant in a less populated
area.
\_ s/cynical/practical/ |
| 2006/7/24-28 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:43781 Activity:nil |
7/24 http://csua.org/u/gin (amd.com) AMD releases new price list, effective today FYI, Conroe is launching Thursday, but it's unclear when inventory can satisfy demand, especially for the E6600 "sweet spot". \_ I want the E6600, bitch, hands off! It's the nerd equivalent of "tickle-me-Elmo" \_ No! It's MY processor!!! Seriously though, does anyone know from experience if Fry's tends to get a good allocation of new CPUs early at a fair price? \_ I needed a new computer 6 months ago so I bought an AMD 4400+. I game but don't program or do anything heavy calculations on it I game but don't program or do any heavy calculations on it and it runs great. Just curious: what are the E6600 buyers planning to do with your snazzy new cpu? An E6600 wouldn't run my very piggy games any faster. \_ Presuming you are CPU bound and not GPU bound, yes it would. The E6600 is benching slightly faster than an A64x2 5000 in most games. \_ I'm neither. I've seen the artificial benchmarks. I'm wondering what other people plan to do with their new toy. \_ But most real world gaming situations will be GPU limited. People with high end machines will tend to push the graphics to higher resolutions and such, something the CPU benchmarks don't show. I'm not too excited about Conroe because it won't make much difference in my usage. I like how they triggered a price war though. I heard Intel is sitting on a giant stockpile of Netburst-era processors. I wonder how much they will lose on that. This article is kinda silly but makes a point: http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTEwOCwsLGhlbnRodXNpYXN0 \_ The 4MB of shared L2 cache significantly improves execution time on things like zipping files and encoding audio/video. I expect compile time improvements to be similar, although I haven't seen any compile-time benches yet. Performance per watt is also outstanding. All that's left is if Intel can crank out these E6600 parts in sufficient quantity without going bust and any weird stability / compatibility issues. \_ Well they're definitely going to take a loss on the Great Netburst Fire Sale of '06, but it's not going to ruin the company. Agreed that Core2 availability is an important question. An awful lot of volume goes on in sub-$100 CPUs and it will be interesting to see how much cheap Netbursts can stymie low-end A64s and Semprons. \_ News update: Fry's pricing on E6600 is $379. Not yet in stock. |
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