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2006/4/25-27 [Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:42822 Activity:nil
4/24    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4941050.stm
        Sun Microsystem's McNealy quits post as head, making it a
        bright day for Sun shareholders, with price rising to
        6% to $5.29 in after-hour trade.
        \_ Big baby finally grows up.
2006/4/25-27 [Uncategorized] UID:42823 Activity:nil
4/24    In the movie "Red Eye", the Russian terrorists used a sophisticated
        optical targetted SAM to shoot into a specific hotel room to
        assassinate a very important man. How much of that SAM capability
        is reality, and how much of the damage is close to reality?
        \_ The guidance system?  Definitely.  The damage?  depends--a lot
           of SAMs have proximity fuses as airplanes are pretty fragile.
           Laser- and optically-guided anything are sort of old hat. -John
        \_ This is really quite stupid, as they easily have used a SSM like
           a TOW to do the same thing.  Those have been around since the
           70's.  -EricM
        \_ This is really quite stupid, as they could easily have used a SSM
           like a TOW to do the same thing.  Those have been around since the
           70's, and carry bigger warheads to boot (designed to take out
           heavily armored targets).  -EricM
2006/4/25-11/12 [Uncategorized] UID:42824 Activity:nil
4/21    Soda crashed sometime between midnight and 9am. Root staff is unsure
        why. The machine was rebooted at 11:58am. Further details...after
        the rest of you hozers are reactivated.
2006/4/25 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:42825 Activity:moderate 80%like:42828
4/24    Renting better than buying, part #1023:
        http://patrick.net/housing/crash.html
        \_ does renting make you bitter like this guy?
        \_ What I love about this guy (and this new stuff hasn't changed it)
           is that AFAICT he assumes that:
           a) home prices will not go up (net) in the next 30 years
           b) rental costs will not go up in the next 30 years
           Both assumptions favor renting over buying.. and are completely
           ridiculous.  Renting certainly has been a win over buying for the
           last year or two... but you don't need these faulty assumptions to
           make it so.
           \_ Tend to agree with you there. --op
           \_ I can't see where he assumes a and b for the next 30 years.
              I haven't read the whole thing (it's pretty long) but he
              never seems to suggest that.  He does suggest it's bad to
              buy right now, but you aren't argueing with that... (He does
              seem to be playing the conspiracy card pretty hard though.)
        \_ Granted this guy's rant makes lots of observations about current
           market conditions, and assumes they will persist for a long time.
           They wont, but the bubble conditions certainly do make a good
           short-term argument for renting.
           An interesting thing about this is that the crash is one of those
           things that won't happen unless lots of people buy the line and
           participate, like a run on a bank.  I can't help but wonder if this
           guy is a bitter landlord.
           \_ I can't see where he assumes these market conditions will
              continue.  I haven't read the whole thing (it's pretty long)
              but he never seems to suggest that.  He does suggest it's
              bad to buy right now, but you aren't argueing with that...
              (He does seem to be playing the conspiracy card pretty hard
              though.)
           \_ I think he's a bitter renter who could have bought a house
              back in 1999, but thought houses were too expensive then.
              He's probably been playing this "Houses are Overvalued" song
              for five years now, and is increasingly angry at the
              opportunity he's missed.  -tom
              \_ followup: a great find!
                 http://tinyurl.com/hzg6p
                 ba.housing posting from Patrick Killelea, September 1998,
                 "couple looking for a house to rent at or under $1900/month."
                   -tom
              \_ Tom, I'm a renter who couldn't afford to buy in '99, and
                 who is only marginally in a position to buy right now, but I
                 agree with him that it is not now a good time to buy a
                 house. --erikred
                 \_ If he were merely saying "now is not a good time to buy
                    a house," I might agree.  But he's making all sorts of
                    fatalistic predictions based on little more than his
                    own conjecture, and mis-reading of statistics and news
                    articles.  -tom
                 \_ The funny thing is most could afford to buy in '99.
                    After all, the market has shot up while the interest
                    rates dropped. So probably, in hindsight, most renters
                    with a job could have bought (with interest-only and/or
                    nothing down loans if need be).
        \_ So I'm not sure _exactly_ how long he's been saying this, but let's
           see: I bought in 2002.  After a few refis, my mtg payment is now
           < what I could rent for for a comparable house.  When you subtract
           < rent for a comparable house.  When you subtract
           mtg int deduction but add taxes but subtract tax deduction but add
           upkeep, yadda yadda it's a bit more, but not much.  But add to that
           that I have a whopping loan at 5.25%, and at the rate things are
           going I'll be beating that with casual investments in a year or two,
           and things look pretty good.
2006/4/25 [Uncategorized] UID:42826 Activity:nil
4/24    Q: How many marxists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
        A: None - the bulb contains within it the seeds of its own revolution.
2006/4/25-5/2 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:42827 Activity:nil
4/25    Dear typical soda male. Do you date Asian women because you
        find them attractive, or because you find Caucasian women
        too bitchy, or a combination of both?
        \_ Your question implies the typical soda male has a lot of
           freedom of choice in the woman market.
           \_ I didn't at berkeley, then i moved east, got an import
              and moved back.  Highly recommended.  Cali bitches are
              spoiled and don't know wtf they want (so how can they
              ever be happy?) - and yes that is by their own admission.
              and yes, i asked more than 1.  Funny thing but when you
              have a gf who is hot, suddenly you can get into honest
              discussions with other women about personality defects.
              \_ I would post "you're a moron," but it would be
                 redundant.  -tom
              \_ I'd post "you're a moron," but it would be redundant.  -tom
                 \_ And so intead you post something doubly redundant?
                 \_ And so instead you post something doubly redundant?
                    -jrleek
              \_ ObRedundancy Removed
        \_ is typical soda male asian or not asian?  does that include
           azn?  anyway, have never dated asian.
           \- Not to get too highbrow on you, but I thought this was a
              pretty funny line from FNIETZSCHE:
                Different sighs. A few men have sighed because their
                women were abducted; most, because no one wanted to
                abduct them. [Human, All-Too-Human, #388]
                abduct them. [Human, All Too Human, #388]
2006/4/25-29 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:42828 Activity:nil 80%like:42825
4/24    Ranting better than buying, part #1023:
        http://patrick.net/housing/crash.html
        \_ does renting make you bitter like this guy?
        \_ What I love about this guy (and this new stuff hasn't changed it)
           is that AFAICT he assumes that:
           a) home prices will not go up (net) in the next 30 years
           b) rental costs will not go up in the next 30 years
           Both assumptions favor renting over buying.. and are completely
           ridiculous.  Renting certainly has been a win over buying for the
           last year or two... but you don't need these faulty assumptions to
           make it so.
           \_ Tend to agree with you there. --op
           \_ I can't see where he assumes a and b for the next 30 years.
              I haven't read the whole thing (it's pretty long) but he
              never seems to suggest that.  He does suggest it's bad to
              buy right now, but you aren't argueing with that... (He does
              seem to be playing the conspiracy card pretty hard though.)
        \_ Granted this guy's rant makes lots of observations about current
           market conditions, and assumes they will persist for a long time.
           They wont, but the bubble conditions certainly do make a good
           short-term argument for renting.
           An interesting thing about this is that the crash is one of those
           things that won't happen unless lots of people buy the line and
           participate, like a run on a bank.  I can't help but wonder if this
           guy is a bitter landlord.
           \_ I think he's a bitter renter who could have bought a house
              back in 1999, but thought houses were too expensive then.
              He's probably been playing this "Houses are Overvalued" song
              for five years now, and is increasingly angry at the
              opportunity he's missed.  -tom
              \_ followup: a great find!
                 http://tinyurl.com/hzg6p
                 ba.housing posting from Patrick Killelea, September 1998,
                 "couple looking for a house to rent at or under $1900/month."
                   -tom
              \_ Tom, I'm a renter who couldn't afford to buy in '99, and
                 who is only marginally in a position to buy right now, but I
                 agree with him that it is not now a good time to buy a
                 house. --erikred
                 \_ If he were merely saying "now is not a good time to buy
                    a house," I might agree.  But he's making all sorts of
                    fatalistic predictions based on little more than his
                    own conjecture, and mis-reading of statistics and news
                    articles.  -tom
                    \_ Clarification: I agree with him that now is not the
                       time to buy. The rest is suspect. --erikred
                 \_ The funny thing is most could afford to buy in '99.
                    After all, the market has shot up while the interest
                    rates dropped. So probably, in hindsight, most renters
                    with a job could have bought (with interest-only and/or
                    nothing down loans if need be).
                    \_ which is a large part of why there is a dearth of
                       renters right now, and why rents are so low.
        \_ So I'm not sure _exactly_ how long he's been saying this, but let's
           see: I bought in 2002.  After a few refis, my mtg payment is now
           < rent for a comparable house.  When you subtract
           mtg int deduction but add taxes but subtract tax deduction but add
           upkeep, yadda yadda it's a bit more, but not much.  But add to that
           that I have a whopping loan at 5.25%, and at the rate things are
           going I'll be beating that with casual investments in a year or two,
           and things look pretty good.
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