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2006/6/20-24 [Recreation/Pets] UID:43436 Activity:nil
6/19    Protozoa that infects mice and rats make them attracted to cat odor.
        Reproduces in cats and excreted in cat feces.
        http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/20/science/20toxo.html
        \_ Same organism makes humans more reckless.
        \_ 50% of humans thought to be infected.  Linked to risky behaviour
           in men and promiscuity in women.  France has 88% infection rate.
           Draw your own conclusions.
           \_ Um, ok, so if I'm a lonely virgin geek I have a better chance
              of getting laid in France? If that's true, I'm totally moving
              to France.
        \_ so people who like cats are just suffering from an infection?
2006/6/20-24 [Politics/Foreign/Europe, Recreation/Sports] UID:43437 Activity:nil
6/19    During non-World Cup times, how can I watch international soccer
        games (e.g. european premier leagues)? I don't have satellite,
        nor am I prepared to get it just for this. Thanks.
        \_ You're going to have to go somewhere that does, like a pub.
        \_ Spanish language channels.
           \_ They don't usually show much European soccer.
2006/6/20-24 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:43438 Activity:nil
6/19    Why have the Christians turned against our soldiers?
        http://www.godhatesfags.com/photos/2006/20060607_arkansas.html
        \_ In fairness, looking at Fred Phelps and Westboro Baptist and asking
           why Christians hate US troops is a bit like looking at the Nazis
           and asking why socialists want to exterminate the Jews.
           \_ The Nazis were facist, not socialist.
              \_ Uh what?  You know what socialism is, right?  They were
                 socialists.
                 \_ Uh no they weren't.  Facism and extreme socialism can
                    look simaler, but there are huge differnces.  And just
                    because Nazi had socialism in the name doesn't make them
                    socialists.  Just like calling yourself El Presidente
                    doesn't make your dictatorship a democracy.
                    \_ And Phelps may call himself a Christian, but his
                       actions would paint him otherwise.
                    \_ So in what ways were the Nazis not "extreme socialists"?
                 \_ The Nazis believed in State control of the economy?
                    Really? Also, why did the Nazis kill all the Communists
                    and Socialists the first thing upon seizing power???
                    You historical revisionists always crack me up...
                    \_ Are you saying the Nazi economy was something other
                       than state controlled?  Could a Jewish company owner
                       have done good business in Nazi Germany?  If you don't
                       know that communist != socialists....
                    \_ Ignorant != Revisionist
                    \_ Fascism is a mixture of corporatism and state
                       syndicalism in a highly nationalist context.  It very
                       much postulates a very regimented economic environment
                       whose primary function is to serve state interests.  In
                       this sense it is very similar to socialism, although it
                       generally allows for private ownership of the means of
                       production, as long as these shut up and put up.  Sort
                       of like China today.  -John
                       \_ Since state interests in China = PRC leadership
                          interests these days, it's hard to tell if this is
                          socialism, fascism, or oligarchy.
                          \_ Yes.
2006/6/20-24 [Computer/SW/Mail, Computer/SW/Security] UID:43439 Activity:nil
6/19    I'm leaving the country for a year.  I am thinking of
        getting a Skype number in the United States, and I guess
        if people in the US call it, my Skype client running
        on my computer in the foreign country will receive the call?
        What is wrong with my plan to do this?
nnn     \_ 1. yes.  The only thing wrong with your plan is that as nerdy as
           you are, you may *NOT* be at front of computer all the time.
           After a while, when people couldn't reach you via the Skype
           number, they will STOP calling you.  I recommend you also purchase
           couple SkypeOut credit; and also set up a call-forwarding on your
           SkypeIn number to your local cell phone.  THis way, when you are not
           at the front of computer or your computer is off, calls will
           be forwarded to your cell phone.             kngharv
           \_ No.  You get voicemail with your skypein number.  I'm using
              it (my Swiss cell phone is forwarded to my CH skypein
              number while I'm in Chile.)  When you start your Skype
              client, it tells you you have voicemails.  Works a charm,
              worth the money.  -John
              \_ duh, voicemail come with the SkypeIn number.  My experience
                 is that after a while, people just sick of calling because
                 he/she gets voicemail all the time.  Skype forwarding
                 service would keep people interested in calling this number.
                                                kngharv
                 \_ That wasn't his question.  -John
        \_ 1. yes.  The only thing wrong with your plan is that as nerdy as
           you are, you may *NOT* be at front of computer all the time.
           After a while, when people couldn't reach you via the Skype
           number, they will STOP calling you.  I recommend you also purchase
           couple SkypeOut credit; and also set up a call-forwarding on your
           SkypeIn number to your local cell phone.  THis way, when you are not
           at the front of computer or your computer is off, calls will
           be forwarded to your cell phone.             kngharv
           \_ No.  You get voicemail with your skypein number.  I'm using
              it (my Swiss cell phone is forwarded to my CH skypein
              number while I'm in Chile.)  When you start your Skype
              client, it tells you you have voicemails.  Works a charm,
              worth the money.  -John
              \_ duh, voicemail come with the SkypeIn number.  My experience
                 is that after a while, people just sick of calling because
                 he/she gets voicemail all the time.  Skype forwarding
                 service would keep people interested in calling this number.
                                                kngharv
                 \_ That wasn't his question.  -John
        \_ There are other similar VOIP service.  For example,
           http://voicestick.com offers FREE virtual # anywhere in USA.  It
           can then forward anyone calling that # to anywhere in the
           world.  Of course you pay for the forwarded calls.
2006/6/20-21 [Recreation/Humor] UID:43440 Activity:nil
6/19    What's the "For a good time call xxx-xxxx" meme supposed to be?
        Is it just a joke where you put someone you don't like's phone
        number on a wall?
        \_ Yes, originally bathroom walls.  -John
        \_ 867-5309!
           \_ You probably have to explain that for the youngins
              \_ There is no explain, only google
2006/6/20-24 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:43441 Activity:nil
6/19    Cheney... Fucking Cheney...
        http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/19/D8IBFKU05.html
        "I don't think anybody anticipated the level of violence that
        we've encountered," Cheney said.
        http://www.thememoryhole.org/mil/bushsr-iraq.htm
        "Trying to eliminate Saddam, extending the ground war into an
        occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guideline about not
        changing objectives in midstream, engaging in 'mission creep,'
        and would have incurred incalculable human and political costs.
        ... Had we gone the invasion route, the U.S. could conceivably
        still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would
        have been a dramatically different--and perhaps barren--outcome."
        --George HW Bush
          \_ Note the "changing objectives in the midstream" That was 1991.
             This is now 2006.
             \_ So you're fine with the claim that our problems in Iraq,
                just like the problems in New Orleans, and even 9/11,
                were caused by a failure of imagination?  "I don't think
                anybody anticipated..." has become a sick joke in this first
                part of the 21st century.
                \_ that sentence was late in 20th centry 1991
                   \_ Stupid or trolling?...
                      \_ Uhm....yes?
             \_ Yeah, op should have just included the relevant quote, the
                part after the ellipses, although the first part was entirely
                correct in its own context.
                \_ correct for those who never bother to read any history,
                   and hubris enough to think THIS is different than anything
                   else happened before.
                   \_ what?
                   \_ what? x2
        \_ what a dick
2006/6/20-24 [Transportation/Airplane] UID:43442 Activity:nil
6/20    http://csua.org/u/g7y (latimes.com)
        American Airlines flight from L.A. to Chicago lands without nose gear
        "We were coming in to land and everything was normal, but then they
        started accelerating and we took off again ... I turned around to the
        [flight attendant] in the jump seat next to me and I said to her, 'Is
        that normal?' And she said: 'Everything is going to fine, everything is
        going to be fine.' And that's when I knew everything was not fine."
2006/6/20-24 [Finance/Investment] UID:43443 Activity:nil
6/20    http://www.forbes.com/2006/06/19/intel-0619markets13.html
        I don't get it.  Why does INTC stock stay relatively flat / decline
        after a big brokerage changes the rating from Neutral to Buy, and
        increases the price target from $21 to $23?  All the major indices
        are up too.
        \_ I don't think too many investors care about the ratings. I know
           I don't.
2006/6/20-21 [Uncategorized] UID:43444 Activity:nil
6/20    England and Sweden tie, 2-2
        Paraguay beats Trinidad & Tobago, 2-0
        Germany to face Sweden on Saturday, England to face Ecuador on Sunday
        \_ And then?
        \_ Thanks for ruining it, you ruiner.
           \_ Also, River Tam is made of chocolate.
              \_ Nerrrrrrrrrrrrds!
2006/6/20-24 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:43445 Activity:nil
6/20    I have an MSA20 (a scsi attached raid enclosure) from HP that uses
        SATA disks.  My company is somewhat cheap and I'd like to keep an extra
        disk on hand, but not pay for the nifty drive carrier.  (this way when
        a drive fails, I can just remove it, swap out the disk in the carrier
        and slap it back in without waiting for shipping).  BUT, when I tested
        this it didn't work.  The drives are the exact same model, but there is
        some HP specific printing on the label (and a 4 letter, comma separated
        code, which is different).  I have used dd to insure that the disks are
        have the same bits, but no joy, any of you know what it is that makes
        the HP disk different?  -crebbs
        \_ firmware
        \_ ah the joy of vendor lock-in
        \_ I'm not sure how using HP saves your company money.  There are tons
           of cheapy scsi attached raid boxes out there which will happily
           take any same sized disk to replace a bad drive.
           \_ HP isn't saving the company money.  The product needs to run
              on HP.
              \_ No reason to be tied to HP for storage.  Fine, buy HP for
                 the CPU, but detach CPU/computation from storage wrt vendors
                 \_ You buy HP for the support, and when you buy large, their
                    discounts are deep.  Also, doesn't apply to the MSA, but
                    their EVAs are pretty freakin cool.
                    \_ EVAs are likely way out of the price range for crebbs
                       company.  If they won't buy the right disks they won't
                       buy an EVA.  And yes they're pretty cool.  At least as
                       cool as storage can be, anyway.
                       \_ Why would I want an EVA instead of, say, a Netapp?
                          \_ There's nothing wrong with a Netapp, per se.  Its
                             just that the EVA is 'better'.  I like the EVA
                             architecture better.  Virtual-virtual disks
                             across the whole array with no hot spares doing
                             nothing, the control software is more mature
                             although it does run from a windows box.  In
                             general the EVA is just a more mature and serious
                             product than the Netapp.  I've used the Netapp
                             since before they were anyone.  The EVA is new to
                             me but I prefer it overall.  Of course the EVA
                             will cost a lot more in $/tb but there's a certain
                             amount of "get what you pay for" if you can afford
                             it.  What I don't like about the Netapp is the
                             very patchy way it has developed over time.  New
                             features get jacked in, some hardware level
                             maintenance requires on-site hands but really
                             shouldn't, half the tech problems can be handled
                             by shutting down all the shelves (via big red
                             switch) and powering back up *and not in any
                             other way*.  I wouldn't use Netapp for front line
                             real time 24/7 storage if I could afford better.
        \_ It may not be HP issue, but the drive manufacturer issue.  I've had
           numerous cases where the drives of identical model actually had
           slightly different size(usually by few thousand blocks.)  And if it
           turns out the new drive has smaller # of blocks than the rest of the
           drives, that may be why.
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