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| 2006/6/22-26 [Recreation/Sports] UID:43458 Activity:nil |
6/22 Can someone explain to a non-soccer fanatic what's so great about
soccer? Is this just one of those things you had to grow up with?
\_ telnet <DEAD>diego.ascii-wm.net<DEAD> 2006
\_ when's the next match?
\_ It's just another pastime for those whose own lives are devoid
of any interest.
\_ Honestly, it's hard to say. For some people, the back-and-forth
is everything; for me, it's the pressure in the last 15 minutes of
a game. Also, the World Cup is fascinating to me because of the
long game: you can lose one match and yet still qualify for the
next round. --erikred
\_ I like the crazy stuff people have to do the get goals. I
can't understand NBA basketball. Run to one side of the court,
dunk. Run to other size, dunk. Run back... booring.
\_ It's more civilized and technical than the stupid
American Football. -troll
\_ Ah, young troll -- you forget where you're posting. Train
harder, grasshopper.
\_ You know the "kung fu speak" is really a tiresome cliche now.
\_ You know the "kung fu speak" is really tiresome now.
\_ Keep trying. Someday it'll work for you.
\_ *ANY* sport is a culture thing. I didn't found of American football
when I came to USA. |
| 2006/6/22-26 [Uncategorized] UID:43459 Activity:nil |
6/22 Yes, you can find the results of the latest matches at fifa.yahoo,
but I've got an updated pdf of the BBC wallchart at:
http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~erikred/wallchart.pdf
(Bumped for updates.) |
| 2006/6/22-26 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Taiwan] UID:43460 Activity:nil |
6/22 http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20060622/cm_csm/yhsiang Democracy also means lots of corruption. \_ Hi troll. Democracy doesn't cause corruption. Democracy makes it more likely corruption will be publicly revealed and stopped. \_ Yes, the glorious PRC is completely free of all governmental corruption!... and athlete's foot. All Hail ChiCom! \_ I thought the only way you could get anything done in China, period, is to either grease gov't palms or have relatives \_ I think the period goes at the end, but YMMV. in positions of power. Is this not true? \_ majority of the country works like that, son. There are about 110+ countries outside the G8. |
| 2006/6/22-26 [Reference/History, Politics/Domestic] UID:43461 Activity:nil |
6/22 Is the phenomenon of the American suburban expansion an example of
free-market at work, where the build-wherever-you-can-find-land
methodology is used commonly used by most developers today? Whatever
happened to centralized city planning, is that a thing in the past?
\_ what are you thinking? American suburb is result of our Federal
government policy of subsiding road constructions.
\_ At least in my town, the city council has made almost any new
building illegal. The result is, build where you can find
land. Of course, supply does not match demand.
\_ Which is one of the causes of skyrocketing housing prices in
certain areas.
\_ It's worth pointing out that, in my town, the City
Council members all own property.
\_ You mean like in Orange County? You want to live in Irvine if
you want strict city planning and control. I don't think you'll
like the result.
\_ Is many cases, the suburban expansion was accelerated by the
federally funded interstate highways. |
| 2006/6/22-26 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan] UID:43462 Activity:nil |
6/22 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060622/od_nm/life_sex_dc Well, there's your problem! \_ This line is great: "Demographers say a rate of 2.1 [children born per woman lifetime] is needed to keep a population from declining." Reuters apparently needs to invoke the authority of "demographers" to confirm simple arithmetic. \_ Simple arithmetic would suggest you need 2.0BPW. The variable rates of infant mortality and gender ratio at birth are why you ask a demographer. \_ Point taken. I think I found it so silly because the fertility rate in Japan is listed in the article as bein 1.25, which is obviously a declining population. \_ Theoretically you could have a stable population if the gender ratio at birth was M:F 20:80 \_ Or probably even 1:99. \_ Well I meant "given 1.25 BPW". Let's not go overboard on male fantasies, OK ;-) -pp \_ I keep wondering though, isn't it about the time when we should instead start worrying about stabilizing the population and adjusting our economies to the new demographics? Growing population numbers, even without considering the on-going economic growth and quality of life improvements, place even greater demands upon the natural resources and the environment. Do we even know for how long will this planet sustain the current living standards for 6B people? What about the projected 10B people at the end of this century? \_ Well, duh. That's why we're teaching the world about abstinence! \_ Who is this "we" that is going to stabilize the population? Who decides who is allowed to breed or not and how many times? And a quick look at demographics of any wealthy vs. any poor nation (excluding the few being wiped out by AIDS) will show that rich nations have declining birth rates while poor ones have very high rates. So, the best way to reduce population is to improve the standard of living in poor countries. As \_ Correlation is not causation. And the rest of this post is beyond silly. \_ If you've got nothing to say, say nothing. If it is silly then shoot it down in a sentence or two, but I'm sure you haven't done any research or reading on this so not only will you not, you can't. \_ Wow. Midday margaritas make for bad motd'ing. I totally conflated your comments with the above poster in replying. Sorry. Nuked my pointless drivel. However, the silver bullet is not simply wealth (ergo the correlation/causation) but education (which comes along with higher SoL). \_ That's fine. I'll agree education = higher SOL but that will not come without the wealth to support it which requires a real economy, not one based on charity. soon as we stop flooding them with money, they'll have a chance to form real economies with real products and real workers and engage in trade with other countries. Right now the West has destroyed the ability of poor nations to grow healthy economies instead of "Charity Based Economies" where there is a disincentive for the local population to do anything productive. \_ Blasphemy! Every new child is a gift. "Be fruitful..." Eventually people will fight each other or starve and it will be a happy equilibrium. The world can physically support many more. We must keep going until it's literally impossible to support more. After all, whose life would you deny, just to make your life better? Even bringing up population control shows that you are sick. |
| 2006/6/22-26 [Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity, Politics/Domestic/California] UID:43463 Activity:nil |
6/22 Interesting clause by clause comparison of the US constitution to
the Confedercy constitution.
http://www.filibustercartoons.com/CSA.htm
\_ "call a spade a spade." The comparison is interesting but his
comments are sometimes ridiculous. |
| 2006/6/22-26 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:43464 Activity:nil |
6/22 How do I make rsync exclude any directory containing
a file named NOBACKUP ?
\_ see --exclude in the man page. and really you should have been
able to find this yourself.
\_ I did read the man page. I really don't think it's that simple.
I can easily exclude a DIRECTORY named 'NOBACKUP'.
I can exclude a file named 'NOBACKUP'. I don't see
an easy way to exclude all files in a directory
that contains a file named 'NOBACKUP'
\_ That's a bit more complex. You will need to write a find script\
to generate a list of files, and exclude from taht list all
\_ That's a bit more complex. You will need to write a find scripti
to generate a list of files, and exclude from taht list all
files that meet your criteria. Then have rsync use rsync's
--files-from= option. That or make a exclusions list
(Again with a find script) and use the --exclude-from option.
\_ I want this feature too, maybe we should add it. |
| 2006/6/22-26 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:43465 Activity:nil |
6/22 http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32566 Intel hosts LAN party on Arizona campus. 60% bring AMD computers, 37% bring Intel. \_ Semi-related factoid: The Windows Startup sound was created on an Apple Macintosh. |
| 2006/6/22-26 [Reference/Religion] UID:43466 Activity:nil |
6/22 "Keeping out the Christians"
http://www.educationnext.org/20063/50.html
UC rejecting evangelical High School curricula on the most
contrived of grounds.
\_ Those grounds being "you're not teaching science".
\_ The Hoover Institution is Dubya's west-coast "brain trust".
\_ The same "contrived" grounds would preclude automatic admission of
students who attended a FSM school. The real victims here are the
students who have been used by Christian schools to spark an
argument over UC's standards.
\_ Disqualifying a book based on the quotes it uses to start
\_ Disqualifying a book based on the quotes it begins to start
chapters? Sorry, that's just contrived, even if they were
FSM quotes.
\_ Physics textbooks containing Biblical quotes? If we allow
that, what's to prevent us from having quotes saying God
defined the universal constants? I propose a Constitutional
amendment defining science as driven by testable hypotheses,
to the exclusion of religion that does not have testable
hypotheses.
\_ This is a troll, right?
\_ Verses as headers are not a reason to reject a text, but
they were mentioned in an interview w/ someone that, IIRC,
wasn't even involved in the decision, so this is really a
red herring.
\_ I like how the chart midway down doesn't compre Christian Private
\_ I like how the chart midway down doesn't compare Christian Private
to Secular Private schools, it compares Christian to Public.
\_ What do you think the comparison would show? What would it
prove? How would that affect UC's decision? |
| 2006/6/22-26 [Computer/SW/Editors/Vi] UID:43467 Activity:nil |
6/22 New vi macro:
map \ lBmz"zcEx1GO'"zPI/home/dbushong/bin/csua-shortcut '!!/bin/sh"zy$dd`z"zphx
Now you can just hit \ while anywhere (except the last char) over a URL,
and it will replace it with: http://csua.org/u/XYZ (domain.com)
Bugs to --dbushong |
| 2006/6/22-29 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:43468 Activity:nil |
6/22 http://mediamatters.org/items/200606200008 O'Reilly on his radio show, describing how he would stabilize Iraq: "President O'Reilly, curfew in Ramadi, 7 o'clock at night. You're on the street, you're dead. I shoot you right between the eyes. OK? That's how I'd run that country -- just like Saddam ran it. Saddam didn't have explosions. He didn't have bombers, did he? ... you have to have that for a few months to stabilize the situation so the Iraqi government can get organized, can get security in place and get the structure going." \_ Ah, the right finally reveals its true colors: brownshirt. \_ O'Reilly isn't "the right". \_ So the WMD reason for going to war: kaput. The "we'll be rich off oil" reason: kaput. And now "we'll liberate the people": kaput. So why does papa bear say this is a good war again? \_ So what do you think of the recent partially released document revealing hundreds of wmd loaded shells were found mixed in with standard shells? I don't recall anyone saying we'd be rich off Iraqi oil. O'Reilly doesn't speak for the government. So, what are you talking about? More bashing on some random entertainer? Now if there was an actual elected official or highly placed appointee who said these things there'd be something to talk about. \_ The Iraq Survey Group, sent to Iraq by the administration in 2003, said "While a small number of old, abandoned chemical munitions have been discovered, ISG judges that Iraq unilaterally destroyed its undeclared chemical weapons stockpile in 1991. There are no credible Indications that Baghdad resumed production of chemical munitions thereafter." Looks like the crap Santorium is talking about is the above. Anonymous motd pundit, how can you take anything Santorum says seriously? \_ This outlandish claim by Santorum et al has been widely debunked and disowned. The shells we have found were highly degraded and dated back to pre-'91 times (read Iran-Iraq war). As for rich off iraqi oil, we were told repeatedly that this war would cost next to nothing, and that oil revenues would cover the nominal cost: Iran-Iraq war. Y'know, the ones that we sold them?). As for rich off iraqi oil, we were told repeatedly that this war would cost next to nothing, and that oil revenues would cover the nominal cost: http://www.house.gov/schakowsky/iraqquotes_web.htm \_ Missing point. This was a small part of a larger report he wants declassified. It isn't about 500 old shells, it is about "why are we not getting the rest of the report if there's nothing in it"? Santorum's claim is that there is more in the report we're not being told about. How can you know if there's anything more if the report remains classified? \_ Of course I can't know. But I do know Santorum is a sanctimonious, mendacious fool, and this doesn't pass the smell test. \_ Wait, are you suggesting that the Bush Admin is holding back evidence of WMD in Iraq? Why? What purpose would that serve? \_ Show me a report on the web that doesn't include a freeper URL. \_ So it was only discussed in an open session in Congress but it isn't true unless you see it on the web? Ooook. \_ Please. They discussed whether TWA800 was shot down by missiles in an open session in Congress. If you have docs, produce them. \_ So now you claim there was no such document much less the unclassified summary document? There were no shells at all? You're the only person I've seen to dispute that. What do you base that belief on? \_ You have yet to provide me with a non-freeper url linking to this report. Please to be doing so. \_ How strange. It wasn't that long ago (last week) that saying, "I read it on the net, it must be true" was considered sarcasm. And what does the freepers have to do with it? Everyone who disagree with you is not automatically your opposite number. I've read the freeper site exactly once. I'll bet you're a more avid freeper visitor than I am. \_ Was there a sale on red herrings? I'm asking for a source for op's point. A published, paper source would be fine, but op and I don't meet in RL, so there's no chance of that; I'll settle for a URL that is not freeper-based. If you can't provide it, say so. The Dem below found it, and further found that it was already debunked. And no, I don't visit freeper. That tree's already poisoned, so why test the fruit? \_ No red herrings here. You keep ignoring the point: WMD were found. They were supposed to have been destroyed. All of them. Not just from post GWI. Why would you not want to see a full accounting of everything found in Iraq? That's what the full document is. The point you studiously ignore is that Santorum wants the whole document released. The age or count of 500 shells is not the issue. It is in fact, a red herring. \_ See the URL below, then compare with this report from the Iraq Survey Group Final report: http://csua.org/u/ga6 Cf. also with Bush's admission that the WMDs we had been led to believe were in Iraq were not there. The red herring to which I refer is your attempt to derail my call for a source with a non sequitur about believing things you read on the Internet. \_ geez, it isn't that hard -Dem link:csua.org/u/ga0 (santorum.senate.gov) basically these weren't the WMDs the U.S. went to war for. \_ Thank you. -pp \_ Does O'Reilly say it was/is good? He says we have to stay and win, but that's not the same thing. \_ As a liberal, I could agree that we've fucked it all up and that we shouldn't leave Iraq until there is some semblance of order. Also I want everyone who is part of this build up to invade Iraq to lose everything politically, financially, and physically, but that is not going to happen. \_ This is where the division among liberals comes in. There are many, myself included, don't think there is anyway we can restore order unless we reinstate the draft and flood Iraq with literally millions pairs of boots on the ground. \_ Whoa there cowboy! I thought dogma stated that the only answer was to *reduce* the number of American feet on the ground so the natives would have less to be upset about, now you're talking about a draft to put millions of people there who definitely don't want to be there? The correct answer is to reduce American troop count as Iraqi troop count and skill level goes up until they can deal with it on their own. I see no reason why Iraqis can't restore their own order given a fair chance which neither fleeing nor flooding will provide. \_ Given a level playing field and a restart of the clock, I agree that the Iraqis have a good chance of restoring order. I'm not convinced that they have that level playing field or the time required. That said, "dogma" is not something I would even begin to entertain in an environment as richly complex as Iraq. -!pp \_ So after the Iraqi government pulls the local militia types into the government, you think the foreign terrorist types will be anything more than pests? They're such psychos they attack other arabs (Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia come to mind) who are now pissed off and helping the West find and kill them. Zarqawi was killed with information from Jordan, for example. \_ "after the Iraqi government pulls the local militia types into the government" may be a lot later than you think. In fact, I hear they've set the date for the 12th of Never. \_ cute but not reality based. pick up a newspaper. talks are on going and have been for a few weeks that we're aware of. \_ Cf. the inclusion of Afghan warlords as "governors" of certain areas of that country and the resurgence of the Taleban (not to mention in-fighting) between the warlords. I agree that there have been talks; I doubt the sanity of including more decentralized paramilitary forces as a solution to the insurgency. \_ The problem is the number of Sunni insurgents is going up as well as the number of Shiite militia. I don't believe we are making any progress in terms of creating "Iraqi" troops (who would fight for Iraq, not a faction). If on the other hand, you say we get out when we think the Sunnis and Shiites come to a power-sharing agreement with an acceptable level of car bombs and death squads, that makes more sense. \_ What is your source for the increasing numbers of insurgents and lack of any progress on the part of the new Iraqi government training their own? \_ EVERYTHING. Don't you get it? We're training Iraqi troops, but they're actually Shiite (police), Sunni (military), or outright insurgents. The goal is to give the Shiites/Sunnis/Kurds enough pieces until there is some kind of status quo, I mean, government. \_ Ok so you have no source. Shrug. I have no problem with you having a particular feeling about it but to come here and say there are more numbers of this or less numbers of that is insufficient to make a real point. I thought you might have actual real numbers for the Iraqi government side at least, which is public info. I don't think the other side does a quarterly public report on their recruiting efforts. \_ Okay, fine. There is no hard data on the number of insurgents, because insurgents by their nature don't want to be found (and eliminated). Most numbers are for hard-core fighters anyway, with the number of sympathizers in some reports going over 200,000 individuals. However, there is a public report delivered quarterly to Congress (google "iraq congressional report") which shows the number of insurgent attacks growing (note the graph doesn't show the ramp-up from March 2003 to April 2004, which would be embarrassing). Is the increase in attacks because the number of insurgents is increasing, or because the number is staying the same or decreasing but they're reacting fiercely because they're in their "last throes"? Who knows. It's my opinion that, while our goal is to create a national Iraqi identity and police/army force, what we're actually doing is feeding each faction until they can get into some sort of status quo, at which point we can significantly reduce the number of troops there. I completely agree that the number of "Iraqi" soldiers and police is increasing. However, it's my opinion that, while our goal is to create a national Iraqi identity and police/army force, what we're actually doing is feeding each faction (Sunni military and Shiite police) until they can get into some sort of status quo, at which point we can significantly reduce the number of troops there. In other words, what I'm doing is clarifying what "as they stand up" really means. |
| 2006/6/22-28 [Uncategorized] UID:43469 Activity:nil |
6/22 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LenbSKbn-U Congresspeople are idiots. I like the one who admitted he couldn't beat Civilization 4. Even on the easy level? Should he be in government? \_ Because clearly videogames are an ideal determinant for fitness in public office. \_ clearly we should raise taxes so they can spend more of the taxpayers money. \_ Absolutely but only the videogames I'm good at. |
| 2006/6/22-28 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:43470 Activity:nil |
6/22 http://media.putfile.com/AOL-Cancellation Guy attempts to cancel AOL account with AOL customer service rep (who sounds like a full-blown American, not outsourced labor). It gets started slowly, but it really builds up half-way in. http://insignificantthoughts.com/page/2 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13447232 \_ It's amusing that he recorded it and posted it online but his experience is dirt common for AOL. I hope no one was actually shocked by this encounter in any way. It took me 5+ minutes to cancel an account a few years ago although the CSR took a different direction she still wouldn't cancel it until I'd told her at least three dozen times I wanted it cancelled. |
| 2006/6/22-28 [Uncategorized] UID:43471 Activity:nil |
6/22 apache temporarily turned off (for an hour or two) until Ed can get
his act together. We apologize for the inconvience! --michener |
| 2006/6/22-29 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:43472 Activity:nil |
6/22 http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32536 "Size of AMD's Dell hook-up set to shock ... AMD will be a big winner come autumn" Inquirer reports it has seen documents in Taipei indicating Dell has placed design orders with several Taiwanese companies for desktop and notebook systems with AMD CPUs. \_ err... you know that AMD is not taking any new order from OEMs because they couldn't meet the demand \_ err... you do know AMD is building fabs, and the one in new york is part of the reason its stock dipped a bit |
| 2006/6/22-28 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Korea] UID:43473 Activity:nil |
6/22 Nice pics from a North Korean vacation.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=82755 |
| 2006/6/22-28 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:43474 Activity:nil |
6/22 Anyone here deploy Linux-based Sun Rays lately? Thin clients
sucked a few years ago, but Sun claims that performance is much
better now. If performance is decent, I'm interested. Lots of
people at work just use their desktops as terminals anyway.
\_ we have a few Sun Ray clients here. They have pretty much just
worked since we set them up.
\_ How is performance?
\_ Fine for clean X apps. Sun's Java Desktop Suite is a dog
regardless of what you run it on. Note that we don't use
them for Linux desktops yet.
\_ i do that all the time for POC purposes. I prefer *LINUX*
over Solaris, against my company's party line, simply because
Linux is still a better desktop OS than Solaris. What kind of
information do you want to know? kngharv
\_ What makes a desktop 'better'? |
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